fold this?

Atlas_IRL

PP sit and go

bout 7 players left blinds are 15/30

in mid position i make it 60 to go i get 1 caller i have AK.

flop 10KJ..

Villain goes all in for 600 odd i have 750

i thought about it but folded.. didnt want to risk not finishing in the money..

was wondering would u call here or fold?

Hectorjelly

If your opponent had anything that beat you he would of check raised you (or check called really).

5starpool

Atlas_IRL wrote:

PP sit and go

bout 7 players left blinds are 15/30

in mid position i make it 60 to go i get 1 caller i have AK.

flop 10KJ..

Villain goes all in for 600 odd i have 750

i thought about it but folded.. didnt want to risk not finishing in the money..

was wondering would u call here or fold?

I would have to call this. What were you hoping to hit? If you are behind to AQ or 2 pair then so be it. I doubt he has trips anyhow. Also, min raising is not good there really either, if you let people in cheap and they hit bigger than you then it's a risk you took.

connie147

5starpool wrote:

I would have to call this. What were you hoping to hit? If you are behind to AQ or 2 pair then so be it. I doubt he has trips anyhow. Also, min raising is not good there really either, if you let people in cheap and they hit bigger than you then it's a risk you took.

Obviously, you didnt raise enough pre-flop,but having hit the flop i cant see that you can do anything else other than call.what can your opponent have? if he had filled a str theres no way hes betting all-in. id call here every time

shoutman

Min raise preflop was a poor move to start with.

But would be a call every time for me. I can't see anyone go all in here if they had trips or a straight. It's just an absolute gross over bet.

Definate Call for me.

SandyVN

You Should of raised more its nearly impossible to put him on a hand.

Id call, why go all in if he has the nuts. Id say he has A10.

califano

Whats more interesting is that it seems to be level1 and 2 or 3 players are already out and you two are down to 600 and 750. Im presuming you get 1000 starting chips or more. I want to know how you parted with your chips up to now if your folding this hand?. Unless you insulted his mother in a previous hand you were more than likely ahead when you folded and even then still more than likely ahead.

Sparky1808

Poor raise, you've made it very cheap for your opponents to see the flop.

...but on the basis of the flop, this would be an instant call for me.

There is no way he has a set or the straight, and if he does, he has played it awfully. I'm guessing he's on the open end straight draw, maybe top pair with weak kicker, middle pair? ...your unlucky if your behind (lets put it that way)

But as somebody said what did you raise so little for? and what better scenario would you have liked to seen on this flop?

I would of predicted him to be pushing with Q J, Q 10, A J, A 10 (maybe)

CoD

Its on party poker, you only start with 800, blinds up every 10 hands, and this is the 2nd level.

I'd fold, you still have 750 of your 800 and your only losing 60. Easy to give it up. Just incase hes overbetting like that looking for it to look weird and get a call. Its not really worth it when you can just give up 60 and play on with a almost full starting stack.

Whats the buy in here anyway?

Ste05

CoD wrote:

Whats the buy in here anyway?

I might fold depending..

hotspur

600 into a 120 pot? Either he is unutterely bad and flopped a str8 (dunno what the buy in is) or more likely it's the typical numpty all in with a queen that you see with flush draws all the time. But they're right min raise with AK is not right. Call him.

ianmc38

I dont see the reason for folding here. This is an autocall.

mewso

Interesting. With the general craze for pushing with the nuts I think it's far from an auto-call. I think a fold is fine here and I wouldn't be surprised if villian had AA. A call will be good most of the time but as I say I don't see how it's an auto-call.

PPP-Pit Boss

It looks like a scare bet to me. It is very likely he did pick something up and the flop scared him into the move. You raised pre-flop but only minimally so this really could have put you on anything. If he was holding a moster pre-flop however he most likely would have re-raised you so whilst I like the AA - scare bet idea from Muso I just could not put him on it. 10 10 is possible though? I agree it is NOT an auto call BUT it is unlikely he is pushing with the nut straight on the flop.

ianmc38

Perhaps not an autocall, but i dont think any half decent player is pushing here with a straight or trip As. That said though, muso is right in that pushing with the nuts when UTG does seem to be the new craze. Seeing it alot online recently. One example was a guy on VC last night, pushing when UTG with flopped quad As for $200 into a $20 pot. Unbelievably he got called by KK and TT and got paid off.

califano

Weak players often make all-in moves like this with second or bottom pair because they dont want any tough decisions in further betting rounds. I reckon you'd be ahead nearly 9/10 times making it worth calling every time.

califano

ianmc38 wrote:

One example was a guy on VC last night, pushing when UTG with flopped quad As for $200 into a $20 pot. Unbelievably he got called by KK and TT and got paid off.

Actually this was a great move. Your usually not getting much if any action on an ace ace flop so there is no subtle way of getting paid. So no better way of making non believers of others that hold big pairs than moving all in. Usually if they fold they would have folded to any bet.

Norwich Fan Rob

speaking of non believers, and how to play quads.........

http://www.pokerpages.com/articles/archives/angelo27.htm

StraddleFor6

I reckon he's got J10 or Q and a pair. You could be winning but no need to risk it.

Atlas_IRL

thanks for the replies...

it was only a fiver game but my account was down to $14 so i wanted to get it back up again..

i had $50 and got raped playin .50 $1 tables...(min)

i heard on ppp u can play .15 .30 etrc which is better for me also..


Also i flopped quad aces about a month ago with 5 players on the table 1 person saw the flop and folded when he saw what came up i won 2 feckin dollars it was holdem as well... i want to play no limit( il try ppp..
party poker is pretty crap)

Y dont they have cheap no limit tables on PP cheapest is $25

StraddleFor6

Did you call or fold in the end? Find out what he had?

Atlas_IRL

i folded.. went on to get third($10)

***** Hand History for Game 3389000903 *****
30/60 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 19299299) - Tue Jan 17 19:37:51 EST 2006
Table Speed Table 1104523 (Real Money) -- Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 1: andrea19761 (850)
Seat 2: Asuki (775)
Seat 3: fitzlegend (785)
Seat 4: nalex99 (750)
Seat 7: butcher123 (950)
Seat 8: tcamo17 (1518)
Seat 9: xSueBeex (1795)
Seat 10: ladymacabre (577)
xSueBeex posts small blind (15)
ladymacabre posts big blind (30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to fitzlegend [ Ks, Ah ]
andrea19761 calls (30)
Asuki folds.
fitzlegend raises (60) to 60
nalex99 folds.
butcher123 folds.
tcamo17 folds.
xSueBeex folds.
ladymacabre calls (30)
andrea19761 calls (30)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Kh, Ts, Js ]
ladymacabre bets (517)
ladymacabre is all-In.
andrea19761 folds.
fitzlegend folds.
Creating Main Pot with $712 with ladymacabre
** Summary **
Main Pot: 712
Board: [ Kh Ts Js ]
andrea19761 balance 790, lost 60 (folded)
Asuki balance 775, didn't bet (folded)
fitzlegend balance 725, lost 60 (folded)
nalex99 balance 750, didn't bet (folded)
butcher123 balance 950, didn't bet (folded)
tcamo17 balance 1518, didn't bet (folded)
xSueBeex balance 1780, lost 15 (folded)
ladymacabre balance 712, bet 577, collected 712, net +135



dunno y i only raised to the big blind... i should have made it 2 or 3 bets to go