Anyone else miss Monty?

Sleepy

There was talk of a banhammer coming a few months back, I for one reckon it's a pity it hasn't happened. After Hours has always been spammy but it's reaching new depths of narcisistic, attention-whoring, tedium at the moment. I'm missing Monty's reign of terror atm.

It's no criticism of the mods, they're doing their best but a net can't hold back an ocean. Do any of the mods agree that they need some backup? Or is it just time to unleash and stamp on the first sign of muppetry with a site-ban?

(btw, I'll amp-test myself here, I've no desire to mod AH)

danniemcq

esp know your nerds i mean ffs thats just gone crazy

So the banhammer is when you just siteban people for a day?

segadreamcast

Sleepy wrote:

There was talk of a banhammer coming a few months back, I for one reckon it's a pity it hasn't happened. After Hours has always been spammy but it's reaching new depths of narcisistic, attention-whoring, tedium at the moment. I'm missing Monty's reign of terror atm.

It's no criticism of the mods, they're doing their best but a net can't hold back an ocean. Do any of the mods agree that they need some backup? Or is it just time to unleash and stamp on the first sign of muppetry with a site-ban?

(btw, I'll amp-test myself here, I've no desire to mod AH)

I'd have to agree. The quality of posting on AH has gone waaaaay down lately... though *puts on thinking hat* I'd say a lot of the 'brain drain' on this forum can be linked to the creation of other, more specialist forums, which ensure that there aren't as many 'intelligent' (Well, my opinion) diverse topics on AH any more - thus ensuring a higher proportion of crap.

So, in conclusion, stricter controls? Sure. Not entirely certain what (if any) impact it'll have though...

Dave

He was the one and only.

quank

Someone tell me why Monty isn't here anymore, and be dramatic.

monkeyfudge

quank wrote:

Someone tell me why Monty isn't here anymore, and be dramatic.

Those funds were just resting in his account.

Kernel

Overuse of banning is stupid and immature. I don't think people (normally) need to be banned at all if the mods do their job well. So, stop moaning and being sycophantic to the mods people!

The reason older members feel posts are ****e nowadays is usually just because they have seen it all before and feel jaded.

Sarky

Monty. His unique brand of ruthless, pitiless thread-culling is sorely missed.

Giblet

I wasn't allowed to randomly ban people

Crucifix

I liked Monty's crusade against pointless polls, where after every offense the punishment ban would be increased by month. By the end of it's run it was exciting waiting for the next pointless poll.

Mossy Monk

them were the days

jimmycrackcorm

Giblet wrote:

I wasn't allowed to randomly ban people

Random Post Testing requires a constitutional change.

Cake Fiend

Monty died of Star Wars Galaxies.

Sleepy

5 locked threads on the first page of AH?

Ask and ye shall receive

stevenmu

Sleepy wrote:

There was talk of a banhammer coming a few months back, I for one reckon it's a pity it hasn't happened. After Hours has always been spammy but it's reaching new depths of narcisistic, attention-whoring, tedium at the moment. I'm missing Monty's reign of terror atm.

It's no criticism of the mods, they're doing their best but a net can't hold back an ocean. Do any of the mods agree that they need some backup? Or is it just time to unleash and stamp on the first sign of muppetry with a site-ban?

(btw, I'll amp-test myself here, I've no desire to mod AH)

Every generation has things which define it, unfortunatly for us the current generation seems to be defined by it's narcisistic, attention-whoring, tedium. I'd also add in melodrama which is probably common to all, but the current generation seem to have blown it out of all proportion.

0utshined

Giblet should have been allowed to use the Banhammer in my opinion, with the proviso that if he didn't make a headshot with it the person only got probation for a few hours.

After Hours is pretty much the same as it has been before but posts with no content seem to be more noticable. Guys\Girls, if all you have to say is LOLZ, ROFL, ME TOO then don't post, we don't care. Yeah, i've probably been guilty of it in the past but it's not interesting to read.

Civilian_Target

Sleepy wrote:

5 locked threads on the first page of AH?

Ask and ye shall receive

Thing was - Monty didn't lock threads - he removed them. You never saw the crap threads locked, they just vanished into thin air...

muckwarrior

NoelRock wrote:

The quality of posting on AH has gone waaaaay down lately...

No offense, but I've seen that comment at least a hundred times since I joined. I've even seen people that are only here a month or two say it. Rose tinted glasses me thinks.

