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Unwanted Entities visit you in bed?The Incubus & Succubus!

  • 21-01-2006 6:14pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 403 ✭✭


    There are many reports of people being visited at night by what seem too be "spirit entities" who subject them to a wide range of physical and sexual experiences, ranging from foot massages to full sexual intercourse. This is believed to be an entity which appears in female form (Succubus) or male (Incubus). Anyone experienced or heard of this? :eek:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    No, have you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,246 ✭✭✭✭Riamfada


    In medieval legend, a succubus (plural succubi; from Latin succubare, "to lie under") is a female demon which seduces men (especially monks) in dreams to have sexual intercourse. They draw energy from the men to sustain themselves, often until the point of exhaustion or death. From mythology and fantasy, Lilith and the Lilin (Jewish), Lilitu (Sumerian) and Rusalka (Slavic) were succubi.

    According to the Malleus Maleficarum, or "Witches' Hammer", succubi would collect semen from the men they slept with, which incubi would then use to impregnate women. Children so begotten were supposed to be more susceptible to the influence of demons.

    Honoré de Balzac wrote a short story The Succubus concerning a 1271 trial of a she-devil succubus in the guise of a woman, who amongst other things could use her hair to entangle victims.

    From the 16th century, the carving of a succubus on the outside of an inn indicated that the establishment also operated as a brothel.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,633 ✭✭✭stormkeeper


    I've heard of it, but never experienced it. If I recall, the succubi would be very very attractive or something like that (I'm sure the incubi would be too). I'm kind of treading on slightly unstable ground here, because at the moment, I know very little about them...

    I can't for the life of me remember where I read about them, mind... I tend to pick up random bits of information without realising it... something I "know"* stuff without experiencing it before, which is quite strange.

    *A medium told me this a year or two ago now...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 403 ✭✭mysteria


    Grimes, the most interesting thing to me about incubi and succubi is the fact that they APPEAR gender-specific but as they are an Energy form they are asexual and assume whichever form they want. "Essentially the incubus is a lewd demon or goblin which seeks sexual intercourse with women ...the corresponding devil which appears to man is the succubus" (Dictionary of Witchcraft & Demonology). Guazzo's (1608) Compendium Maleficarum stated: "The demon can assume either a male or female shape; sometimes he appears as a full-grown man, sometimes as a satyr.( half-man half-goat)" St. Augustine firmly believed that demons abducted people and forced sexual relations on them: "Demons have often injured women, desiring and acting carnally with them" he wrote. Virtually no one disputed the existence of these sex-seeking demons. Martin Del Rio (1599) wrote of the reality of incubus in the Disquisitionum Magicarum, "...to disagree (with their existence) is only obstinacy and foolhardiness; for it is the universal opinion of the fathers, theologians, and writers on philosophy, the truth of which is generally acknowledged by all ages and peoples." Peter Binsfeld's De Confessione Maleficarum (1589) stated, "(The incubus) is an indisputable truth which is not only proved most certain by experience, but also is confirmed by history.."
    There is also a movie called "Incubus" made about 20 years ago based on a genuine story.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    I ahve read about this over the years alot, similar entities seem to pop up in almost every corner of the world in different cultures ... strangely one has never manged to find me! (if you're out there ... keep looking!)

    I cant wait to see where this leads! Sapien .. ur thoughts please?

    6th
    btw Nice one Mysteria, what a topic!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 403 ✭✭mysteria


    Zillah wrote:
    No, have you?
    No such luck but while there's life there's hope :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    Mysteria, sacredtexts.com, or do you actually have such an interesting library?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 503 ✭✭✭OMcGovern


    Grimes wrote:
    In medieval legend, a succubus (plural succubi; from Latin succubare, "to lie under") is a female demon which seduces men (especially monks) in dreams to have sexual intercourse.

    I think the monk reference says it all.
    Those crazy backward folk, of years gone by, didn't understand about the subconscious, and sex dreams.
    The monks, repressed, and ashamed, blamed it on something external.... a daemon.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 403 ✭✭mysteria


    Zillah wrote:
    Mysteria, sacredtexts.com, or do you actually have such an interesting library?

    Remember my "Imaginary institute of parapsychology & metaphysics" Zillah?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    OMcGovern wrote:
    I think the monk reference says it all.
    Those crazy backward folk, of years gone by, didn't understand about the subconscious, and sex dreams.
    The monks, repressed, and ashamed, blamed it on something external.... a daemon.

