Saturday the 22nd of October 4004 BC

starn

After reading some of the posts here I'am cuirious to know if anyone hear Accepts Archbishop Usshers research which states the universe came into creation at 6pm on the saturday the 22nd of october 4004 BC. Ussher was the archbishop of Armagh in the mid 18th centuary. He sourced some of the earlist surving bibles and did his best to tie events in the old testement with other sources. This date was printed on the first page of the King James Bible next to Genies up until the twenties.

archdukefranz

How cool is that, a God that makes the world in time for tea

I don't see how you could come to that conclusion scientifically or using the Bible without seriously misunderstanding something

archdukefranz

and oh forgot to mention, wouldn't a young earth person believe God started on a Sunday (on the 7th day he rested (saturday)).

wolfsbane

archdukefranz said:

wouldn't a young earth person believe God started on a Sunday (on the 7th day he rested (saturday)).

I'm not saying Ussher's chronology is precise, but it was a serious attempt to set out the Bible's chronology. There may be problems of ignored generations giving maybe decades or even centuries of difference. It is not really important, as we are not told we need a precise chronology or genealogy. But our estimates must not contradict the parameters laid down in Scripture.

To you point, Saturday at 6pm would have been the start of Sunday, the Jewish day running from 6pm to 6pm rather than our midnight to midnight.

juddd

This is flawed due to the fact that a date is given, the date should be 01/01/0000, also the date implies that time had passed before the creation of the universe, which would be impossible as nothing existed before the creation of everything, unless of course he was working backwards on the calender and just used the date as a reference point indicator.
In any case it is all theory and will never be proven.
But ya never know????

wolfsbane

juddd said:

This is flawed due to the fact that a date is given, the date should be 01/01/0000, also the date implies that time had passed before the creation of the universe, which would be impossible as nothing existed before the creation of everything, unless of course he was working backwards on the calender and just used the date as a reference point indicator.

It is up to the chronographer, I would think. As long as the maths works out. So you could date the 20th Century from your birthday and we would find it accurate. In fact, the Jews do use a Creation Start Date (based on their reckoning of when that was). This is their year 5766.

I'm not sure what you mean by it implying time had passed before the creation of the universe. If you thought he meant the universe was created 4004 years after something, then no. He meant it was created 4004 years before Christ.

Hagar

If this is Jewish year 5766 take away 2006 leaves 3760 bc as creation date ???

wolfsbane

Hagar said:

If this is Jewish year 5766 take away 2006 leaves 3760 bc as creation date ???

Yep, they obviously have some differences with Ussher. But it's an academic matter anyway, as we are not told we need to know. It's just interesting. A bit like the birth date of Christ - we have no commandment to observe it, so we don't need to know, but I find the debate interesting (4bc? 1bc? September? December?).