average industrial wage

mmm12

what is the average industrial wage in ireland?

ronbyrne2005

circa 35k check www.cso.ie for latest figures.

Random

35k?

Forgive me... but industrial wage means sorta labour job? Or standard wage across the adult population of Ireland ?

TempestSabre

ciaranfo wrote:

35k?

Forgive me... but industrial wage means sorta labour job? Or standard wage across the adult population of Ireland ?

Its the average wage. Personally I think its misleading as its thrown higher by a some people earning very high wages. I'm in a position to know the wages in many of the people in the places I have worked and the majority would not be on 35k. In fact I'd say the majority are on about 25-30k. I've been told that the public sector also throws this figure off, since there tends to be more of of older people on higher salaries than you would find in the private sector.

That said I've not done any significant research into it, and I could be completely wrong. My own impression is that a lot of people live like they earn 100k or more a year. When they can't possibly be. But the people I know who do earn 100k+ a year pretty much live as I'd expect them to. I'm always puzzled about that.

Random

Yeh... stats are always pretty misleading I guess. Bloody nightmare trying to work out what's what when you're just starting out in the "workforce".

ronbyrne2005

theres a small percentage on 100k plus etc so it wouldnt distort average wage figure that much

nesf

ronbyrne2005 wrote:

circa 35k check www.cso.ie for latest figures.

Um from the CSO it's closer to 30K. Also the "average industrial wage" afaik doesn't include the public service or banking, law etc.

lostinsuperfunk

Median wage would be a more useful measure than the average. This would reduce the effect of the relatively small number of very high earners.

TempestSabre

I'd say the % of high earners is higher than you'd think.

deadfingers

Yeah the average is a bit misleading. I know my friend works in a mine as a general operative and he is on 52k a year and another friend who works in a warehouse and he earns 18k.

rubadub

deadfingers wrote:

I know my friend works in a mine as a general operative and he is on 52k a year

What does he do? drive the getaway car?;)

I do know some on very high wages for the job they do, it is usually down to overtime, and weekly bonuses for things. I now a guy driving a truck who earns more than another guy, a manager 10 years his senior with a degree in electronic engineering, and 2 masters, working longer hours (no overtime).

I would have thought 25-30k myself

Litcagral

rubadub wrote:

What does he do? drive the getaway car?;)

I do know some on very high wages for the job they do, it is usually down to overtime, and weekly bonuses for things. I now a guy driving a truck who earns more than another guy, a manager 10 years his senior with a degree in electronic engineering, and 2 masters, working longer hours (no overtime).

I would have thought 25-30k myself

Most managers are paid a salary instead of a wage and therefore cannot earn as much in overtime, unsocial, and other allowances. I presume the average industrial wage refers to basic pay - otherwise it would be misleading. I heard of an ESB linesman who grossed €136k last year.

homah_7ft

Litcagral wrote:

Most managers are paid a salary instead of a wage and therefore cannot earn as much in overtime, unsocial, and other allowances. I presume the average industrial wage refers to basic pay - otherwise it would be misleading. I heard of an ESB linesman who grossed €136k last year.

The reason you heard about him is that he is exceptional. I don't know whether it's the wage earned over the year or the basic pay that is used though.

nesf

homah_7ft wrote:

The reason you heard about him is that he is exceptional. I don't know whether it's the wage earned over the year or the basic pay that is used though.

I know with the Prison service and the Gardai that they give two sets of figures. One including overtime and one without. The difference is staggering. Or at least was


Prison officers (per week): Before Overtime: 765.85 After Overtime: 1,106.71

Nevyn

You also have to factor in the shift allowances for certain jobs, working nights or 12 hour nights and
12 hour nights at the weekend can up those wages.
General ops can be anything from putting stickers on boxes to running to loading surface mount soldering machines at the start of a line
or high level testing of chipsets.
Each has a title of general ops, but very differing responsibilties, skill sets and wages.