Harassment in the workplace

johnboybob · 22-12-2005 4:06pm #1

First things first.
I'm not a homophobe.....
BUT......

Some guy squeezed my ass in work last week.
I decked him.

I'm almost certain I'm gonna lose my job as hr are pressing for assault.

If this had been a woman, and I had been the offender and she punched me, would she be in my current state?

No...she'd be suing for harassment, thats what she'd be doin.

What do ye think I should do?

Stompbox · 22-12-2005 4:10pm

Maybe he was just being friendly.You see guys squeeze each others ass the whole.Hell, it's even happened me in school and when playing rubgy but I don't deck them.

spockety · 22-12-2005 4:11pm

If HR try to do anything about it, threaten to sue for sexual assault.

Actually, screw that, you probably should just sue anyway. Make a few bucks for yourself, and highlight the plight of the male worker in these situations.

Defcon 5 · 22-12-2005 4:16pm

Johnny Boy are you sure your not just a lttle scared of your sexuality after all it wouldnt be the first time boards was used as an outlet to cry for help....is there anything you would like to share with us????

Kali · 22-12-2005 4:19pm

Sweet wrote:

Maybe he was just being friendly.You see guys squeeze each others ass the whole.Hell, it's even happened me in school and when playing rubgy but I don't deck them.

Maybe in a overly homosexual sport like rugby its ok in the showers, but its definitely not ok in the workplace. Tell HR the guys actions were totally inappropriate and should be dealt with, sure you over-reacted but so might anyone in your case.

johnboybob · 22-12-2005 4:22pm

I just shared it with you.
Now if your sharing the fact that you like the touch of a mans hand on your hoop thats quite fine, maybe you should join a "male" foxy boxin club.

That way you can express all of your opinions, but to be honest I'd say they would be better suited to your club.

astonvilla · 22-12-2005 4:26pm

Lads all i have to say is................ SHUT UP YOU 2 QUEERS,

johnboybob · 22-12-2005 4:28pm

astonvilla wrote:

Lads all i have to say is................ SHUT UP YOU 2 QUEERS,

Defcon I think this guy is confused and that he meant to direct this at you.

unfortunately guys, this is not the way I wanted this to go.
It was honest opinions or experiences that I was after.

Defcon 5 · 22-12-2005 4:31pm

JB was that a dig at me because if that is your attitude you can go f*ck
yourself my spidey sence is telling me your thread isnt exactly honest would I be right????..people dont like being messed about and you sound like someone I would love to see eating his food through a straw for at least a couple of months ..defcon 5 has now been initiated :mad:

astonvilla · 22-12-2005 4:32pm

OK then.

Honest opinion is you and Defcon need to get your cocks out of each others browns.

Only an idea lads.......

Defcon 5 · 22-12-2005 4:33pm

I'm finished here people enjoy your pointless rant..IDIOTS!!

Beruthiel · 22-12-2005 4:35pm

astonvilla wrote:

Honest opinion is you and Defcon need to get your cocks out of each others browns...

aston
you are very close to being banned
I suggest you calm down
B

johnboybob · 22-12-2005 4:35pm

Now I could be wrong on this.
Defcock 5, I'll war with you at a later stage.

Right now I think Ass-ton-licka needs to be thought a lesson.

What do you think?

Defcon 5 · 22-12-2005 4:49pm

Nice one Beruthiel someone needs to take action against people like aston his childhood ignorance and lack of respect is without doubt clearly displayed with that last submission...I suggest a total ban on aston he cant be allowed to post such vulgarities!!! :mad:

astonvilla · 22-12-2005 4:52pm

What the hell you on about??????

johnboybob · 22-12-2005 4:53pm

Your not regretful.
Thats exactly the response you came here lookin for.

Why don't you join some different forums.
Maybe "Which Lube?" would be the one for you.

Aston...I do think you should ease up on the language.

Defcon is obviously very sensitive at this time.

ballooba · 22-12-2005 4:55pm

Eh.. Defcon 5.. no one cares if youre gay. You may feel like announcing it on every thread in boards but it's no reason for trolling.

