Reasons for Kicking/Banning .

jonski

This debate is starting up again on our forums so thought we might kick it around here aswell seen as how it is cropping up in different threads .

Reasons why you might get kicked from our server .( warnings issued first usually )

Team killing on purpose

Team killing for a vehical ( I know it's the same as the first one but it's easier to spot )

Raping inside the uncappable bases ( jet raids are allowed , chopper is contentious )

Tank or APC spawn raping ( in other words staying outside the flag capping radius and killing ppl as they spawn for extended periods of time )

C4 on Jeep ( bagdad taxi ) .this one is contentious at the moment with some being totally against it and others saying well it's done on all other servers , so it kinda depends on the admin on at the time .

And then , being a general horses arse ie: standing in front of planes or tanks cause you were too late to get to them but still want them , placing AT mines all over the shop with no regard for team movement , Stupidly getting TK'ed , ie driving over mines unpurpose , racist or abusive language , racist or abusive name or tag .

And last , but not least , talking to Viriconia in anything but a gentlemanly fashion ........................instant cd key ban btw .

So ? what else or what to drop ?

John .

Berns

So no chattin up the female soliders
In times of war they are there to provide
Wish could get my gf till start playin :rolleyes:
Should really have female characters for the ladies

jaggeh

if a spawn is cappable you can do what you like to it

raping it with an apc/tank/chopper should be allowed.

reason: spawn somewhere else and counter attack. the chopper/tank/apc are only suppressing the flag for infantry to move in, its a solid tactic and easy to counter attack if you are not a complete turnip.

Even with 3dmap on not all friendly mines will have icons or load quick enough for you to spot them, they need an icon on the minimap too so you know there is mines coming up in an area.

if someone has put mines in a stupid place they are getting punished. (example the only exit by road out of a base that spawns jeeps/apcs/tanks)

As to the baghdad taxi, its going to become more prevalent after the next patch because its going to be near impossible for spec ops to get c4 onto an enemy tank if he cant jump throw c4.

if a spawn is uncappable and its their last flag what are the other team supposed to do sit 1km away twiddling their fingers?

more than once ive been in a squad that led a breakout from a situation where the uncappable base was being raped. one time the enemy team was so busy trying to get kills that we took 3 flags before meeting resistance and even then we managed to turn the game around.

the only things i see there that should be kickable are intentional tk's and blockading jets.

TheHairyFairy

If a base is untakeable, but all other flags have been taken then I say hammer the **** out of it.

If a tank is sitting outside a flag killing players as they spawn then get organised and c4 it or at it.

As for TK'ing on purpose, if its really clear then ban, and also racial or personal insults to a player should be kicked or banned.

Fairy

jonski

Most times , if not all , when the upcapably is the last base and no attempt is being made to cap then all exits are blocked and they are pinned in . To go in there with a tank or apc just ends the game really and is all about racking up kills . For us , it is more about the overall game than the kills or the points ,,, for the most part .

jonski

jaggeh wrote:

if a spawn is cappable you can do what you like to it

raping it with an apc/tank/chopper should be allowed.

reason: spawn somewhere else and counter attack. the chopper/tank/apc are only suppressing the flag for infantry to move in, its a solid tactic and easy to counter attack if you are not a complete turnip.

Yup . this one is up for serious debate atm , It only came into being because of advice from older BF clans at the start , but it does seem to be the norm on servers to allow it , and I would be one of those that agree that it is a solid tactic to cover for infantry and believe that they should spawn somewhere else and counter ......that is the whole idea of it ,, to make them spawn somewhere else .

if someone has put mines in a stupid place they are getting punished. (example the only exit by road out of a base that spawns jeeps/apcs/tanks)

We have punishtk turned off on the server

jaggeh

with punishtk off what happens to a teamkiller?

does he get -2 for killing?

i like to be able to forgive people in cases where i know it was an accident.

