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are black people THE most racist people???

  • 22-01-2006 4:54am
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 244 ✭✭


    ok i know this is going to cause controversy and i am not trolling, this has been on my mnd and several of my friends minds for a long time. i have recently given in to it and realised i am racist and happy with that too.

    i wasnt always like this but with the current happenings of today i couldnt resist it anymore and gave in. you might ask ' what the fook are ya talking about' well let me explain.

    when i was younger(before so many foreigners came over) i can remember saying i wanted to marry a black woman to try and help with the whole racist issue in the world. ha ha imagine that, me a 12 year old at the time and thinking like that. well anyways. almost 10 years on and my views have totally changed. from watching movies and tv and from experiencing things first hand i can honestl;y say that i hate foreigners at this stage and mainly black people.

    and before the pc brigade jump down my pants, i am just stating MY OPINION about this with my experiences.

    from being on moore st and seeing black people deal drugs openly to being harassed in work by black people about anything white people do that doesnt suit them is racially motivated to listening to black people diss white people about race but when white people diss black people its an uproar(chris rock explains this perfectly).

    now dont get me wrong its not just black people and i know they are not all the same....

    ... russians and polish and alot of eastern europeans are on my hate list also, the ignorence i have experienced from them just makes you hate their races. once again not all are like this but a vast majority that are in our country are and take in the fact of where they are from is always on our minds in the way we may treat them.

    its difficult to explain everything properly without debating or talking in person but i hope i am getting my point accross..

    .. i was never racist before but i realised i have become racist over the past while.


    on a last note i must say that i have lots of chinese, korean, pakistani(sp?? opps) friends and also have a foreign gf, but still... i have become racist.

    what do the rest of you think


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,488 ✭✭✭Goodshape


    My goodness, you've discovered assholes. Well done.

    They come in all colours, you know.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 217 ✭✭Gaillimhtaibhse


    tails2 wrote:
    i have recently given in to it and realised i am racist and happy with that too.

    i hate foreigners at this stage and mainly black people.

    ... russians and polish and alot of eastern europeans are on my hate list also, the ignorence i have experienced from them just makes you hate their races. once again not all are like this but a vast majority that are in our country are and take in the fact of where they are from is always on our minds in the way we may treat them.

    .. i was never racist before but i realised i have become racist over the past while. i have become racist.

    My Da just loves to sing the below song, especially after he has had too many Guinnesses (and overheard comments like those above). It really goes well to swing a pint in your hand while you sing it. Please, now, everybody get your Guinness and sing along...

    (Oh, although difficult to do, it helps if you can sing with your tongue-in-your-cheek)

    A Tribute to John Foster Dullas, by the Kingstron Trio (1960's America?)

    "There's rioting in Africa
    There's strife in Iran
    There's hurricans in Florida
    And Texas needs rain.

    The whole world's festering
    With unhappy souls,
    The French hate the Germans
    The Germans hate the Poles

    Italians hate Yugoslavs,
    South Africans hate the Dutch,
    And I don't like anybody very much!

    But we can be thankful,
    Tranquil and proud,
    That man's been endowed
    With the mushroomed shaped cloud.

    And I know for certain
    That some lovely day
    Someone will touch the spark off
    And we will all be blown away!

    There's roiting in Africa,
    There's strife in Iran,
    What Nature doesn't do to us,
    Will be done by our fellow man!"


    You can remove your tongues from your cheeks, now. Everyone drink up. Cheers! From Gaillimhtaibhse, my Da, and the Kingston Trio.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 144 ✭✭Doctor Benway


    tails2 wrote:
    and before the pc brigade jump down my pants, i am just stating MY OPINION about this with my experiences.

    Well, I guess if it's just YOUR OPINION, it must be above criticism. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,872 ✭✭✭segadreamcast


    An eye for an eye will make the whole world blind.

    I'd submit that you don't hate black people - moreover, you hate black racists...therefore, the real thing you hate is not black people, but, in fact, racism. Thus, you hate yourself(as you proclaim yourself a racist), and feel a need to offload onto black people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,437 ✭✭✭Crucifix


    tails2 wrote:
    chris rock explains this perfectly
    But do you hate him too?
    This thread should probably be Godwinned and locked.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,921 ✭✭✭✭Pigman II


    I also like Chinese, Korean and Pakistani but you'll never catch me eating a black .... unless she asks nicely of course.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 463 ✭✭hawkmoon269


    Well, I guess if it's just YOUR OPINION, it must be above criticism. :rolleyes:


    Yes indeed and of course anyone that criticises the attitudes in the OP is part of the liberal PC conspiracy to oppress dissent, etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 879 ✭✭✭gibbon75


    I think blue people are the most racist....


