And who said AA was crap?

kirving

I took a US Black Hawk out of the Sky about an hour ago. Probably one of the first times I've hit something using AA(and managed to shoot it down)!

Drapper

Kevin Irving wrote:

I took a US Black Hawk out of the Sky about an hour ago. Probably one of the first times I've hit something using AA(and managed to shoot it down)!

new patch is making the anti air guns stronger!!

projectmayhem

you can get good hits with AA when black hawks are heading in your general direction because they're about as manoeverable as a pregnant elephant

whiskeyman

yeah, I've never had any problems with AA against choppers.
Just hold off til they drop their flares... then whack 'em guuud!!
Most pilots release the flares the second they get a lock on

It's the jets that are impossible to shoot out of the sky...

AnCapaillMor

I've taken down more copters with tank shells than with AA sites. Then again thats 3 V 0.

Ponster

As already said, Blackhawks are usually easy enough to take out with AA, depending on in which direction theyre flying in. It's jets that are the problem.

So far I've taken out about 115 kills in Air Defense. Some were ground troops true, but usuing AA properly is a skill, like other aspects of the game. Trying it a couple of times and giving up when you don't hit anything blaming it on the coding isn't an excuse IMHO.

spooky donkey

Ive taken down a lot of choppers with AA but I dont think I ever got a jet. Damaged the odd jet but most jet poilots repair them easilly after 1 or 2 hits. Ive gotton a lot of Black hawlks on that level where they come off the carrier and head to the south beack with a crane on it ( Dalian plant thats the level ) As they come in to take the point. I have even killed a black hawlk with the AA guns ment to take out tanks the gound defence one. Im also told to get yer air defence medal or ground defence medal you only need to sit in a gun for 3 mins, or 1.5 if you get a kill. Not sure how true that is though, havent tried it.

Big Nelly

Taking a chopper down with AA is easy. The problem is to take a plane down. I have taken about 20 tops in my time and that was usually pilots that where not the best. Any good pilot can dodge them no problem

Keyzer

Yep, AA sucks.
Vs Heli's its not too bad, i'd prefer a mounted machine gun though...
Vs Jets, forget about it... although in singleplayer I notice I get shot down every so often by the linebacker/tunguska...

This patch better level the playing ground.
If your good in plane the only thing you need worry about is another pilot shooting you down and crashing....

AnCapaillMor

I was on Dalian plant last night, and a chinese pilot there was 63 for 1 by the end of the map. And i'm pretty sure the 1 was when he crashed. some maps need more AA. Mashtuur can be a joke sometimes a good heli pilot and 2 good gunners are practically invincible in it, just stay high and keep going back to base for repair.

spooky donkey

Desert Combat had the best anti air I thought. The anti armour had a rocket that was ment to take out air craft. After a little prative ya had a fair chance of taking out a plane. Not bad for an infanrary man. Even In BFV there was some skill to taking out jets with the LAW, i can do it and know a few who can. But BFV did anti air well too now that I think of it. The NVA had the sa7 and the US had the mutts.

MiCr0

it would be nice to see so type of AA as a handweapon - ala the anti-tank

doubt it will happen though

GreeBo

I find that the mistake most people make in AA is to actually sit in it looking for something to hit.
Best way is to stand beside it with your eyes open, then when you see someone and they are near, hop in and blast them before the know it.

Drapper

MiCr0 wrote:

it would be nice to see so type of AA as a handweapon - ala the anti-tank

doubt it will happen though

Does this exist in reality? think it would be fantastic too The Engineer could have a mobile AA unit? He's weak enought as it is !!

Zulu

Drapper wrote:

Does this exist in reality? think it would be fantastic too The Engineer could have a mobile AA unit? He's weak enought as it is !!

Of course it does! Stinger missles!

Drapper

Zulu wrote:

Of course it does! Stinger missles!

Would be nice to include this !

Big Nelly

spooky donkey wrote:

Desert Combat had the best anti air I thought. The anti armour had a rocket that was ment to take out air craft. After a little prative ya had a fair chance of taking out a plane. Not bad for an infanrary man. Even In BFV there was some skill to taking out jets with the LAW, i can do it and know a few who can. But BFV did anti air well too now that I think of it. The NVA had the sa7 and the US had the mutts.