    Although thats pretty logical, I suspect its not going to go down well, and admittedly, even if there are reasons that monks could imagine such things, it doesn't neccessarily mean that they did.
    Remember my "Imaginary institute of parapsychology & metaphysics" Zillah?

    I never called it imaginary. I suggested that it seemed imaginry given that you declined to share any details of its existence. And unless you now wish to share such details, I suggest we don't discuss it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 403 ✭✭mysteria


    Yeah we all know about the sexual repression element but I get reports from people who tell me this is happening to them as recently as 3 weeks ago.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 403 ✭✭mysteria


    check unison for an article in the Independent about it a few years ago Zillah.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    Their archives don't appear to have a search function...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 403 ✭✭mysteria


    You are here: Home > News > Irish Independent > Features Today's Date: Sat January 21st 06

    Issue Date Mon, Jul 12 04
    Irish Independent
    National News.

    So we really do have a sixth sense.


    One of Europe's most eminent universities has produced compelling evidence that we all have psychic powers - but, says Lara Bradley, most of us don't use them

    We have all experienced the peculiar feeling that someone we can't see is staring at us, only to turn around and find our suspicions well founded.

    And who hasn't taken an instant dislike to a stranger for no obvious reason or spent a restless night in a house that just seemed 'creepy'?

    None of these irrational sensations makes sense in the cold light of day and science has always taught us such feelings can be explained as coincidence or superstitious nonsense - until now.

    Finally, there is evidence other than anecdotal that human beings have skills of perception beyond the accepted five senses. One of Europe's most eminent universities has produced compelling proof that human beings do have a sixth sense.

    Psychologists at Freiburg University - Germany's equivalent of Trinity College - conducted an experiment called 'remote staring'. In each experiment a volunteer was connected to electrodes that measured the electrical activity of his skin. Dr Stefan Schmidt and his team put a second volunteer in a different room, which was lead-lined, and told him to watch the first volunteer on closed-circuit TV.

    Although the volunteers had no idea if or when they were being observed, the scientists discovered that their skin 'prickled' when they were being watched. It was a seemingly inexplicable reaction but it occurred time and time again with hundreds of different volunteers.

    The researchers went further and tested the volunteers' ability to affect the feelings of another person through the power of thought alone. This time the person doing the staring was told to try to make the other person feel either uncomfortable or relaxed.

    In this experiment Dr Schmidt recorded "small but significant effects", indicating that it was possible to affect how another person felt without having any physical interaction with him.

    Unexplained feelings can be unsettling but they can also be empowering. Anyone who has faith in the power of prayer would say it is possible to concentrate mental energies on the recovery of a loved one and have some positive effect, even from a distance. Sceptics say this phenomenon is simply wishful thinking.

    But now that Dr Schmidt has proved it is possible to occasionally affect others remotely, using just the power of thought, such beliefs can no longer be rubbished as pure coincidence.

    The paranormal, by its very nature, has never lent itself to serious scientific study. It elicits powerful emotions in both believers and sceptics. You either believe or you don't and one side is seldom persuaded by the other's argument, even after years of each trying to prove the other wrong.

    But things could be starting to change now that a respected seat of learning has put its reputation behind the findings of these radical experiments.

    Dr Schmidt is no fly-by-night. He carried out each experiment more than 1,000 times on different volunteers and published his findings in the respected and authoritative British Journal of Psychology.

    The research is welcomed by the founder of the Irish Institute of Parapsychology and Metaphysics, Sandra Ramdhanie, who believes everyone is telepathic. She says: "There are many different types of psychic ability but people tend to lump them all together.

    "Telepathy is the most common talent - everyone has it. Every mother knows what it's like to sense a problem with her child and to discover that the child has fallen and been hurt. And we have all had the experience of not having seen someone for ages, only to have them pop into our head shortly before we unexpectedly bump into them."

    Ms Ramdhanie, who has a Sunday newspaper column and presents a late-night radio show, Psychic Sandra, urges us all to test our telepathic powers with a simple experiment of our own. "The next time you are bored on the Dart or sitting in the office, try concentrating on staring at the back of someone's head. You will see how quickly you have an effect," she says. "They may spin around to look at you or they may just twiddle with their ear but they will react in some way."

    Ms Ramdhanie believes that Dr Schmidt's experiments prove that telepathy is a real and common ability, which is most obviously manifested in the intuition of a good doctor or the gut feeling of the best detectives.

    She says: "It runs through every stratum of society. To me, there is no para-normal, it is all normal. I have never been on a crusade to say 'look at what I can do'. My mission is to tell people to look at what they can do.