Berns

think it just means the default is set to forgive if u dont hit either forgive or punish.

magick

which server do ye normally play on ?
is it still the TIG server?
because anytime i go there it seems to be empty

ghost26ie

jaggeh wrote:

with punishtk off what happens to a teamkiller?

does he get -2 for killing?

i like to be able to forgive people in cases where i know it was an accident.

yes it probably means he loses some points but not alot.

Berns

I beleive this thread is about BTC server?? :rolleyes:

d22ontour

jonski wrote:

C4 on Jeep ( bagdad taxi ) .this one is contentious at the moment with some being totally against it and others saying well it's done on all other servers , so it kinda depends on the admin on at the time .

John .

There shouldn't be a problem with c4 kamakazis i think as on some maps like karkand for example.The US has an armour advantage over MEC on small maps so taking them out in any way possible should be allowed.

Static M.e.

bagdad taxi <--- Brillant

Atlas_IRL

i started doin the bagdad taxi for a laugh the other day wasnt very productive though... is there a trick to it?

jaggeh

its all about the timing, come in at an oblique angle, go for an apc or tank thats hanging around a crate, bail out if you can but that can lead to the tank seeing you and backing off. if i know im getting more than 2 kills ill just drive straight into them, usually the damage received from the ram will kill you straight away because it sets the c4 off.

jonski

Berns wrote:

I beleive this thread is about BTC server?? :rolleyes:

Not really , it's about what people think about different server rules .

Berns wrote:

think it just means the default is set to forgive if u dont hit either forgive or punish.

Nope , I mean Punishtk is turned off , you cannot punish for a TK . You would be surprised how well this works , you don't have to worry about muppets punishing and you kick the muppets that TK .

Silverfish

jonski wrote:

And last , but not least , talking to Viriconia in anything but a gentlemanly fashion ........................instant cd key ban btw .

So ? what else or what to drop ?

John .

Did you mean 'anything but'? Cos I would swear its 'anything LIKE' :v:



People get deducted points for teamkills regardless of punish - punish just deducts a few more.

I'm pretty bitter about the Jihad buggy after last night but thats more because its in the particular server's rules not to do it, but if I'm on a server where its not specifically mentioned then I'm alright with it. ( If letting loose a stream of consecutive swear words constitutes 'okay')

The reason I play on the BTC server is because of the rules listed, I like 'em. Pretty much the same rules we ( read: I ) imposed on our server back in the day. I know certain server rules don't please everyone, so its up to the individuals who are paying for the server to impose their own ( within reason).

Originally Posted by jaggeh
if a spawn is cappable you can do what you like to it

raping it with an apc/tank/chopper should be allowed.

reason: spawn somewhere else and counter attack. the chopper/tank/apc are only suppressing the flag for infantry to move in, its a solid tactic and easy to counter attack if you are not a complete turnip.

Well, if they still have another flag and / or uncappable base then really they should spawn there instead, get vehicles / tanks / apcs and head back and defend / attack. Its up to them to choose in that instance whether they repeatedly spawn as fodder or else be productive. So I'm with Jaggeh on that point.

I found with our clan we wouldn't attack uncappable bases, instead we'd wait at nearest flags etc and wait for the hordes of enemy soldiers to try and take it, defence is important too.

jonski

Silverfish wrote:

I'm pretty bitter about the Jihad buggy after last night but thats more because its in the particular server's rules not to do it

Oh so thats what you meant on TS ? oh wait you weren't on TS were you ?

Like I said , that was one of the points being hotly debated last night , Juice said let it go and Ram wanted to enforce it

Silverfish

Well, its a tough one alright - it does waste vehicles a bit - nothing more annoying than seeing the last buggy leave the base covered in C4 and knowing you've a 250k walk ahead of you.

But it's still not an actual abuse of the game's parameters, like dolphin diving and so on. Its more of an extreme irritation. I'd be with Ram on this one though, personal preference.