Bird flu in Turkey;

junkyard

While watching the news tonight I couldn't believe my eyes when they came to the part where they were killing sheep and cows in the city streets and chopping them up there and then. Are these guys savages or what? Last week I heard of kids playing football with chickens heads. Its no wonder they're getting disease's with this kind of carry-on. Is this normal behavior in these countries?

Wertz

Oh now you've gone and put me off my kebab :mad:

aidan_walsh

I can't be the only one to find the irony hilarious in a black kinda way, can I?

whiskeyman

junkyard wrote:

Last week I heard of kids playing football with chickens heads.?

Surely that's a fowl ref...

Great pass down the wing...

Wertz

whiskeyman wrote:

Surely that's a fowl ref...

Great pass down the wing...

:v:

Nah Aidan_Walsh...that play on words has been doing the rounds both online and IRL for a few days now...

kippy

Please ,make sure you dont get extremely mixed up......
The killing of the sheep and cows in the streets has absolutely nothing to do with Bird Flu-its apparently some festival that they are having at the moment that has gone on for centurys.
Granted, its not the best time to run a festival but its nothing to do with Bird flu.
Things like this go on in "these kind of countries" just like drinking copious amounts of drinking alcohol and various other pretty pointless pursuits go on in other countries like our own.

junkyard

Yeah but its 2006 now not 1806 ffs they're carrying on like savages. Surely they have a Government that should be cleaning up their act. Are they in the EU or are they joining it? I just find it hard to believe that this is still happening.

slipss

as far as them being savages, I really don't think its any more savage to kill cows on the street yourself than for a bunch of guys in a slaughter house to do it.

As for playing football with chickens heads, it deos seem a bit wierd, but I'm pretty sure you can only catch the bird flu from direct contact with live foul or by consuming their raw eggs.

And no Turkey aren't in the EU.

junkyard

I don't like the idea of killing anything either but surely its done in a humane way and to be honest I really don't want to know if its cruel.:(

LovelyHurling

In all fairness, who cares where the animals are being killed? The animals certainly dont, they have no preference over a garden shed vs an abbatoir, and the fact that theyre being chopped up there and then didnt make much difference to the animal either... theyre not people after all, and besides this is another countries culture. I'm not defending the participant's actions, just saying that abbatoir conditions are effectively no better in Ireland, and chopping up a sheep in public I don't see how that can damage anybody tbh

Its no wonder they're getting disease's with this kind of carry-on.

What diseases? BIRD flu is totally unrelated TO SHEEP AND COWS

aidan_walsh

slipss wrote:

I'm pretty sure you can only catch the bird flu from direct contact with live foul or by consuming their raw eggs.

CDC wrote:

Most cases of avian influenza infection in humans have resulted from direct or close contact with infected poultry (e.g., domesticated chicken, ducks, and turkeys) or surfaces contaminated with secretions and excretions from infected birds.

http://www.cdc.gov/flu/avian/gen-info/qa.htm

WHO wrote:

WHO is aware of recent concerns that the virus could also spread to humans through contact with contaminated poultry products. To date, no epidemiological data suggest that the disease can be transmitted to humans through properly cooked food (even if contaminated with the virus prior to cooking). However, in a few instances, cases have been linked to consumption of dishes made of raw contaminated poultry blood.

http://www.who.int/foodsafety/micro/avian/en/

Eating raw eggs is a possibility, but as for only living fowl, I doubt a virus is going to distinguish its host as living or dead before infecting you...

junkyard

To be honest I wouldn't fancy taking my kids into town shopping some day and find a bunch of savages killing animals and cutting them into pieces in front of us. I'm pretty sure my kids would find it horrific, I know I would. I'm fairly sure that some kind of disease would be spread by these activities.

aidan_walsh

junkyard wrote:

To be honest I wouldn't fancy taking my kids into town shopping some day and find a bunch of savages killing animals and cutting them into pieces in front of us. I'm pretty sure my kids would find it horrific, I know I would. I'm fairly sure that some kind of disease would be spread by these activities.

How can you compare how you would react, since you haven't grown up in that culture, may I ask?

LovelyHurling

junkyard wrote:

I'm fairly sure that some kind of disease would be spread by these activities.

Your grandparents probably experienced this first hand in Ireland, or ate meat killed in a very similar manner.

jay-me

People kill people all the time so don't rant and rave about people slaughtering animals on the street when it seem universaly acceptable throughout for people to slaughter eachother on the street.

Pighead

Pigheads turkish penpal Mustapha has just sent him an email voicing his disgust that the Commission to Inquire into Child Abuse which has been hearing details of how a former Christian Brother was moved between three industrial schools in the 1950s and 1960s and where the brother in question was known to be physically assaulting children is only being heard now.

Mustapha thinks this is vile and disgusting and can't believe Ireland were allowed to stay in the EU.
Oh and he said to say hi to everybody on boards.

LovelyHurling

Pighead wrote:

Pigheads turkish penpal Mustapha has just sent him an email voicing his disgust that the Commission to Inquire into Child Abuse which has been hearing details of how a former Christian Brother was moved between three industrial schools in the 1950s and 1960s and where the brother in question was known to be physically assaulting children is only being heard now.

Mustapha thinks this is vile and disgusting and can't believe Ireland were allowed to stay in the EU.
Oh and he said to say hi to everybody on boards.

Are these people savages or what... is it normal behaviour in these countries?

homah_7ft

Pighead you hit the nail on the head. Or I mean your penpal did

Wertz

junkyard wrote:

I don't like the idea of killing anything either but surely its done in a humane way and to be honest I really don't want to know if its cruel.:(

Since Turkey is 99% sunni muslim, the meat is killed in accordance with halaal, which is a lot more humane than some of the ways emplyed in meat factories in the west...doing it on the street might be a little extreme, but that's what they do. I don't think cruelty comes into it...

Mossy Monk

junkyard wrote:

Yeah but its 2006 now not 1806 ffs they're carrying on like savages. Surely they have a Government that should be cleaning up their act

oh no, a country that does different things to us

Chucky the tree

Mossy Monk wrote:

oh no, a country that does different things to us

Disgraceful, burn them all i say!

kippy

Great post pighead-basicilly got across 100 percent what I was trying to say.

ciaran76

kippy wrote:

Please ,make sure you dont get extremely mixed up......
The killing of the sheep and cows in the streets has absolutely nothing to do with Bird Flu-its apparently some festival that they are having at the moment that has gone on for centurys.
Granted, its not the best time to run a festival but its nothing to do with Bird flu.
Things like this go on in "these kind of countries" just like drinking copious amounts of drinking alcohol and various other pretty pointless pursuits go on in other countries like our own.

Thats right and on the News last night they actually said that too.

I have seen this happening in a few countries I have been in and its a fright the 1st time you see it but you get used to it and its their custom and they have been doing it that way for 100's of years I believe.

Hobbes

junkyard wrote:

To be honest I wouldn't fancy taking my kids into town shopping some day and find a bunch of savages killing animals and cutting them into pieces in front of us.

You never been in a butchers then?

Btw I heard in one country every year they take a goat and put it in a cage and then on top of a pole for two days and declare it king.

I wonder if that country is in the EU.