Now thats efficient

Nuttzz

http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-13495038,00.html

Committed the murder on the the 1st of January, Arrested on the 9th, tried on the 13th and sentenced on the 18th.

Regardless of what you feel about the death sentence, the Thai's wasted no time in prosecuting this matter, we could do with something similar here (the speed of the process) when you think of the amount of crime that happens when people are on bail

ronbyrne2005

Nuttzz wrote:

http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-13495038,00.html

Committed the murder on the the 1st of January, Arrested on the 9th, tried on the 13th and sentenced on the 18th.

Regardless of what you feel about the death sentence, the Thai's wasted no time in prosecuting this matter, we could do with something similar here (the speed of the process) when you think of the amount of crime that happens when people are on bail

a speedy trial does not justice make.
the thai officials could have had such a speedy trial to reassure tourists etc,the men found guilty could have been stiched up

netwhizkid

Well if there is sufficient proof without doubt that X person killed whoever, then a speedy trial is great. But the way it works here is so greedy Law Firms can make millions out of prolonged trials, then the outsourced prison service can make millions keeping the criminals locked up. I Could definitely think of some politicians that could outsourced for sure. See Below

casanova_kid

they did it, admitted it, so what's the point messing around. The problem with the irish legal system is that everything takes too long.

constitutionus

as mentioned earlier , if we sorted out our criminal this quick how would all our barristers make their millions.
our legal system is about making dosh for the boys, NOT about justice. take the frank connoly thing, SURE he has the right to go to the courts. but does he have the 700 THOUSAND it'll cost to clear his name . you want to sort our justice system out, pay everyone, judges, barristers ,legal sec. etc the AVERAGE INDUSTRIAL WAGE. and see how long the spongers stay there. in my honest oppinion MASSIVE wages and justice do not go. and if you want an example just look at ANY of the tribunals. MILLIONS of pounds = it was the culture of the day and no ones responsible:rolleyes:

Zebra3

casanova_kid wrote:

they did it, admitted it, so what's the point messing around.

Well the Birmingham Six and the Guildford Four admitted it as well. :rolleyes:

Nuttzz

look at the robert holahan case, wayne o donoghue admitted to it yet it took nearly a year to complete the trial...

Manic Moran

Did I miss the execution yet?

NTM

Victor

Nuttzz wrote:

Now thats efficient

No, thats called political interference.

Imagine if Liam Lawlor phoned up a judge and asked for something to be expedited.

Nuttzz

ohh boo bleedin hoo, 2 raping murderers convicted.....

Sangre

Haha...did you seriously just praise the Thai legal system?

dathi1

Haha...did you seriously just praise the Thai legal system?

I cant think of any perfect legal system worldwide. If the DNA forensics were verified and its a clear cut rape and murder the death penalty is the way to go. In this case the relatives of the deceased asked for it to be just life in jail. So I'd say they should have the last word.

Sangre

The Thai legal system is one of the most corrupt and flawed in the world. Money talks.

Nuttzz

the age old question on the politics forum of boards.ie applies

"have you got a link for that....?"

Sangre

http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGASA390032002?open&of=ENG-380

Or try 'Welcome to Hell' by Colin Martin to hear an innocent irishman's views on life inside a Bangkok prison for a few years

http://www.play.com/play247.asp?pa=pab&page=title&r=BOOK&title=738067

Nuttzz

Sangre wrote:

Or try 'Welcome to Hell' by Colin Martin to hear an innocent irishman's views on life inside a Bangkok prison for a few years

Birmingham Six and the Guildford Four... examples of english "justice" yet no one says its corrupt to the core

The European committee for the PREVENTION OF TORTURE has slammed the behaviour of our own gardai....


Is there country that AI dont have a problem with?
http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGEUR010012001?open&of=ENG-IRL#IRE

Now have you any unbiased links?

BuffyBot

Birmingham Six and the Guildford Four... examples of english "justice" yet no one says its corrupt to the core

It might just be me, but I seem to remember plenty of people saying it was corrupt re: those two cases...

Victor

Nuttzz wrote:

Birmingham Six and the Guildford Four... examples of english "justice" yet no one says its corrupt to the core

Actually, people were saying that the detective unit in the West Midlands Police was corrupted.

Remember that Ireland is one few countries that has a single police force*, to say West Midlands Police was corrupt does not mean the Metropolitan Police was corrupt.

* Technicly not true as there are airport police, port police, customs, etc. However, many other countries have police, paramilitary police and local police.

Zombrex

Nuttzz wrote:

Is there country that AI dont have a problem with?

That's the bloody point :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Nuttzz wrote:

Committed the murder on the the 1st of January, Arrested on the 9th, tried on the 13th and sentenced on the 18th.

I find it a little hard to believe that the police would be able to compare DNA with samples from the defendents, present the results of this DNA test to defendents, get a confession, allow the defendents time to mount a defense case and organise a trail in 4 days

There is a difference between an efficent trail and kangroo court.