    What kind of ignorence did you experience from us eastern-europeans?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,524 ✭✭✭✭Gordon


    tails2 wrote:
    what do the rest of you think
    I have experienced your post and I would like to state my opinion. My opinion is that you are a f*cking twat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 224 ✭✭crazymonkey


    In my experience blacks are very lazy, we work both night and days shift in my factory and during the nights they can hardly stay awake for more than five minutes, The poles and eastern europeans expect free lifts to and from work everyday and if u make the mistake of giving one of them a lift today you will have four to looking for a lift tomorrow, they steal the tea, sugar and milk from the canteen, and fight with each other over any overtime that may be going in the place,,


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 144 ✭✭Doctor Benway


    Yes indeed and of course anyone that criticises the attitudes in the OP is part of the liberal PC conspiracy to oppress dissent, etc.

    Typical Ivory Tower D4 PC Gone Mad Madness! Just because someone says they hate blacks and other foreigners, the self-appointed bien pensants commentariat automatically labels them a 'racist'.

    Whither freedom of speech, etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 879 ✭✭✭gibbon75


    In my experience blacks are very lazy, we work both night and days shift in my factory and during the nights they can hardly stay awake for more than five minutes, The poles and eastern europeans expect free lifts to and from work everyday and if u make the mistake of giving one of them a lift today you will have four to looking for a lift tomorrow, they steal the tea, sugar and milk from the canteen, and fight with each other over any overtime that may be going in the place,,


    God should really put a fence around his zoo...:mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    Right, well fair enough. You're entitled to hold your own views on the matter, whatever they may be.

    What I don't appreciate, is the rather subversive title to this thread, which seemingly has nothing to do with the subject matter; you admitting you're a racist. Perhaps I should've have presumed that the title would match the subject? Or that we'd attempt an impartial discussion, however unlikely that may be.

    Something else that annoys me is how you casually say:
    ... russians and polish and alot of eastern europeans are on my hate list also, the ignorence i have experienced from them just makes you hate their races.

    Right, so you don't even give any form of explanation on these experiences you've had? You just seem to throw it out there without even a basic example. Surely if you're going to make a statement like "Just makes you hate their races" then you should at least give some insight on why you feel this way.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    I don't think black people as a race are lazy or racist, and it's quite silly to make such a huge generalisation. I think however the black people in OUR country are quite lazy and free loading speaking generally, taking advantage of our welfare system. Now that is a huge difference, because Ireland doesn't have a mixed race culture and for the time being the Blacks in Ireland are not settled like in the UK/USA. But as I said, that's the black population in Ireland only. In general I wouldn't have any distinction between black and white people in terms of racism /whatever.

    As for the Poles, Ukrainians, and whatever, I've never encountered a lazy one. They work themselves to death. I worked with alot of them previously and they just worked, worked, worked. Very friendly too. Now every country and race in the world has its assholes. But I think as long as we are making sweeping generalizations here, the Eastern Europeans strike me as a great hard working bunch.

    And just to add, experiencing ignorance from a few people out of millions, hardly is justification to hate an entire race. Sure, if that were the case, I'm sure you've met 1000% more assholes within our own country, yet you wouldn't be naming specific counties/towns as ones full of assholes.

    Except Nigeria. I don't think anyone likes that damn country. Every other country is Africa is ashamed of it to boot. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 951 ✭✭✭Eminem


    It shouldnt matter what colour we are in my eyes ere all the same :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 184 ✭✭Brother To God


    Strange though how other African countries hate Nigerians!!
    In my work place they are always fighting,also with the poles who
    hate all the other eastern europeans,"and the Irish,they hate working!"
    its a shame so many Foreign people try to scam and act like fauds but
    you find Irish people doing the same,Put the fauds to death! How come
    Russian mafia members can freely come to Ireland and set up shop?I really
    do not understand how they do it,maybe we need a system like the states
    where Criminals will not get access to our beautiful shores!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭LundiMardi


    tails2 wrote:
    ok i know this is going to cause controversy and i am not trolling, this has been on my mnd and several of my friends minds for a long time. i have recently given in to it and realised i am racist and happy with that too.

