Thoughts on this photo?

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ok people, not many post pics on here but i'd like to know what you think of this one. I'm saying nothing about it unless i get asked specifics.
Just go into the link below, dont worry its safe, and go into the gallery. It may take a while to load but i wanted it hi-res so people could download it and have a proper look. The pic is mine so if anyone does download it and is going to use it for anything (heaven know why you would and what for?) just check with me first.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mark.guerin/6thSite/6thSensitiveEnter/enter.html

Comments on the site too would be nice but keep in mind, its not at its permanent home and it is far from finished, i just thought if i put it up i might stop dragging my heals!

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fletch

Here's a direct link to the pic for anyone that can't be bothered navigating the site

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fletch wrote:

Here's a direct link to the pic for anyone that can't be bothered navigating the site

Now that just takes the fun out of looking at my lovely site :eek:

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fletch

dublin6th wrote:

Now that just takes the fun out of looking at my lovely site :eek:

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Sorry Anyways with regard to the pic...it does nothin for me....but then again maybe I don't see in it what others do....the top of it looks kinda smeared?

Chaos_Path

bottom middle of the pic, is that someone holding a little noose?

stevenmu

Excellent, I was looking too closely at the artifacts on the photo and not really seeing anything, and then I sat back saw it. This may sound silly but is that a dog in the bottom right with one of those cone things vets put over their heads to stop them scratching at their head ?

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Chaos_Path wrote:

bottom middle of the pic, is that someone holding a little noose?

Like i said i'm not telling anyone what it is coz i cant say what it is for definate. However what you have spotted does look like a robed figure, this was not there when the picture was taken (but you just have my word for that). If it is a figure what is straange is that it would only be about 3ft approx maybe 3.5ft yet "to me" the proportions of the figure would make me think a thin frame 5'8"ish.

Anyone else got a question or comment?

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stevenmu wrote:

This may sound silly but is that a dog in the bottom right with one of those cone things vets put over their heads to stop them scratching at their head ?

lol the amount of people who i showed this to years ago who spotted the "dog" first and nothing else, its actually a discarded unfinished carving or a "monkey totem" thingy.

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Chaos_Path

dublin6th wrote:

Like i said i'm not telling anyone what it is coz i cant say what it is for definate. However what you have spotted does look like a robed figure, this was not there when the picture was taken (but you just have my word for that). If it is a figure what is straange is that it would only be about 3ft approx maybe 3.5ft yet "to me" the proportions of the figure would make me think a thin frame 5'8"ish.
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yeah i meant to add that, if there was a figure there,it would be tiny,goin by the size of the bricked up door/window.it looks like a lil figure with rope coiled round itself though.hm. interesting.

edit - just thought,it looks like an abandoned house - it could be a statue in the back garden.explains the size n all.

stevenmu

dublin6th wrote:

lol the amount of people who i showed this to years ago who spotted the "dog" first and nothing else, its actually a discarded unfinished carving or a "monkey totem" thingy.

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Ah, I was even more sure it was something when I did a little filtering and there seems to be a rope going from the figures hand to the 'dog' which looks the same as the rope in her hand, the two of which are different (greyer, more faded) fromthe rest of the rope in the pic.

The figure seems like a little girl to me, but maybe that's just because of the way it 'popped up' and scared the s**t out of me (been playing FEAR too). This could match with your height estimates. Altough looking at it again, it looks more like a boy with a bowl haircut in a monks robe.

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yeah i thought small girl first but i cant help thinking it looks like a fully grown figure but disproportionate on the pic.

I can answer any questions people have but i'm not offering up info o this, dont want to sway people.

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(what about the site guys? nice?)

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(btw 11 is the most people i've ever seen in paranormal at one time!)

fade2black

Site looks good. However I've always been one for not opening your doors until you're ready for the public to enter. It's not finished so it's best to bulk it up a little, with some vids, articles and waht not...and then start adding to it. That way all links will be navigatable.

Still, it's a topic that I think is of interest to all so I'll be checking back.

(Items such as the legend of loftus hall and that BBC spoof from a few years back as well as more spooky pics would be good)

DonkeyStyle \o/

It's quite clearly a jawa.

looks like a guy with a noose

Ziycon

- Person middle left facing right.
- Person middle, bottom holding a rope with a noose.
- Person on the bottom to the left of the person holding the rope.
- Little kid on the bottom right facing left.
- Some being or object to the bottom left, looks like and animal.

Thats all i can make of the pic!

P.S. nice site.

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Ziycon wrote:

- Person middle left facing right.
- Person middle, bottom holding a rope with a noose.
- Person on the bottom to the left of the person holding the rope.
- Little kid on the bottom right facing left.
- Some being or object to the bottom left, looks like and animal.

