online journal articles

snorlax

does anyone know how to get access to a journal article that was published a year before tcd got access (eg 1995)?

iv tried seeing if it's available to purchase online but it doesn't seem to be and i don't think it's on any of the data bases. would ucd or dcu have it?

John

If it's not on the journal's own site as being available electronically then it's unlikely to be available online. The other unis might have hard copies. Email the author and ask them for a copy, generally they will oblige.

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Search google scholar and when it returns the specific reference click on the 'other records for this paper' button at the end of the reference. There is usually a free copy of articles available somewhere on the web.

Also, check the author's own website. they may have a copy.

John's idea regarding emailing the author is a good idea aswell...

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do you want to post the specific reference and i'll give a search for it?

snorlax

emm it's Carpenter, J. (1995) Doctors and Nurses: Stereotypes and Stereotype Change in Interprofessional Education, Journal of Interprofessional Care, Vol. 9, No. 2, pp. 151-161.

it got a scale on it i want to get, ill have to keep looking to track down their email, i know the journal is british based so tcd might have it in stacks although it's not on the shelves in james.

i did a search on his name but apparently there's a film director with the same name so ill have to make the search more specific. thanks everyone anyhow.

Crash

See also Carpenter, J. (1998) Vampires for more information.

snorlax

hey it's okay i seemed to have found a website with his photo and everything by sticking bristol into the seach hopefully he'll give it to me if i email him.

http://www.bristol.ac.uk/sps/research/hsc/staff/carpenter.shtml

snorlax

japers google map is even showing me where he lives and his number http://www.google.ie/search?sa=X&oi=fwp&pb=f&q=john+carpenter+bristol

Crash

The google ones american - tisnt him.

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Cardiff Uni only has online subscription to that journal back to 2000 unfortunately. This link shows the articles which have cited Carpenter: http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&lr=&q=link:1JfMW7uX4XgJ:scholar.google.com/

Maybe some of these articles contain a reprint of the Carpenter scale?

snorlax

thanks Roundtower. the author hopefully will give it to me or at least offer to sell it. i will have to ask him to get permission for it anyhow.

John

They have that journal on electronic resource in library

Go here when you're on campus

EDIT: I misread it, I thought it said it had from 1992, it doesn't. My bad.

EDIT THE SECOND: The journal is in stacks (from 1992 onwards).

snorlax

ah cool i can order it up today. thanks John

Unshelved

Snorlax
Just curious - are you a nursing student?

I say that because this is a continuous problem with nursing students - they think that just because there isn't online access to a journal, the Library doesn't have access at all. You should get into the habit of checking the online catalogue - that will give you information about ALL the Library's subscriptions - both online and hard copy.

Curiously the Nursing faculty have one of the lowest rate of attendance at any Library user education seminars and at library tours run for them. I wonder if there's a connection there?

wheresthebeef

snorlax is not a nursing student.

I am a class rep for JF nursing, and i will tell you why nurses have poor turnout for library tours and such. because on the monday morning of freshers week, we were handed a 35 page a4 double sided timetable for michaelmas term beginning at that moment. In freshers week we had lectures from day one meaning while everyone else was running up and down a bouncing castle in front square or playing ultimate frisbee we were stuck in a lecture theatre most days till at least 4 o clock. In addition to that, in SF, JS, SS years we start back before week one. I'm sure other health sciences courses will have similar problems. We had a combined ISS/Library session by some guy who hadnt a clue what he was talking about. He couldnt even get into the online cataloque or journals himself. And it was done in a lecture setting, meaning we were just watching.

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Unshelved wrote:

Snorlax
Just curious - are you a nursing student?

I say that because this is a continuous problem with nursing students - they think that just because there isn't online access to a journal, the Library doesn't have access at all. You should get into the habit of checking the online catalogue - that will give you information about ALL the Library's subscriptions - both online and hard copy.

Curiously the Nursing faculty have one of the lowest rate of attendance at any Library user education seminars and at library tours run for them. I wonder if there's a connection there?

unshelved - thanks for your concern for nursing students. Am i correct in thinking that your previous main contribution was to this forum was to tell us you were going on strike in sympathy with the (very small) minority of ferry workers who didn't want to accept redundancy agreements? fair play for looking out for the students...

xeduCat

That's a little unfair; the same person has posted various bits of useful information in the past about how/where to get stuff in the library. A quick check on past posts shows so!

On an entirely general and anecdotal basis, though, I'd actually say that education (teaching) students are the worst when it comes to dealing with books in the library (i.e. hiding books, putting books back in the wrong place*, etc), law students are the meanest (ripping pages out), freshman BESS students are the noisiest/rudest/most likely to be eating pizza while talking on their mobiles, and nursing students ask the silliest questions. Doesn't mean I don't like any or all of those categories although is hard to be charitable when cleaning up after people who miss the multiple signs telling them NOT to put books back on the shelves.

Crash

Drama students appear also to be whores for the old hiding ****e. i chased after a book for four days - only found it an hour before i wanted to finish my essay and was too pissed off to use it.

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xeduCat wrote:

That's a little unfair; the same person has posted various bits of useful information in the past about how/where to get stuff in the library. A quick check on past posts shows so!

...oops, my bad...

xeduCat wrote:

law students are the meanest (ripping pages out),

...thanks for taking time out of your ripping to enlighten us

xeduCat

Roundtower2 wrote:

...thanks for taking time out of your ripping to enlighten us

Seriously. You have no idea how often this happens. Popular articles/cases even get photocopied back into the original book/journal/report. The troubling thing is that those-who-ripped while students are probably now arguing (or judging) in the High Court...

snorlax

im an OT student im hoping to examine and describe some of the stereotypes/ attitudes present amongst the student body(OT student's attitudes im focusing on for a smaller sample and to make it more relevant to our profession ) as regards various other members of the healthcare team (eg nurses, physios, ots etc). eg do different members view nurses as caring? doctors as arrogant/ dedicated? and is this likely to impact/influence upon their performance in a multidisciplinary team if such differences exist once they graduate? etc etc. so i have to get a whole lot of all the various standardised scales for measuring these attidues. im only just beginning it.