    i wasnt always like this but with the current happenings of today i couldnt resist it anymore and gave in. you might ask ' what the fook are ya talking about' well let me explain.

    when i was younger(before so many foreigners came over) i can remember saying i wanted to marry a black woman to try and help with the whole racist issue in the world. ha ha imagine that, me a 12 year old at the time and thinking like that. well anyways. almost 10 years on and my views have totally changed. from watching movies and tv and from experiencing things first hand i can honestl;y say that i hate foreigners at this stage and mainly black people.

    and before the pc brigade jump down my pants, i am just stating MY OPINION about this with my experiences.

    from being on moore st and seeing black people deal drugs openly to being harassed in work by black people about anything white people do that doesnt suit them is racially motivated to listening to black people diss white people about race but when white people diss black people its an uproar(chris rock explains this perfectly).

    now dont get me wrong its not just black people and i know they are not all the same....

    ... russians and polish and alot of eastern europeans are on my hate list also, the ignorence i have experienced from them just makes you hate their races. once again not all are like this but a vast majority that are in our country are and take in the fact of where they are from is always on our minds in the way we may treat them.

    its difficult to explain everything properly without debating or talking in person but i hope i am getting my point accross..

    .. i was never racist before but i realised i have become racist over the past while.


    on a last note i must say that i have lots of chinese, korean, pakistani(sp?? opps) friends and also have a foreign gf, but still... i have become racist.

    what do the rest of you think
    fair enough, you're entitled to your opinion.. i respect that.. However it's a very closed minded opinion... you're judging races based on your experiences with a few people.. does that not seem a bit stupid?

    I ****in hate the guy in my local chipper, he's a retard, and has the worst phone manner, and is a tight arse when it comes to portion size.. he's italian or something, but i only hate him.. not italians... see where i'm going here?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    Except Nigeria. I don't think anyone likes that damn country. Every other country is Africa is ashamed of it to boot. :D
    Strange though how other African countries hate Nigerians!!

    That's true. My family once had a guy from Zimbabwe staying with us, and he warned us never let anyone from Nigeria into the house. Unfortunately, we didn't listen to his advice, had some Nigerians stay here, and many items around the house either ended up 'missing', or broken.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,081 ✭✭✭su_dios


    Goodshape wrote:
    My goodness, you've discovered assholes. Well done.

    They come in all colours, you know.

    Best post ever!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭LundiMardi


    That's true. My family once had a guy from Zimbabwe staying with us, and he warned us never let anyone from Nigeria into the house. Unfortunately, we didn't listen to his advice, had some Nigerians stay here, and many items around the house either ended up 'missing', or broken.
    they invented gayness.... no wait..er


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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 9,586 Mod ✭✭✭✭BossArky


    tails2 wrote:
    what do the rest of you think

    You are an idiot.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,921 ✭✭✭✭Pigman II


    That's true. My family once had a guy from Zimbabwe staying with us, and he warned us never let anyone from Nigeria into the house. Unfortunately, we didn't listen to his advice, had some Nigerians stay here, and many items around the house either ended up 'missing', or broken.

    Not defending it but I think robbing is just part of their culture.

    I know an accountant who worked out there for years in the construction trade and the 1st Monday after some particular project had been completed he came into work only to see that all the dump trucks and most of equipment was gone. Another fella explained to him that the workers (who were now finished up) just nicked most of it over the w/e and drove off with it. More surprising was that this unashamed pilferage had already been predicted and factored into the construction budget. :) He wasn't joking either btw just case you think the guy was taking the p.

    They probably look at it as entrepreneurialism or somesuch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 224 ✭✭crazymonkey


    Goodshape wrote:
    My goodness, you've discovered assholes. Well done.

    They come in all colours, you know.

    True, its unfair to judge a whole nation by a few examples we've experienced in Ireland,, I have alot of contact with eastern europeans in my personally life as i a dating one, they are mostly sound enough, there is alot of asshole irish out there too, for example that guy in Cavan they killed a 21yr girl on friday night, what the fcuk is that about,,


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    Pigman II wrote:
    after some particular project had been completed he came into work only to see that all the dump trucks and most of equipment was gone. Another fella explained to him that the workers (who were now finished up) just nicked most of it over the w/e and drove off with it. More surprising was that this unashamed pilferage had already been predicted and factored into the construction budget. :)

    Lmao. Thats hilarious. Unfortunate that it happens but hilarious nonetheless.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,186 ✭✭✭✭Sangre


    Typical Ivory Tower D4 PC Gone Mad Madness! Just because someone says they hate blacks and other foreigners, the self-appointed bien pensants commentariat automatically labels them a 'racist'.

