Is a woman named after her mother called junior?

rubadub

I know a few guys named after their fathers, they use jnr on postage only and maybe on official forms, usually they use variations of the name, (father is michael, son is mick or mike, rather than michael junior). I have never heard of a girl having the same name as her mother though. Is the correct term also junior for them? do you know any with the same name? Is junior an actual legal term?

Gaillimhtaibhse

How amusing that you should bring this up!:D

seamus

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suffix_%28name%29

"Junior" is an informal, non-legal term. It's usually used purely to distinguish sons from their fathers, but as in the link above, it has on occasion been used for daughters.

I don't remember a time in my life where I ever called anyone "Junior".

It does seem to be common enough though that while the first son would often have the father's first name, the first daughter would rarely have the mother's name. Often the grandmother's name (on the father's side) was reserved for the first daughter's name. This is probably why you don't hear of many women named after their mother.

Ravage1616

I've the same name as my father and never liked people calling me junior! On all my post i'd put the inital of my middle name, so stops him from opening it!

Stench Blossoms

For women its different because if the daughter got a letter eg it would be Miss Mary Murphy and it was for the mother it would be Mrs Mary Murphy. Men on the other hand are called Mr. so the Junior would be needed to tell the difference.

rubadub

seamus wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suffix_%28name%29

"Junior" is an informal, non-legal term. It's usually used purely to distinguish sons from their fathers, but as in the link above, it has on occasion been used for daughters.

that wikipedia thing is good, a bit complicated with many variations. I never knew about the middle name bit, I always did wonder why people used a middle initial, I thought some just did it as a shortening of an actual double christian name (rather than a middle name), like john james smith being john j smith or JJ. I always notice it in film credits where people would tend to use more formal titles, you see lots of Sr, Jr, and now I think of it lots of middle initials.
I would prefer a initial, Junior sounds alright for a young lad but a president called junior does seem right.

Shabadu

Not so Orla, both myself and my Mother use the prefix Ms.

Er, we have different first names though. >_>

rubadub

seamus wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suffix_%28name%29

"Junior" is an informal, non-legal term. It's usually used purely to distinguish sons from their fathers, but as in the link above, it has on occasion been used for daughters.

that wikipedia thing is good, a bit complicated with many variations. I never knew about the middle name bit, I always did wonder why people used a middle initial, I thought some just did it as a shortening of an actual double christian name (rather than a middle name), like john james smith being john j smith or JJ. I always notice it in film credits where people would tend to use more formal titles, you see lots of Sr, Jr, and now I think of it lots of middle initials.
I would prefer a initial, Junior sounds alright for a young lad but a president called junior does seem right.

orla wrote:

For women its different because if the daughter got a letter eg it would be Miss Mary Murphy and it was for the mother it would be Mrs Mary Murphy. Men on the other hand are called Mr. so the Junior would be needed to tell the difference.

never thought of that either, do you know of any? I sold something on ebay the other day and it was addressed to a "miss" which I left out when I wrote it. Lots of unmarried mothers these days though, and many will use Ms. even if they know they are a Mrs or Miss.

Shabadu wrote:

Not so Orla, both myself and my Mother use the prefix Ms.

Er, we have different first names though. >_>

how do you manage your post so? initials?

Shabadu

We have different first names.

rubadub

Shabadu wrote:

We have different first names.

LOL time for me to go back to school to learn to read properly

solskjaer20

lol I've never heard anyone called "Junior" in Ireland.

I know a few people with the sae name as their father, but they're called Seán Óg or Brian Óg.

Surely its a very American/English thing to refer to someone as "Junior"??

Earthhorse

rubadub wrote:

I always notice it in film credits where people would tend to use more formal titles, you see lots of Sr, Jr, and now I think of it lots of middle initials.

Well, for certain actors unions you can't have the same name as another member hence Richard E. Grant (and I'm sure many others).

bullrunner

my sister and my mom have the same first name... my sister used to get post as 'jnr' ...espec from the gov (eg tax details,voter cards etc)

marshmallow

I've never actually come across a mother and daughter with the same first names.....

With any guys I know who have the same first name as their father, there's usually a variation e.g. Andrew & Andy ; Robert & Rob/Bob

astrofool

Mary II, Mary III, Mary IV etc. is the way to go..

Scarinae

Well my boyfriend and his Dad have the same name and I was always afraid his Dad would open my letters by accident (it was a long-distance relationship for the first two years) and so I always stuck a Jr at the end of his name when I was addressing the envelopes. I wouldn't use Jr in any other context though