AA in BFV was class. I loved being the NVA on flaming dart. Hide in the hut at the edge of the water and wait for chopper and planes to come over. SA7 and boom. Your out of it. Made it alot easier for infantry to take out choppers

Zulu

Drapper wrote:

Would be nice to include this !

It's be a nice upgrade for the AT infantry.

MiCr0

vote carried so

can some one tell ea so that they include this in the next patch?? ;-)

Drapper

send them the link ! http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2054871315 lol's

jeawan

Kevin Irving wrote:

I took a US Black Hawk out of the Sky about an hour ago. Probably one of the first times I've hit something using AA(and managed to shoot it down)!

aye you can hit a blackhawk and kill it , ive killed a few with them , but planes are alot harder to hit and the choppers have to be close are you never hit , i fired 10 missles yesterday at a chopper and hit it once

Deacon Blues

I haven't played any of the previous BFs, but I can't understand why there isn't a shoulder launched AA missile for infantry, like the Stinger or SA-7. It's an essential component of any modern army, and the fixed sites are nobbled by being placed beside building etc. Pilots usually bomb them first, and then have free reign.

EOA_Mushy

Drapper wrote:

new patch is making the anti air guns stronger!!

STRONGER!!!...
If it doesnt hit any thing whats the point. I have only managed to hit one chopper with the damn thing, and that time it was hovering in front of me....

AnCapaillMor

The patch isimproving AA's lock-on as well apparently.

jaggeh

they should change flares to chaff rather than diverting the missile it should make it explode. im sick and tired of my missiles diverting and taking out a packed chopper. Humerous as it is.

spooky donkey

Drapper wrote:

Does this exist in reality? think it would be fantastic too The Engineer could have a mobile AA unit? He's weak enought as it is !!

SUre in Nam the NVA took out phantoms with SA7`s and that was 30 years ago. Next year when the war on wake Island actually happens they will have this for sure. Lets hope the US army have all their equipment all patch up.

Jumpy

GreeBo wrote:

I find that the mistake most people make in AA is to actually sit in it looking for something to hit.
Best way is to stand beside it with your eyes open, then when you see someone and they are near, hop in and blast them before the know it.

I find locking them, wait about 3 seconds, they will drop flares. Then fire.
The flares have dissipated and they cant realease more for a few seconds. Always gets em.
Taken down hundreds this way.

Agent47

The only jet i have ever taken down with AA is wen my rockets locked onto ally plane Is it me or is FF damage considerably higher than enemy damage, team hits always seem to kill in one!

AnCapaillMor

How the f does one get his AA badge. I basically ruined a round trying to get one, is it 10 mins in one go in a round or a total of 10. anyway was on the oilfields one, and almost immediately took down the 2 chinese planes, with the AA vehicle. Musta been a fluke because i took out SFA after that apart from one of 2 ground troops. I spent most of the round in the friggin thing trying to get my badge.

Ruffty^

Helo are bs, I hit a blackhawk twice with one of these

and it just flies off....:mad: I think there must hav been engineers in or somethin. Tanks should have amour piercing and high explosive rounds, like in forgotten hope (a mod of bf1942). The AP should tear helos in half, and b deployed when encountering armour and HE should have massive splash damage. I mean if you miss your enemy soldier by a few feet, he just runs off with barely any damage, same with hand grenades.

And alot of ground defence sites, both AA and TOW missles sites are put in the WORST places ever.
E.g. Play zatar wetlands and look at where some of the TOW sites are. I was in the base below the second airfield (which is neutral at the start) and an apc rolls in our base. I (a sniper) hoped in the TOW site, the apc was about 5feet in front of me. But there was a small wall infront of the TOW. You know the sandbag walls? God IT was RETARDED, I fired about 4 missles, but I had to aim up to get it over this f%cking wall and I couldn`t get the missle down fast enough, since the apc was right in front of me, MAXIMUM FRUSTRATION

Basically fix the ground defence sites, it would be nice if it was possible to shoot down jets aswell, and increase splash damage of all explosions by at LEAST twice!
That would make it a better game.

jonski

I have no idea why there was a need for this thread............I never miss with the AA.....never !!!!!! ..................Now if I could just hit one of the enemies planes or choppers that would be great .