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Consumer Driven Market?

  • 18-01-2006 8:34am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,243 ✭✭✭


    Scene: Early morning (8:05am - Wednesday - Rathmines Swan Shopping Centre)

    I'm hungry, very hungry, and all I want to have is the delicious food prepared by Cafe Kylemore.
    After walking in, I see all the lights in Kylemore are off, and my heart skips a beat .... and then I see the sign stating that they've moved upstairs. *phew*

    So up I trod, rubbing my belling and licking my lips as I prepare for a beautiful breakfast of sausages, rashers, and beans...
    But to my dismay I find that their hot food is no longer on display (my heart skips a second beat... getting worried now). Instead, I'm told to collect a numbered card, and select my meal from the menus above me.
    A quick scan over them reveals what I expected to be the case, egg or hash browns or pudding in all of them. *sigh*
    So I ask for my usual - 2 sausages, 2 rashers, beans, and 4 slices of toast please (I've been getting the same meal in breakfast places in every country I've visited, for YEARS).

    Her: "You have to choose from the menu"
    Me: "But, what I want isn't on the menu, can't I create a different order?"
    *manager walks over as she was near the till at this time*
    Manager: "You can't select your own breakfast, you have to choose from the menu. The 'feast' breakfast probably suits you fine"
    Me: "But, I don't want half of what's on that thing, I don't like egg, pudding, tomato, hash browns..."
    Manager: "Well you'll have to pick one, we don't do it seperately"
    Me: "Do you mind my asking why the sudden change? There's never been a problem with this before"
    Manager: "Company policy - so you'll have to pick something from the menu"

    ..... at which point I storm out, fuming that I'm no longer getting my lovely breakfast.



    So on I stroll to O'Briens, rubbing my tummy and licking my lips thinking about my new Chicken+Bacon triple decker that gonna be in my tummy very very soon....
    And when I get there I find that there's chicken-mayo (that horrible looking mix of chicken + mayonnaise that looks like a dog just threw up...) but no plain chicken. Turns out that they make the chicken mayo in the mornings, and use all the chicken to do it. They don't keep any separate on the off chance that someone may deviate from the mayonnaise side of the fence for a gander at the other side :(



    Finally I reach the last-chance-saloon ... Centra.
    And a deli I can rely on - I get a nice sausage and rasher sandwhich, with butter, lettuce, cheese and ketchup. All as ordered. Politely. And quickly.

    What the hell is going on in this country :/


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    I don't know, and as well as that, I don't know about Dublin, but Cafe Kylemore is Galway is absolute muck at it's cheapest. :)

    Although I was in O Briens recently and they had plenty of chicken kept seperate from the ravaging spoils of mayo....it's pretty hard to believe alright they wouldn't offer the possibility of plain chicken or chicken with your own choosen dressing.....I'd say its a once off thing you happened to stumble on one bad morning!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,243 ✭✭✭zoro


    It's most certainly not a once off thing (the obriens chicken incident) ...
    I've seen it happening here _EVERY_ time I've gone in. I'm just in a particularly cranky mood today so I'm ranting :)


  • Posts: 3,620 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Irish people will complain about anything.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,807 ✭✭✭✭Orion


    You freak. Don't you know you're supposed to conform to whatever they tell you you should eat. Jeez - you think you're a free man with free choice do you? :rolleyes:

    It's the same everywhere mate. My local Supervalu used to stock some teas that I like in leaf form. The all of a sudden the leaves disappeared and I could only get bags. I queried the manager about this (the managers there are sound btw) and she told me that head office made a decision not to provide leaf tea in Maynooth anymore. That's progress for you.

    I suggest reading a book called Shopped. It's written by a food journalist about supermarkets and they 'choices' they give consumers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭Nuttzz


    zoro wrote:
    S I don't like egg, pudding, tomato, hash browns..."

    not much of a breakfast without them.... they put on the menu what the majority want, we want our egg our pudd and so on...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,243 ✭✭✭zoro


    bull sh*t tbh.

    Kylemore has always been about getting a selection of the food in front of you. They had set menu's to choose from if you were getting a larger or more varied selection (like in the brekkie menus with everything on them) and for money-savings.