AARRRGH

quank wrote:

Someone tell me why Monty isn't here anymore, and be dramatic.

It was a stormy winters night. Rain was lashing the windows and the wind was shaking the door. Monty was staring out into the distance, somehow hoping Rusty would return home, like he always did. But deep down Monty knew Rusty was gone. He'd probably been hit by a car or found another home with better food, better love.

In the distance, out on the rough sea, something caught Monty's eye. It was an old, wooden ship, too large to be a yacht yet too small to be a tanker.

Hmmm that's strange, Monty thought to himself.

With time the ship became larger and larger until it was clear that the ship was sailing towards Monty's home. Living next to the beach had it's advantages, but it also meant strange ships arrived from time to time.

When the ship reached the shore one thing was frighteningly obvious. This was no ordinary ship. It was a pirate ship.

Terrified Monty froze, staring at the ship, staring at the strange beasts on the ship.

I must be dreaming, he thought to himself. There is a pirate ship outside my house.

Yes, I must be dreaming.

Monty walked away from the window and began his nightly routine. Brushing his teeth. Ironing his clothes for the next days work.

Knock knock.

Someone was knocking on the door.

Rusty had returned. Six months earlier he'd fallen asleep on a ship. He was now the captain of that ship. He had become a pirate. Travelling the world, he terrorised cats and raped bitches.

But Monty didn't care about these things. He was overjoyed to see his Rusty again. He knew he'd come back. He knew it.

...

Monty has never been seen again.

Scraggs

i've a feeling that if monty was here i wouldnt be...

Mr.Nice Guy

Scraggs wrote:

i've a feeling that if monty was here i wouldnt be...

He's not your Dad is he?

sceptre

muckwarrior wrote:

Rose tinted glasses me thinks.

Nostalgia just isn't what it used to be.

Thing is, boards has rather grown especially in the last two years with a few dramatic spurts (there are about 45,000 more users than there were when I joined in 2001 and it was around for about three years before that). Put simply, with more people you're going to get more "useless posts" and more chat, or more of something close to chat. Especially on AH, which is the closest thing to the catchall anything-that-don't-fit-anywhere-else board (more so than even TCN, which has exacting standards).

I've said before that I wouldn't mod AH in a fit (not that I was offered the job mind you), I still stand by that and have respect for anyone who can do any sort of half-arsed job at all and we get at least that from our current mods (only kidding, don't ban me, oh wait, you can't:p). I don't see a dramatic new problem to be honest.

nesf

I promise, come February, there will be more bannings. I'll have more time to devote to individual suppression and persecution once this month is over.

Why isnt monty around anymore?

Sleepy

nesf wrote:

I promise, come February, there will be more bannings. I'll have more time to devote to individual suppression and persecution once this month is over.

Woo-hoo!

Sarky

/me begins singing "Padraig, Padraig, uber alles"

nesf

Sarky wrote:

/me begins singing "Padraig, Padraig, uber alles"

You forgot the fada.

*raises an eyebrow and the whip*

Sleepy

There's irony from a man so fond of the fada in his own name!

simu

Yes. The fada actually resembles a raised eyebrow so it's doubly symbolic for nesf. :v: o_Ó

Sleepy

I was refering to reason that Ciarán declared his undying love for you at the last beers (that you remembered his fada) and then he goes and forgets Pádraig's...

simu

simu wrote:

Yes. The fada actually resembles a raised eyebrow so it's doubly symbolic for nesf. :v: o_Ó

I love double teams:)

simu

Tis true tis true. You have an impressive memory!

nesf

Sleepy wrote:

I was refering to reason that Ciarán declared his undying love for you at the last beers (that you remembered his fada) and then he goes and forgets Pádraig's...

I don't remember that...

Then I was just a little intoxicated...

simu

שּׁגּזּאָ <--- intoxication, from the inside out.

Sleepy

simu wrote:

You have an impressive memory!

My memories are a lot fuzzier of later on in the night, believe me!

Monty - the one and only

oh didnt you know, im just a myth


or am i?


if you want me to go nuts on ah.. i will... just dont blame for the amounts of complaining that will follow

TerrorFirmer

Monty - the one and only wrote:

oh didnt you know, im just a myth


or am i?


if you want me to go nuts on ah.. i will... just dont blame for the amounts of complaining that will follow

Should I be dribbling in terror right about now or.....

Sparky

Monty - the one and only wrote:

oh didnt you know, im just a myth


or am i?


if you want me to go nuts on ah.. i will... just dont blame for the amounts of complaining that will follow

They say the silent ones are the most deadliest, you shall show us in good time.