Thats all i can make of the pic!

P.S. nice site.

Wow you saw alot in it! any chance you can highlight the things you saw and post the pic?

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maggz

Looking at the size of the figure made me very skeptical, but when you do a real close up, you can make it out so clearly, particularly the arm holding the noose.
I dont think the person looks that young though, I would definitly say its an adult.

Can you give us more details on where the pic was taken? History of the place etc?

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maggz wrote:

Looking at the size of the figure made me very skeptical, but when you do a real close up, you can make it out so clearly, particularly the arm holding the noose.
I dont think the person looks that young though, I would definitly say its an adult.

As i said a few posts ago, i'm of the same opinion, looks like an adult but the height is all wrong.

maggz wrote:

Can you give us more details on where the pic was taken? History of the place etc?

Picture was taken 8 years ago in the grounds of an old convent building which was being used as both a college and a hostel (filled with junkies & drunks... the hostel not the college!). It is St. Josephs Convent on Portland Row off SummerHill in Dublin.

The part of the grounds i was in was being used as a Sculpture yard and the ropes hanging up were discarded after a "spacial awareness" exercise (arty farty). I took the photo as part of a photography project titled "lines" and when i developed the negs i saw it straight away. I had the lecturer check the pic, my camera and my negs which he he saw no problem with. he said it was either there when i took it or he cant explain it, he loved the pic though and said he had seen a few like it over the years and i should look after it and the negs ... which i have.

I am not sure about the history of the building though, one person in the area told me it had been a Magdelan laundry but i have never looked into it further. There are now lovely new apartments where the building was but i havent seen them yet.

Thats as much as i know.

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Zombrex

I'm assuming the "figure" in the foreground was not actually there when the photo was taken?

Can I put on my skeptical hat? I have a few thoughts, but I can ask this be moved to the ISS if people don't want me going into them here.

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Wicknight wrote:

I'm assuming the "figure" in the foreground was not actually there when the photo was taken?

Can I put on my skeptical hat? I have a few thoughts, but I can ask this be moved to the ISS if people don't want me going into them here.

"figure" wasnt there when it was taken no. You can make comments here, i did ask for peoples thoughts but i dont want this to turn into a war zone so lets all try keep things in perspective - remember i am not claiming this is anything i have my beliefs and nothing will shake them. I just have sat on this for a long time and love the pic, i dont want to regret posting it.

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fruitcake

At first I was like "what is everyone on about I can't see a thing". But then I stepped back a bit from the screen and could see the figure, looks like a little statue with a bit of rope..

maggz

dublin6th wrote:

remember i am not claiming this is anything i have my beliefs and nothing will shake them. I just have sat on this for a long time and love the pic, i dont want to regret posting it.

It's a great pic, did you get to see any of the others that the teacher mentioned were taken in the past?

Btw what are your own thoughts on the picture?

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maggz wrote:

It's a great pic, did you get to see any of the others that the teacher mentioned were taken in the past?

No and unfortunately i havent seen him in years

maggz wrote:

Btw what are your own thoughts on the picture?

I'm of the same opinion as alot of people here, I can definately see the figure, I am confused about the size of the figure but in that building nothing surprises me much. My room in there for a while was the wash room beside the morgue. The morgue had been painted black to be used for photography but no one would us it, it had the little wooden door high on the wall that led to the street, it was a small door and was used for getting bodies into and out of the building. I'd be in that building most days from 7.30 in the morning til after 9 at night, with only maybe 5 others there early in the morning and late at night. Was a strange place but i never felt i shouldnt be there.
I was thinking of putting a flyer with my email on it under the door of every apartment thats there now asking people to mail me if they have any weird experiences ... but not sure that would go down well.

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btw I'm glad so many of you like the pic, it means alot to me.

The_B_Man

just something i noticed. if u look closely at the "figures" left arm, u can see where a string, that is clearly attached to the rest of them, goes through the body to give the impression of an arm. any thoughts? by the way, wats that big line that goes past the left side? a scratch on the photo? or did u take good care of the negs/photos?

maggz

dublin6th wrote:

My room in there for a while was the wash room beside the morgue. The morgue had been painted black to be used for photography but no one would us it, it had the little wooden door high on the wall that led to the street, it was a small door and was used for getting bodies into and out of the building. I'd be in that building most days from 7.30 in the morning til after 9 at night, with only maybe 5 others there early in the morning and late at night.

that would freek me out

dublin6th wrote:

I was thinking of putting a flyer with my email on it under the door of every apartment thats there now asking people to mail me if they have any weird experiences ... but not sure that would go down well.