    "The instinct is in every single human being but in a lot of people the conscious mind rejects it. It is a very natural talent, which is stronger in some than in others, just as some people are better at playing a musical instrument or painting a picture."

    In the past 10 years there have been 29 serious scientific studies of parapsychology internationally and two-thirds of these have found positive evidence of telepathy.

    To psychics like Ms Ramdhanie, these scientific discoveries are no surprise. She believes she has been using the power of positive thought to influence healing for many years. "I really believe visualisation is a powerful tool. If you can block out your ego and the mental noise in your head, you can concentrate on helping good things to happen," she says.

    "Bending spoons is just a trick, which is of no benefit to anyone except the person doing it. Why bother with that when you can use your talent to heal?

    "A lot of people believe in the power of prayer and that is similar to psychic healing, which is just unconditional love and really, really wanting something good for someone else."

    Ms Ramdhanie believes she is one of the few who has access to another dimension inhabited by spirits.

    While she fervently believes in telepathy, she does not agree that it is a sixth sense. "There is no sixth sense. Telepathy comes from having your five senses highly developed and being able to relax and balance mind, body and spirit," she says.

    Scientists have long battled to dismiss theorists who argue that Stone Age man had an innate ability to sense danger, even when he could not see, hear or touch it.

    While this sixth sense may have been of great benefit in the wilds, it sits somewhat less comfortably in modern society. Now the only real danger for those who admit they feel they are being followed or threatened by something no one else can see is the likelihood of being branded mad or paranoid by those around them.

    Despite this new scientific evidence, even Ms Ramdhanie is sceptical about our ability to influence how others feel merely by thinking about them. "It is very impressive to get these results in a laboratory but real life is not so clear-cut. Telepathy is weak and inconsistent unless it is properly channelled," she says.

    Like petrol in a car, it runs out so you should save it up for when you really need it. "We can't always influence other people telepathically as much as we would like - otherwise boyfriends would always call when we want them to and they would buy flowers a lot more often."


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,689 Mod ✭✭✭✭stevenmu


    I've often wondered if incubi/succubi are in some way related to sleep paralysis, during which people often sense, feel or even see a presence in the room with them. Altough from my own experience, and the way others have described theirs, sex would be the last thing on someones mind at the time. From reading the forums at mysticweb.org, many people describe encountering negative entities which feed on peoples fear, particularly when beginning the process of learning astral projection. These seem to equate with the presences sensed during sleep paralysis and the general concept seems so similar to the idea of an incubus/succubus, that I can't help thinking that they're both variations of the same phenomenon.

    From my understanding of negative entities, they're generally considered to be an 'internal' entity created by the person experiencing it. When connected to the astral plane what you see can be heavily influenced by your own mind, and so if you feel any fear, your own imagination can 'create' a negative entity. This negative entity of course causes you to be come more afraid, causing the entity to become bigger/darker/scaryer etc. almost like a type of feedback loop.

    It seems quite possible that a similar situation could occur in the case of an incubus/succubus. If someone is fully or possibly only half asleep and still connected to the astral* then I think it's possible that their sexual desires could cause their imagination to create a projection of what would be their ideal woman/man, even the beginning of this projection would lead to a heightening of the persons state of arousal, strenghtening the projection. I know sex is often one of the first things I'd think about as I wake up, and I don't think I'm particularly obsessed with it, so it seems probable to me that others do too, perhaps even to the point where it's influencing them strongly before they wake.



    *Many people believe that our conciousness visits the astral plane every time we dream but that our imagination or subconcious mind clouds what we see there, giving us what we recognise as dreams. Through training our minds to become lucid during dreaming and to focus we can rid ourselves of the imagery projected by our own minds. This is the basis for astral projection.


    edit: great article mysteria.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    Thanks for the article. A very interesting read and I'll certainly investigate Mr.Schmidt's research further. But, for one, it'd probably be better if you just gave us the link. The line "The research is welcomed by the founder of the Irish Institute of Parapsychology and Metaphysics, Sandra Ramdhanie" is the only reference to this institute.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 403 ✭✭mysteria


    Yes I believe the majority of cases I've been involved with stem from a type of sleep paralysis, in some cases people with the ability to partially astrally project end up on the "lower astral" planes where mischievous (rather than evil) enitities exist, and of course we can produce negative thought-forms as you say stevenmu, but there are always the few intriguing apparently inexplicable ones.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 403 ✭✭mysteria