    I often found I was paying the same amount for a large breakfast even though i was getting less, but I didnt care cause the food was always good.

    Now? I'm never going there again


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,689 Mod ✭✭✭✭stevenmu


    That's the way the world is going these days, it's like the fashion industry, they don't make the clothes we want, they make whatever clothes they feel like and try to convince us that we want them.

    It's because there's more money to be made selling us things we don't want than there is selling us the things we do. Either because you have to pay extra to get everything you do want by accepting stuff you don't aswell, or because you're left feeling unsatisfied with one purchase and then make another to try and fix it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,020 ✭✭✭mang87


    Zoro you're always cranky


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭Siogfinsceal


    dont blame ya zoro sh*t like that p*sses me off!! happens in a few places. Kylemore are a rip off anyway


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,997 ✭✭✭jaggeh


    i dont feel the same unless ive had a bacon sandwich for my breakfast....

    the spar on parnell street makes the nicest sandwiches between 7.30am-8am and 9.30am-10am (thats when the rashers are done)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,386 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    zoro wrote:
    Turns out that they make the chicken mayo in the mornings, and use all the chicken to do it.
    That is crazy, the whole point of these particular places is that you CAN pick and choose without asking like you are being particular (like if you asked for a strange way to make a big mac). I know plenty of people who hate mayo. Many eat chicken since it is so low in fat, has anybody seen this in other O'Briends.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    Stop complaining, if you have such a problem with it then go down to your local supermarket and buy the ingredients yourself and make the sandwhich, otherwise either pick from the menu or leave.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,382 ✭✭✭✭AARRRGH


    It is a consumer driven market. Ireland is land of the sheep. The sheep want to be told what to do, what to feel, how to react.

    It depresses the hell out of me when I see highly intelligent people so terrified to have their own opinion in this country.

    Everything is a blank, ready made, breakfast roll.

    ...

    In the future it'll only get worse. Extreme sheep will create extreme backlash. The drones versus the terrorists...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,243 ✭✭✭zoro


    rb_ie wrote:
    Stop complaining, if you have such a problem with it then go down to your local supermarket and buy the ingredients yourself and make the sandwhich, otherwise either pick from the menu or leave.

    :rolleyes: Honestly didnt expect to see someone say that...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,807 ✭✭✭✭Orion


    Neither did I. And people who do say that are the problem. Why the fúck should some prick in a suit who's probably never eaten in his own two-bit restaurant tell me what I can or can't eat?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    dublindude wrote:
    It is a consumer driven market. Ireland is land of the sheep. .....etc

    How right you are. Sadly.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    rubadub wrote:
    That is crazy, the whole point of these particular places is that you CAN pick and choose without asking like you are being particular (like if you asked for a strange way to make a big mac). I know plenty of people who hate mayo. Many eat chicken since it is so low in fat, has anybody seen this in other O'Briends.

    I've eaten in O Briens a fair few times, never was the mayo actually integrated with the chicken! Although I have mayo with it anyway......:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,235 ✭✭✭iregk


    Something similar happened to me in the rip off mecca that is Dublin Airport recently. Went upstairs for a breakfast and wanted something that resembled a big full job.

    I dont like tomatoe so I said to the chap can you swap the tomatoe for a sasauge or something and I wasn't allowed to do this. So basically I just made a "custom" meal and asked for everythign that would have been there had he just swapped the tomatoe for a sasauge.

    Guess what the outcome was? Full Irish breakfast=€7:50 my "Custom" meal=€9:50!!!! what an absolute joke.

    I complained about it and got a speal about how I made my own and they cannot substitue ingredients. I told her i wasn't paying, she said you have to as you've taken the food so I put the plate down walked away and they called me back and charged standard full Irish price.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,243 ✭✭✭zoro


    iregk wrote:
    I complained about it and got a speal about how I made my own and they cannot substitue ingredients. I told her i wasn't paying, she said you have to as you've taken the food so I put the plate down walked away and they called me back and charged standard full Irish price.

    Excellent - well played :D
    Bastards :(


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