Kernel

I don't understand the mod fanboys who clamour to see people banned. What pleasure do you all derive from it? From what I've seen here, anyone who deserves to get banned does get banned. Why do you want mods running amok with bannings, it makes the place more bland without the dissident element.

Pigman II

Yes, I also miss Montel's iron fist (although I have to admit my posture has improved dramatically in the interim).

Monty - the one and only

kernal, think its due to the fact when i had more free time, I was the sole mod in here... i ran things pretty strictly alot more so than they are now, the general level of posts was readable....

but then back then far less users..but now more users and more muppets little harder to stem the flow... feck no ... alot harder...to stem the flow at some of the utter rubbish i see in here at times...

i may not make the noise i used to in here, but im still here working in the backround...Beat can attest to that, which was nothin personal, rules are rules...they are there for every one, not just non-mods.

Sleepy

Monty - the one and only wrote:

oh didnt you know, im just a myth


or am i?


if you want me to go nuts on ah.. i will... just dont blame for the amounts of complaining that will follow

Why would I complain about the mirth the whining of fvcktards brings to so many of us?

kernel wrote:

I don't understand the mod fanboys who clamour to see people banned. What pleasure do you all derive from it? From what I've seen here, anyone who deserves to get banned does get banned. Why do you want mods running amok with bannings, it makes the place more bland without the dissident element.

It's quite simple really: most people are banned for muppetry. With less people around engaging in muppetry, the noise to post ration goes down and Boards is a better place. You can be a dissident without spamming like a Tourettes sufferer who just discovered a keyboard...

Kernel

Monty - the one and only wrote:

kernal, think its due to the fact when i had more free time, I was the sole mod in here... i ran things pretty strictly alot more so than they are now, the general level of posts was readable....

but then back then far less users..but now more users and more muppets little harder to stem the flow... feck no ... alot harder...to stem the flow at some of the utter rubbish i see in here at times...

The rules are rules, fair enough, and there are muppets - but I think the muppets get banned already - why ask for more bannings? I worry when normal users keep going on about banhammers and such, I think we should ban the trolls/muppets, but live with the diversity in opinion and intelligence - at least it makes it more interesting!

For issues like spamming, I think that older users like yourself and Sleepy have just seen it all already. I've noticed many of the same threads popping up now and then, and it's a pain, but I suppose the new users just don't know we've covered it all before.

0utshined

Careful now Kernel........

Civilian_Target

Sleepy wrote:

Why would I complain about the mirth the whining of fvcktards brings to so many of us?


It's quite simple really: most people are banned for muppetry. With less people around engaging in muppetry, the noise to post ratio goes down and Boards is a better place. You can be a dissident without spamming like a Tourettes sufferer who just discovered a keyboard...

Damn right! What he said!

Unleash a reign of terror, bannings, burnings and floggings.

CuLT

Oh Civilian_Target, when will you learn

http://www.boards.ie/gathering/oldposts.jpg

Monty - the one and only

After hours, these days is pretty well covered, but the levels of rubbish, not things that have been posted already... but just utter rubbish is pretty bad...what you dont see is the amount of stuff thats deleted these days.

Some people seem to be unable to look for the correct forums to post in(tv ads as a recent example...I wonder maybe that might just be posted under television)...I alone move as many as 60 topics a week out of ah to proper places.
As you say muppets do get banned pretty fast, what people looking for banhammers are concerned with is what they get away with until it gets to that point... way Ive always worked is, 3 strikes and you get permbanned....1st is a warning, 2nd is a temp ban, 3rd bye bye for good....Seems harsh dosent it... but when people know those are the rules they are and were far less likely to break them. Every one here knew I didnt take crap from anyone mods included, having banned 13 of them over the years from after hours....

Call me what you will, my job here is to keep this board trouble free...and will do as I see fit to do so... within reason of course.



And civilian_target.....Tempting fate is never wise.

There is a reason they made this of me.... http://www.boards.ie/gathering/montyofterror.jpg

arbeitsscheuer

Sleepy wrote:

There was talk of a banhammer coming a few months back, I for one reckon it's a pity it hasn't happened. After Hours has always been spammy but it's reaching new depths of narcisistic, attention-whoring, tedium at the moment. I'm missing Monty's reign of terror atm.