    Zillah wrote:
    Thanks for the article. A very interesting read and I'll certainly investigate Mr.Schmidt's research further. But, for one, it'd probably be better if you just gave us the link. The line "The research is welcomed by the founder of the Irish Institute of Parapsychology and Metaphysics, Sandra Ramdhanie" is the only reference to this institute.
    I have deliberately kept the institute very low-key as in the early 80's ignorance was rife ( well...actually...it still is in some quarters) but obviously even the Indo wouldn't contact and quote a non-existent Institute.I know this is off the point, but I resent the idea that I would have to lie as my profile is very public ( a fact I wanted to keep private at first). So I have no further comment on the matter. And by the way, most of my knowledge is in my head, not my library. Everything I say you appear to challenge or disbelieve me Zillah,why don't you just ignore my posts? Relax and be happy! P.S. It's "Dr. Schmidt", not Mr.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    You raised the issue not me.

    You're the one trying to convince me and I remain unconvinced.

    I won't pretend to believe you. If you don't like that then either ignore the issue or say something convincing. Either way I won't let you try and paint me the bad guy.
    P.S. It's "Dr. Schmidt", not Mr.

    Yes I realised that. Im emailing him now in the hopes that he can direct me towards where I could fine more info on his research, googling seems to be unsuccessful.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 403 ✭✭mysteria


    It's all to do with perspective(and age, education and experience).I'm sure you'll find Dr. Schmidt is fictitious too. Convince you? That's not my agenda. I assume that many people on this board know a lot about various aspects of the paranormal, and are interested in learning, and helping others learn from discussing these topics with like-minded individuals. Is that the purpose of the paranormal discussion board, to "convince" people?Right now I'm just interested in hearing people's theories and/or experiences re Incubi and Succubi.And Zillah I don't see you as the "bad guy". I actually think you're very clever and quick-witted with a questioning mind, I'd enjoy dialogue with you if it did'nt always seem so negative.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,689 Mod ✭✭✭✭stevenmu


    Zillah wrote:
    Yes I realised that. Im emailing him now in the hopes that he can direct me towards where I could fine more info on his research, googling seems to be unsuccessful.
    Their homepage seems to be at http://www.igpp.de/english/welcome.htm, which largely seems to be under construction, but there is some interesting things at a quick glance, their biennial reports could be worth downloading. Googling "Freiburg University remote staring" turned up a load of mentions too, you might have some luck with some of them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    I'd enjoy dialogue with you if it did'nt always seem so negative

    And I'd enjoy dialogue with you if you stopped expecting me to see you as the director of a parapsychology institute while refusing to say anything about this institute.

    And I didn't say that the purpose of the board was to convince people, but you were trying anyway.
    stevenmu wrote:
    Their homepage seems to be at http://www.igpp.de/english/welcome.htm, which largely seems to be under construction, but there is some interesting things at a quick glance, their biennial reports could be worth downloading. Googling "Freiburg University remote staring" turned up a load of mentions too, you might have some luck with some of them.

    Cool.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 403 ✭✭mysteria


    Zillah try checking out the Koestler Parapsychology Institute at Edinburgh University on Google as well as the link stevenmu gave you. You'll find very little info on both. And just talk to me as Sandra who writes about the paranormal and loves my work, not the founder of anything.P.S. Ask anything you want about the Institute, no-one's asked me anything except to prove it existed. I don't expect anything of anyone, ok?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 403 ✭✭mysteria


    That's a very psychic symptom you're describing kennett, the feeling of "just knowing" without being sure how or why.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,689 Mod ✭✭✭✭stevenmu


    yeah I'd been looking at the Koestler site earlier trying to find some other research they'd been doing but I can't seem to find it, anyway I spotted they have some stuff on remote staring up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,633 ✭✭✭stormkeeper


    mysteria wrote:
    That's a very psychic symptom you're describing kennett, the feeling of "just knowing" without being sure how or why.

    I had a feeling it was, but I wasn't about to declare it as such myself. I haven't really anyone to properly consult with about all the psychic stuff, so I'm pretty conservative about mentioning anything like it... it's taken me a long time (and having at least 7 or so people with psychic abilities tell me so!) to accept that I'm psychic myself, though I am, admittedly, "undisciplined" with it, meaning it happens at random times. I was thinking of learning how to control my abilities, so they don't cause any problems as it were, or at least just to control it so it's not so random... if that makes sense at all?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,633 ✭✭✭stormkeeper


    stevenmu wrote:
    yeah I'd been looking at the Koestler site earlier trying to find some other research they'd been doing but I can't seem to find it, anyway I spotted they have some stuff on remote staring up.