Just create a new email address for it in case you get any hassle. If they're apartments they probably have a notice board that you can put a flier up on.

I know it's silly but all these old convents and hospitals and everything that they are changing into apartments I find very spooky. In Waterford they changed the old Infirmary into apartments, but due to being a protected building they couldnt knock it down or change the front of it. I just think its such a morbid place to live. Especially since I visited really sick relatives there and it was once a leprosy hospital. It would have to be haunted, wouldnt it?

Apologies, I think I have really gone off the subject here.

Gordon

The "figure" looks like the specific area is unnaturaly blurred to me. I'm not saying it's faked, I'd be very curious to see a reprint from the original negative though.

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The_B_Man wrote:

..... by the way, wats that big line that goes past the left side? a scratch on the photo? or did u take good care of the negs/photos?

no i looked after the neg fine, i just scanned that from a print of it i have, which has seen better days, i dont have a begative scanner at the moment and dont trust leaving it into somewhere to get it scanned.

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Ziycon

dublin6th wrote:

Wow you saw alot in it! any chance you can highlight the things you saw and post the pic?

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Here you go:

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BadAcidStudios

it just seems to me like a bit of a coincidence that the figure is carrying a noose in a room that is filled with strings. Also the figure does look blurry compared to the rest of the pic.
The noose is just a piece of string, one of many filling the room.
Just reminds me of looking at clouds as a kid and seeing faces and animals, etc

Ozzy

Picture was taken 8 years ago? Was it with Charlie Chaplins' camera?
What camera did you use to take the shot?


The 'head' of the figure on closer look doesn't look like a head at all (especially if you keep the lower body out of view).To me it just looks like a mesh of blurred rope over a dark background. I think the interconnecting rope, the gray scale and particularly the bluriness gives the misleading impression of a small humanoid silhouette.

I don't know why the bluriness is especially 'focused' (:)) in that area (as Gordon says, it does give a superimposed impression). However, it is not specific to the the figure area itself, it also visibly occurs to the rope at the right. I would guess that motion was the cause, the camera or some other external influence.. i.e. maybe the rope moved, or a piece fell or swung unnoticed as you were taking the photo. What was the weather like, was it windy at the time?

Any chance you have any other photos of the same angle? Nice picture though, it was interesting to look at.

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Picture was taken on a Pentax K1000 fully manual SLR taken on fast shutter speed on a tripod, so motion and camera shake is out. Like i said i had a lecturer look at the camera and negs. Of course i could have staged it, and as well I work with photoshop 8 hours a day so if i wanted to fake a photo i could no problem ... and get better results than that, simple fact is its only my word on the subject.

Thats why i havent been pushy about the pic, it is what it is, i love it and just wanted to share it. I'm not out to have it proved one way or another, not that it ever could be.

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BadAcidStudios

well as i said earlier, i think its too much of a coincidence to have pic of a ghostly image of a persong carrying a noose in a room thats already filled with pieces of string that could look like a noose, taken by a photographer who has a big interest in the paranormal who sees what he wants to see. Itys just a complicated image with lots of different patterns. You can always see something in these types of pics if you really want to. Still a haunting pic even without the blur, i mean Ghost carrying a piece of string, i mean noose :-)

The websites coming along nicely though, fair play man

SkepticOne

It is like clouds and the way people like to imagine they resemble things. We enjoy picking out patterns in randomness. The question is how do we know whether something is really there as opposed to simply a projection of our imaginations?

For example, how do we determine whether what appears to be a figure carrying a noose is really being photographed or is merely a trick of the light and the way the rope falls?

Remember the 'face on mars'. Some people were convinced that this was evidence of past civilisations on that planet.

The answer is openmindedness. This is hard for a lot of people as it involves the abandonment of their habituated predjudice but I think it can be achieved.

Huggles

I see a figure holding noose middle-bottom and to the left of that figure I see another figure lying on the floor in the fetal position then to the right a child sitting. :eek:

BadAcidStudios

oh my god

Dr_Darkness

I can see the hooded figure in the centre holding a noose and if you look closely he/she is also holding what looks like a smaller noose or something similar in his left hand which is down by his/her side.

I can make out a child as someone above me posted in the fetal position and on the top left I can also see a girl with an old fashioned dress holding her skirt facing towards the right and I can just make out what looks like a dwarf or a small animal in the left side of the pic. I can also see to the mid left of the hooded figure a face wearing a dark rimmed hat.
Then again its possible that its just our minds making up the images from all the string in the picture, who knows.

BTW, When I was looking at these pictures, I started to experience a terrible headache did anyone else get that?