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To flip or not to flip

  • 10-01-2006 11:54am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭


    I thought this was an interesting article, as much as it's been discussed hundreds of times before:

    http://www.cardplayer.com/poker_magazine/archives/showarticle.php?a_id=15093

    I'd like to know what everyone here feels about this situation. First hand of the WSOP, would you call with QQ knowing your opponent has AK sooted?

    I'd lean towards a laydown, but i'm interested to know what everyone else would do...


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,600 ✭✭✭roryc


    Flippy McFlip from Flipsville. You gotta take your chances


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,047 ✭✭✭Culchie


    Call an All-In?

    In a $5 STT call.

    In the WSOP, it's an easy fold.

    It's also hypothetical and unrealistic, how can you know 100% you are up against AK?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭ianmc38


    Well obviously you can never know 100% (unless your opponent generously flashes you his cards), but we're talking hypothetcially here...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,467 ✭✭✭Norwich Fan Rob


    u have a 50% chance of going out, but if u double up here, your chances of winning, even cashing, increase by what, 5% maybe.
    To make this call, u are a gambler, not a poker player.
    Even in a 6 handed STT, a 50/50 shot to double up does not = doubling your chances of winning, so its always a negative equity move. (let alone a deep stacked tourney over 5/6 days).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,600 ✭✭✭roryc


    If you double up on the first hand, you have an instant advantage over the rest of the table. You say you have a 50% chance of going out to increase your chances of winning by 5%. I might be wrong but surely being 5% closer to winning $10m is better than a 50/50 at losing your $10k entry fee?

    Don't get me wrong, there's no way i would have the balls to make this play in the WSOP, but that doesn't mean its the wrong play. What is the difference between going all in on the first hand or the 1000 hand?

    If it was a few days into the tournament and you had worked yourself up to 100K, and every other player at your table had the same, and another player made the same move with AK vs your Queens, would you call here?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 365 ✭✭ronanp


    QQ surely you have to. Chances are you've the best pre-flop hand at the table every time, give as few people as possible the chance to improve theirs. They're the ones who have to gamble then. Then again, I lose....


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