    I think I've been on that site before, messing with their Zener Card test thing... can't remember the results, mind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    ask anything you want about the Institute

    Ok...

    How many people are employed by this institute?
    Where does it receive its funding?
    What research has this institute carried out?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,552 ✭✭✭✭GuanYin


    Zillah - one more thread where you drag it off topic and I'll ban.

    If you're that interested, start a new thread or PM her.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,718 ✭✭✭SkepticOne


    stevenmu wrote:
    I've often wondered if incubi/succubi are in some way related to sleep paralysis, during which people often sense, feel or even see a presence in the room with them. Altough from my own experience, and the way others have described theirs, sex would be the last thing on someones mind at the time. From reading the forums at mysticweb.org, many people describe encountering negative entities which feed on peoples fear, particularly when beginning the process of learning astral projection. These seem to equate with the presences sensed during sleep paralysis and the general concept seems so similar to the idea of an incubus/succubus, that I can't help thinking that they're both variations of the same phenomenon.

    From my understanding of negative entities, they're generally considered to be an 'internal' entity created by the person experiencing it. When connected to the astral plane what you see can be heavily influenced by your own mind, and so if you feel any fear, your own imagination can 'create' a negative entity. This negative entity of course causes you to be come more afraid, causing the entity to become bigger/darker/scaryer etc. almost like a type of feedback loop.

    It seems quite possible that a similar situation could occur in the case of an incubus/succubus. If someone is fully or possibly only half asleep and still connected to the astral* then I think it's possible that their sexual desires could cause their imagination to create a projection of what would be their ideal woman/man, even the beginning of this projection would lead to a heightening of the persons state of arousal, strenghtening the projection. I know sex is often one of the first things I'd think about as I wake up, and I don't think I'm particularly obsessed with it, so it seems probable to me that others do too, perhaps even to the point where it's influencing them strongly before they wake.
    I would broadly agree with this interpretation. I'm not sure about the 'astral plane' stuff, but generally the idea that we create these 'entities' in our own minds I would go along with.

    I think both sleep paralysis (often incorporated into folklore as the 'grey ghost' or some other entity) and incubi/succubi are the dreamer's interpretation of physiological states. We try to invent circumstances in our dreams to explain what is going on outside the dreams.

    The astral plane stuff makes a certain amount of sense if you believe that dreams are really a form of travel.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 403 ✭✭mysteria


    I know someone who has her feet massaged while fully awake, watching the TV. You can actually see movements like invisible hands moving her socks. She finds it comforting, it does'nt frighten her. And even I can't find a logical, scientific or medical explanation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,552 ✭✭✭✭GuanYin


    mysteria wrote:
    I know someone who has her feet massaged while fully awake, watching the TV. You can actually see movements like invisible hands moving her socks. She finds it comforting, it does'nt frighten her. And even I can't find a logical, scientific or medical explanation.

    Reminds me of the book "The Entity", except that involved the bangkok massage parlour version of foot massage - wasn't that based on a true story?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    There was also a film, and it did indeed claim to be based on a true story.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 403 ✭✭mysteria


    psi wrote:
    Reminds me of the book "The Entity", except that involved the bangkok massage parlour version of foot massage - wasn't that based on a true story?
    Sorry never had (or did) bangkok foot massage, or read the book, but I think the movie "Incubus" may have been taken from that book. Was it the story of a cleric who abused his niece (I think) when she was alive, and then continued after he died?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 403 ✭✭mysteria


    The film was based on a true story, but the ending was hilarious, pure hollywood, not part of the original story. But it's very common for abuse victims to have this kind of experience years afterwards, their minds replaying the torment, nothing paranormal. The time I saw it happen it was really freaky.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,552 ✭✭✭✭GuanYin


    mysteria wrote:
    Was it the story of a cleric who abused his niece (I think) when she was alive, and then continued after he died?

    No, it was alot nastier than that.

    Links to the background of the alleged true story here and here.