    Whither freedom of speech, etc.
    I really don't know what to make of this post.
    Surely thats joke...right?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,989 ✭✭✭✭Giblet


    Typical Ivory Tower D4 PC Gone Mad Madness! Just because someone says they hate blacks and other foreigners, the self-appointed bien pensants commentariat automatically labels them a 'racist'.

    Whither freedom of speech, etc.

    You are an idiot and you probably didn't read the original post where he said "I AM A RACIST!"

    So what now chief?

    OP what the hell does the thread title have to do with the thread content?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 688 ✭✭✭skye


    I agree with other posters - you shouldn't judge an entire race on your experience with one or two. I have worked with Eastern Europeans and they are the hardest working people I have ever encountered. You should take people as individuals and not "paint them all with the one brush".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    Hmm... I for one took Doctor Benway's post as humour.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,240 ✭✭✭Endurance Man


    Sigh, your a silly person tails. I could no jump into a rant about the few irish people iv met who annoy the **** out of me, are lazy ect ect.......... perhaps then you will see what a complete idiot you sound like. Labeling an entire race according to your few dealings with them is utterly stupid!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,281 ✭✭✭RobertFoster


    Goodshape wrote:
    They come in all colours, you know.
    Gotta collect them all!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 363 ✭✭thafitz


    not a racist myself and ive no problem with black people but it does seem that the nigerians here are mostly lazy, loud and ignorant. seems like they have no basic manners like saying excuse me when they push past you. anyone else notice how the nigerians are always skipping queues whether its waiting for a bus or in a shop? a quick shot of deodourant wouldnt go astray either.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 165 ✭✭Mina Loy


    tails2 wrote:
    ok i know this is going to cause controversy and i am not trolling, this has been on my mnd and several of my friends minds for a long time. i have recently given in to it and realised i am racist and happy with that too.

    i wasnt always like this but with the current happenings of today i couldnt resist it anymore and gave in. you might ask ' what the fook are ya talking about' well let me explain.

    when i was younger(before so many foreigners came over) i can remember saying i wanted to marry a black woman to try and help with the whole racist issue in the world. ha ha imagine that, me a 12 year old at the time and thinking like that. well anyways. almost 10 years on and my views have totally changed. from watching movies and tv and from experiencing things first hand i can honestl;y say that i hate foreigners at this stage and mainly black people.

    and before the pc brigade jump down my pants, i am just stating MY OPINION about this with my experiences.

    from being on moore st and seeing black people deal drugs openly to being harassed in work by black people about anything white people do that doesnt suit them is racially motivated to listening to black people diss white people about race but when white people diss black people its an uproar(chris rock explains this perfectly).

    now dont get me wrong its not just black people and i know they are not all the same....

    ... russians and polish and alot of eastern europeans are on my hate list also, the ignorence i have experienced from them just makes you hate their races. once again not all are like this but a vast majority that are in our country are and take in the fact of where they are from is always on our minds in the way we may treat them.

    its difficult to explain everything properly without debating or talking in person but i hope i am getting my point accross..

    .. i was never racist before but i realised i have become racist over the past while.


    on a last note i must say that i have lots of chinese, korean, pakistani(sp?? opps) friends and also have a foreign gf, but still... i have become racist.

    what do the rest of you think


    Aw aren't you charming? SO WHAT if you've seen black people dealing drugs on moore st! Woop de ****ing doo I've probably seen irish knackers doing that **** and WORSE ABOUT 1000 TIMES MORE. God get your head out of your ass and get a life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,872 ✭✭✭segadreamcast


    thafitz wrote:
    not a racist myself and ive no problem with black people but

    Classic mistake. The 'but'. Ever noticed how I could replace the word 'nigerians' in your post with any other race, and it'd generally ring true?

    There are Germans who smell.
    There are Irish who can't queue.
    There are Mexicans, Japanese, Indians and French who are loud/ignorant/whatever.

    What does this illustrate? There are people and, thus, from those people, there are assholes. No characteristic is specific to one race - and, inversely, no race lends itself to any single defining characteristic: this is the flaw in racist logic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,225 ✭✭✭JackKelly


    This is depressing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 363 ✭✭thafitz


    NoelRock wrote:
    Classic mistake.