It's no criticism of the mods, they're doing their best but a net can't hold back an ocean. Do any of the mods agree that they need some backup? Or is it just time to unleash and stamp on the first sign of muppetry with a site-ban?

(btw, I'll amp-test myself here, I've no desire to mod AH)

*applauds*
Absolutely 100% f**king spot on. The spamtastic side of this place has gone through the roof in the last 6 months or so, or the "noise to post ratio" as some call it...

Again, like Sleepy says, it's no criticism of the mods. In the UCD forum peacheh had an absolute nightmare the whole time she was trying to mod the place, being incredibly unfortunate in happening to take over the place just when the most f**king dumbass spammers began to infest the place.

I actually deliberately got myself banned just so I wouldn't have to deal with even reading the sh*t in there any more - that's how f**king bad it got. And peacheh hated modding the place - hated it.

It's so f**king irritating.

WhiteWashMan

SebtheBum wrote:

*applauds*
Absolutely 100% f**king spot on. The spamtastic side of this place has gone through the roof in the last 6 months or so, or the "noise to post ratio" as some call it....

so what should be allowed and not allowed?

id be interested to hear this, becuase every one has their own opinion on what is tolerable, and what is not.

[QUOTE=SebtheBumAgain, like Sleepy says, it's no criticism of the mods. In the UCD forum peacheh had an absolute nightmare the whole time she was trying to mod the place, being incredibly unfortunate in happening to take over the place just when the most f**king dumbass spammers began to infest the place..[/QUOTE]

AH has always been the home of spammers and fúckwits. do you think we should ban them all? or perhaps we should only ban thopse that dont make a deep philosophical point?

[QUOTE=SebtheBumI actually deliberately got myself banned just so I wouldn't have to deal with even reading the sh*t in there any more - that's how f**king bad it got. And peacheh hated modding the place - hated it.

It's so f**king irritating.[/QUOTE]

perhaps youre just intolerant?


everyone here has an opinion as i said. everyone once they have been here remebers when it was such and such a way. most of get over it.
some people complain about the 'newbies' who have to prove themselves.

believe me, if i was to ban everyone who posted something thats been here before, thats posted a topic that ive answer back in 1999, who has posted the same opinion that id read back in 98, who thinks they are the dogs bollocks like such and such back in 2003, you, there would only be me here.

the reason that a people dont get banned whilly nilly is becuase the mods understand that everyone is different.
we have seen it all before and we are pretty tolerant. there is not going to be ban hammer. there are not going to be bannings for being stupid. there are not going to be bannings bring up the same topics as before. there are not going to bannings because someone thinks that someone is annoying.

if we were to ban people for this and that, then we are accused of being freedom of speech nazis.
of course, now we are just cultivating a forum of shít to other people. well, so be it. we have a very fine line to keep to try and make this forum operate. its really fúcking difficult to be honest. you wouldnt believe how difficult it is to moderate a forum like this.
everyone wants something different. and everyone wants to stamp out what they dont like. and you know, we are know that. and we tolerate the intolerant

so thats pretty much what its about. you can disagree. you can complain all you want. but after hours works like that. we are here to make sure that this forum runs.
if we move something, its because we feel it should be moved.
if its pure drival we delete it. if youre abusive, youre banned.

if i dont like you, if i think you are full of crap, if you have nothing useful to say, just want to talk about your tits and your sexual exploits, your baby, your father, boyfriend, car, or want to speak in the 3rd person, i wont ban you.

and thats why there are very very very few people that i would have as mods.

so, instead of complaining about this and that, if someone wants to actually make some suggestions on how they feel things can work better, then id be delighted to talk about it.

so, less bitching and whinging, and more positive suggestions please.

arbeitsscheuer

WhiteWashMan wrote:

so thats pretty much what its about. you can disagree. you can complain all you want. but after hours works like that. we are here to make sure that this forum runs.
if we move something, its because we feel it should be moved.
if its pure drival we delete it. if youre abusive, youre banned.

if i dont like you, if i think you are full of crap, if you have nothing useful to say, just want to talk about your tits and your sexual exploits, your baby, your father, boyfriend, car, or want to speak in the 3rd person, i wont ban you.

I respect your viewpoint, particularly since you've been a mod here for, ooooh, ages, and appreciate the difficulties you raised in your post.

But for me where I'd disagree with you is what I highlighted in bold. If someone has nothing useful to say, just wants to talk about their tits/sexual exploits/baby/father/boyf/car etc - you won't ban them?

Well... That's just dumb. Sorry mate.