    Movie link here and book here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 403 ✭✭mysteria


    Wow thanks for that Psi, totally different case but similar in some respects. I have an old video of "Incubus", haven't watched it in years, so definitely not the same case.Great info


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,552 ✭✭✭✭GuanYin


    I found it interesting (and this relate sto the orb thread in some ways) thatthe arc light and orb photos were published in a reputable photography magazine.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 403 ✭✭mysteria


    yes it's great in a way to have a bit of open-mindedness, in another way it's sad for me. To have to be grateful for the small amount of reputable publicity for a field that for many already is a science. I'm going to get that book by the way so thanks again Psi.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    Oh bring this thread up again just so i can pop in this story i found (seems the most fitting place for it):

    Man seeks help to banish sex ghost
    Published: Sunday, 20 November, 2005, 09:49 AM Doha Time

    KUALA LUMPUR: A Malaysian man sought help from a medium to rid him of a female ghost whom he said had demanded sex from him every night for the past 16 years, a report said yesterday.
    The 34-year old man, known only as Kelvin, said that the nightmare started when he was only 18.
    “Bad luck had followed me ever since,” he was quoted as saying by the Mandarin-language China Press national daily.
    “I couldn’t get married although I had five girlfriends, and I have been fired from my job 10 times because I could not get enough sleep and was too tired to concentrate on my work,” he said.
    The medium from whom he sought help said the woman had committed suicide from a failed relationship 30 years ago.
    To banish the sex-hungry ghost, a netherworld wedding was held and three paper dolls - representing a groom, a driver and a maid - were burnt to keep the ghost company.–dpa


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 292 ✭✭Pink Bunny


    Grimes wrote:
    .

    According to the Malleus Maleficarum, or "Witches' Hammer", succubi would collect semen from the men they slept with, which incubi would then use to impregnate women. Children so begotten were supposed to be more susceptible to the influence of demons.

    Convienent way to explain an unplanned pregnancy. :D

    I agree with the sleep paralysis theory. I have suffered with that for years myself. Here are two interesting links
    http://watarts.uwaterloo.ca/~acheyne/A_P.html
    http://watarts.uwaterloo.ca/~acheyne/S_P.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 226 ✭✭cinnamon


    APOLOGIES for resurrecting this thread but........


    I have had several very realistic dreams of sex, where i feel someone behind me holding me, etc etc.... and i wake up and go back to sleep and the sex is still happening. Obviously it's quite a nice 'dream' but sometimes it freaks me out, because I think it could be a 'spirit' or something. so I make myself wake up and it it keeps happening i will try and keep awake until it stops.

    I really dont mind having these dreams but if there is anything paranormal happening i would be a bit concerned.

    One time I woke myself up just to see if there was anyone or anything there and I think I recalled a 'shape' or something. Cant remember it was a while ago.

    Just a few nights ago I had a 'kissing' dream but again it was very realistic.:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,987 ✭✭✭Ziycon


    cinnamon wrote:
    One time I woke myself up just to see if there was anyone or anything there and I think I recalled a 'shape' or something. Cant remember it was a while ago.

    Sounds like 'Sleep Paralysis'


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 994 ✭✭✭kshiel


    cinnamon wrote:
    APOLOGIES for resurrecting this thread but........


    I have had several very realistic dreams of sex, where i feel someone behind me holding me, etc etc.... and i wake up and go back to sleep and the sex is still happening. Obviously it's quite a nice 'dream' but sometimes it freaks me out, because I think it could be a 'spirit' or something. so I make myself wake up and it it keeps happening i will try and keep awake until it stops.

    I really dont mind having these dreams but if there is anything paranormal happening i would be a bit concerned.

    One time I woke myself up just to see if there was anyone or anything there and I think I recalled a 'shape' or something. Cant remember it was a while ago.

    Just a few nights ago I had a 'kissing' dream but again it was very realistic.:confused:

    Sorry now and this might seem silly but you say you wake up and it keeps happening, do you mean the sex element of the dream or the holding onto you from behind?

    Also do you know the person you are having sex with or does it just seem like you may know this person? Is there any sexual desire towards this energy (not sure what to call it) while you are awake? Sort of like an unusal recall of the dream or a day dream?

    Have you any reason to think that you may have come into contact with such an entity?

    sorry for all the questions. I know there personal and you may not feel comfortable sharing the details so if you like feel free to pm me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,097 ✭✭✭Darragh29


    mysteria wrote:
    There are many reports of people being visited at night by what seem too be "spirit entities" who subject them to a wide range of physical and sexual experiences, ranging from foot massages to full sexual intercourse. This is believed to be an entity which appears in female form (Succubus) or male (Incubus). Anyone experienced or heard of this? :eek:

    I've experienced Sleep Paralysis before on several occasions which is terrifying, especially if it starts happening at the same time as I might be having some kind of nightmare. It felt like I was being held down and squashed in the bed or held down my some unseen force. On one occasion, I couldn't move and there was what appeared to be a black entity at the end of the bed moving up towards me, but it was a bad nightmare coupled with the onset of sleep paralysis.


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