    There are people and, thus, from those people, there are assholes. No characteristic is specific to one race - and, inversely, no race lends itself to any single defining characteristic: this is the flaw in racist logic.


    if you read my post right you would see that im NOT talking about black people as a race, just nigerians (who happen to not make up the entire black race). i know black people from different countries and get along fine with them and they themselves have told me they feel the same about nigerians. also im not talking about a once off incident these are incidents that have being consistently happening in the last couple of years through working with them and meeting them out and about.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 144 ✭✭Doctor Benway


    Sangre wrote:
    I really don't know what to make of this post.
    Surely thats joke...right?

    *sigh*

    Yes, it's a joke.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 144 ✭✭Doctor Benway


    thafitz wrote:
    if you read my post right you would see that im NOT talking about black people as a race, just nigerians (who happen to not make up the entire black race). i know black people from different countries and get along fine with them and they themselves have told me they feel the same about nigerians. also im not talking about a once off incident these are incidents that have being consistently happening in the last couple of years through working with them and meeting them out and about.

    How do you tell which black people are Nigerian?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,989 ✭✭✭✭Giblet


    Because they're the ones robbing him obviously!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 144 ✭✭Doctor Benway


    Giblet wrote:
    Because they're the ones robbing him obviously!


    Probably. Either than or they're jumping ahead of him in the bus queue, saying "Single to Abuja, please".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,743 ✭✭✭StupidLikeAFox


    ....while leaving their buggy at the stop


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭C_Breeze


    i hate the jew becuase they take everybody money and they dont give it back to you


    i also hate the Op , if i find out who he is ill pound his head in good!


    i also hate gingers while we're on the subject


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,049 ✭✭✭✭murphaph


    To the OP, I don't think you worded your post very well tbh but I know where you're coming from on this. I have plenty of first hand experience with probably every race represented in Ireland. I Have to agree with some of the others that it's a bad idea to generalise on race, first off you can make cultural generalisations which can be remarkably accurate, unsurprisingly when it's the 'culture' of the people of x to to y, etc. but as noted earlier, a black guy born and bred in Manchester knows as much about west African culture as you or I. I work with two engish black people and they are culturally identical to the english white people I work with, unsurprisingly. They are polite, courteous, well english people!

    I find certain west African nationals, particularly Nigerians to have a certain, shall we say, attitude problem toward virtually everybody else, including other non-Nigerian Africans. Then again, I know one Nigerian guy who is cool as a cucumber and very easy to get on with., so generalistions aren't at all foolproof.

    I've lost count of the number of times I've witnessed Nigerians 'playing the race card' when challenged about poor work, or anything at all in fact. I'm sick to death of that which is very racist and really does my head in.

    I'll give everyone the time of day until they give me reason not to, then you can forget about it. :)

    To the people who automatically slighted the OP-get a grip, life isn't all 'peace man' and sh!t like that. Real issues of cultural differences causing friction are happening every day in ireland and we are NOT all the same. We're different on an individual and cultural level from each other.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    How do you tell which black people are Nigerian?

    I imagine the same way you might tell how someone would be German, rather than Irish?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 144 ✭✭Doctor Benway


    I imagine the same way you might tell how someone would be German, rather than Irish?

    Language and/or accent? Perhaps thafitz might share his knowledge of various African dialects with us, then, so that we can all tell the difference.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    tails2 wrote:
    ok i know this is going to cause controversy and i am not trolling

    Everytime I see this in a sentence I know its a troll, and you all fell for it. Shame on you all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,240 ✭✭✭Endurance Man


    gandalf wrote:
    Everytime I see this in a sentence I know its a troll, and you all fell for it. Shame on you all.

    I actually hope he is a troll, no one is this idiotic unless they're doing it to piss people off.
    Close this thread and put it out of its misery.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,921 ✭✭✭✭Pigman II


    gandalf wrote:
    Everytime I see this in a sentence I know its a troll, and you all fell for it. Shame on you all.

    In fairness you just assume it's a troll. Any troll worth his salt wouldn't say 'i am not trolling'. I think he's just a slightly confused guy with a really stupid point of view that even he recognises as such.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    Well given the fact the OP hasn't replied after 3 pages kinda gives it away.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    maybe a black man broke his fingers


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,921 ✭✭✭✭Pigman II


    He could still type with his nose. No I'm sure the black man just stole his computer.


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