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What does he have? (HH)

  • 20-01-2006 2:09am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,124 ✭✭✭


    Hand from my favourite multi. The big nightly $30 on Party. We are already in the money and guaranteed $65 with 62 players left but the payouts are pretty flat right up until the final table. 11-20 gets about $180.

    Am I boned in this hand? No info on the villain. (Note I ****ing hate the fact that you can under reraise online)

    ***** Hand History for Game 3400631714 *****
    NL Texas Hold'em Trny:19355962 Level:11 Blinds (400/800) - Thursday, January 19, 21:02:49 EDT 2006
    Table Multi-Table(571850) Table #5 (Real Money)
    Seat 5 is the button
    Total number of players : 9
    Seat 1: biggggred ( $3240 )
    Seat 2: bingoboomer ( $9538 )
    Seat 3: minion27 ( $8782 )
    Seat 4: pakman1412 ( $14617 )
    Seat 5: NickyOD ( $9752 )
    Seat 6: wacko118 ( $19989 )
    Seat 7: Cannon06 ( $8545 )
    Seat 8: porcupine111 ( $27401 )
    Seat 10: clinger78 ( $14768 )
    Trny:19355962 Level:11
    Blinds (400/800)
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to NickyOD [ Kc Ts ]
    porcupine111 folds.
    clinger78 folds.
    biggggred folds.
    bingoboomer folds.
    minion27 folds.
    pakman1412 folds.
    NickyOD raises [2000].
    wacko118 raises [2800].
    Cannon06 folds.
    NickyOD calls [1200].
    ** Dealing Flop ** [ Qs, 7c, Td ]
    wacko118 is all-In [16789]
    Your time bank will be activated in 5 secs. If you do not want it to be used, please act now.
    NickyOD ???????


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,048 ✭✭✭jem


    aq or pocket jacks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭Bp!


    NickyOD wrote:
    (Note I ****ing hate the fact that you can under reraise online)

    One of my pet hates online, you raise to $160 and some muppet makes it $200 !:confused:

    Think ya have to release this one Nicky, cant see a min rerasise with any sort of low PP or AQ even, he's probably hoping you hit the Q here me thinx


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,047 ✭✭✭Culchie


    I bet you called:D

    Smells like the bullets big time....or too obvious?

    Did he have the 'auto raise' checked I wonder?

    You've about 33% of your stack in, if you fold you have approx 8 BB's left.

    I think I'd drop it, if you are behind, it's badly behind ... take the medicine and move quickly again with something else....the rest of the table still won't like taking you on with $6600 in your tank, so you've plenty of scope yet for a recovery.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29 SavageBeat


    Not knowing much about villians style play, I would put him on AK, and he missed on the flop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭Ste05


    The under re-raise is really annoying, because you have to call it, otherwise none of your other raises will be respected, but I don’t think you can call the flop bet here, it’s not worth the risk that he has AK, AJ or a small pair.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 146 ✭✭SandyVN


    JJ,, and id muck it, What did you do??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,467 ✭✭✭Norwich Fan Rob


    why on earth would he want to min re raise here with AK pre flop out of position, awful play if thats what he had.
    Slight chance its a pre determined stop and go with atc, but more likely its something like JJ+ as suggested.
    (the min re raise was to see if u had AA, KK, in which case u probably re pop him, and since u didnt, he reckons moving on this flop with no ace is going to be v hard to call).

    But i would be amazed if he had AK or the like of 66, 77 and played it like that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 349 ✭✭JustMac


    I don't have enough experience to give an opinion but:
    Its level 11 and villian appears to have an above average stack.
    This suggests he is probably a decent player or got lucky a few times.
    He's under-raised from the SB so that could suggest strength, maybe
    he wanted you to play back at him so he could come over the top all-in.
    Alternativley he is playing his stack size and wants to give you that
    opinion.
    Flop has come Q7T rainbow an he has pushed. He has you well covered it,
    it will cost him a third of his stack if you call and he loses. He could
    be trying to take you off your hand with him holding nothing or he could
    be holding AK, AQ, A7, AT, KJ, KQ, QJs, JTs, 89s, 77, pocket pair TT or bigger.

    I'm sure all of the above is basic stuff for you but I'm interested to know if you think you can actually put him on any hand with any degree of confidence based on the fact you have no info on villian and I think his play of this hand could equally be either an aggressive bluff or a trap. If it was me I'd fold this one and give him credit for a hand that is beating you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,393 ✭✭✭Jaden


    Looks like a missed AK* to me. Played badly pre-flop, mind you.

    He has a healthy stack, knows that you calling won't hurt too much. Missed the flop, but he has two overcards, trying to get you to drop middle/low pair.

    I'd have called. He ain't got trips, so you have outs. Double up here puts you 2nd in chips.

    * PS, Somewhere in the back of my head, warning bells are going off. AA? Assclown play if it is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 441 ✭✭marius


    Small re-raise does not look like AA KK QQ or AK to me.....I reckon something like K J with the straight draw......having said that im still folding here...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭Bp!


    Nicky was on the button and on the steal, if villan holds AK, AQ and want to protect button steal and take down preflop, his raise will be bigger here (unless of course hes slightly special! :D ) so with this under raise it has to be a hand he wants to play to the end,

    either that or he indeed does have AK and realsied on the flop that min raising with a drawing hand out of position is in fact a donkeys move and pushed to make up for his mistake , hard to know , all depends on his play so far in the tourney, how did he amass these chips, good play or one moster pot?

    even stll as cuclhie pointed out you still have $6000 and the blinds have now passed you so i might be more inclined to fold here and pick a better spot, unless you have him down for a terrible player...nearly any 2 cards he turns over will show a hand played badly whether its AA's JJ's or even AK


    EDIT: sorry just realised you said no info on player, ahh he might well be at it but i think im folding here and try get his chips later


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Hectorjelly


    looks like theres a good chance its AK, so with only 8 bbs left and nearly 1/3 of nickys stack in I would call.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 481 ✭✭The C Kid


    Considering he's made a horrible minimum raise against a button stealer and then a ridiculous overbet I'd say his range his massive, he could have anything.

    I reckon he's got the seven, probably 67s or 78s and doesn't want to play through the streets.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 481 ✭✭The C Kid


    Considering he's made a horrible minimum raise against a button stealer and then a ridiculous overbet I'd say his range his massive, he could have anything.

    I reckon he's got the seven, probably 67s or 78s and doesn't want to play through the streets.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,124 ✭✭✭NickyOD


    Its interesting how online betting patterns change from time to time. Some plays seem to spread like viruses. The bluff call bluff check raise is one that's cropping up on Prima a helll of a lot lately.

    6 months ago on Party I'd have seriously considered dropping my hand here after the flop because I would have been up against AA/KK too often for it to be a profitable call. But lately I've noticed people making the same play with nothing trying to represent the big hand.

    It really felt like he'd missed the flop. I made the call but unfortunately got outdrawn.

    NickyOD is all-In.
    ** Dealing Turn ** [ 2h ]
    ** Dealing River ** [ Ah ]
    wacko118 shows [ As, Jc ] a pair of aces.
    NickyOD shows [ Kc, Ts ] a pair of tens.
    wacko118 wins 10237 chips from side pot #1 with a pair of aces.
    wacko118 wins 20304 chips from the main pot with a pair of aces.
    Player NickyOD finished in 62 place and received $64.98
    NickyOD has left the table.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,600 ✭✭✭roryc


    JustMac wrote:
    I don't have enough experience to give an opinion but:

    love it :)


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