TBH I think the OP probably has no come back. Not really any reason for violence in the workplace. If you had used proper procedure and channels you may have had a case against the pincher but tbh I reckon you're goosed now.

They'll probably see what he was doing as not as bad as what you did. i.e. make love not war.

If this happened in my work I'd piss myself. Sorry.

The Lime · 22-12-2005 4:57pm

Im going to agree with Defcon,astonvilla is a bit of a trouble maker.A Ban would be the right way.

As for Johnboy try to talk to guy try to explain to him that it was a mistake.

Defcon 5 · 22-12-2005 5:02pm

Will someone please shut these monkeys up both aston and now jb have some how began to merge into one giant patch of monkey spunk clearly you two are without a brain cell ...Is there anyone outthere that shares my opinion..i think we all know boards would be a better place without these idiots probably fresh from sucking there momma's teat ,the only place for two is the Zoo!!!!! Now be a good pair of monkeys and f*ck off nobodies interested!!! :cool:

johnboybob · 22-12-2005 5:03pm

Thanks for that Lime.

Seriously.

Thanks.

johnboybob · 22-12-2005 5:09pm

Look Defcon.
Quit the ****.
Your obviously offended by the topic of converstaion.
Pretending to be more intelligent than you are is not hiding that fact from any of us.

Your trying to sass everyone in the discussion with your "maybe" this and "ban" that.

I think you should probably lay off the browsing for a while.
Your hand is probably cramped and I'd say your almost blind from eh.."natural causes"..eh yeah thats it..."natural causes".
An etch-a-sketch is probably more appropriate for your talents.

A nice picture for mommy might be called for.

OMcGovern · 22-12-2005 5:34pm

>Some guy squeezed my ass in work last week.
>I decked him.
>I'm not a homophobe.....
>BUT......

What's your definition of a homophobe ?
You're either a homophobe and/or have anger management issues.

Under the Irish labour laws, a company has to provide its employees with safe co-workers, otherwise they're legally liable. You decked a guy....
If you happened to do that again, then the company are wide open to being sued for an unsafe working environment/co-workers.
The directors themselves could be hauled up in court in such a case.
It's 99% likely that you're fired, and HR are just building up the evidence and paperwork to cover themselves.

Not sure what you expect out of this situation ?

Decking the guy is not a proportional response to what he did, whether it was serious or messing cos he knew how wound up you'd be.

Sexual harrassment of women is more serious because they're more physically threatened by it...

If you're hard to replace at work, you might survive.
if you're disposable, then start cleaning out your desk.

woody · 22-12-2005 7:04pm

You did the right thing, if it were me I would have made sure he did'nt get up, sue the c*nts, as a matter of fact to a degree it could be classed as sexual assault and you were defending yourself.

Make them pay dude :cool:

woody · 22-12-2005 7:07pm

OMcGovern wrote:

>Some guy squeezed my ass in work last week.
>I decked him.
>I'm not a homophobe.....
>BUT......

What's your definition of a homophobe ?
You're either a homophobe and/or have anger management issues.

Under the Irish labour laws, a company has to provide its employees with safe co-workers, otherwise they're legally liable. You decked a guy....
If you happened to do that again, then the company are wide open to being sued for an unsafe working environment/co-workers.
The directors themselves could be hauled up in court in such a case.
It's 99% likely that you're fired, and HR are just building up the evidence and paperwork to cover themselves.

Not sure what you expect out of this situation ?

Decking the guy is not a proportional response to what he did, whether it was serious or messing cos he knew how wound up you'd be.

Sexual harrassment of women is more serious because they're more physically threatened by it...

If you're hard to replace at work, you might survive.
if you're disposable, then start cleaning out your desk.

Bolllocks your saying women have more rights then men that is the biggest load of sh1te I have heard, what happened to equality, whats saying this bloke was shaken by this and disturbed and he has a case he acted in self defence to a sexual assault and men can be sexually harassed by both sex's so get over yourself, men feel threatened or are we all so hard

OMcGovern · 22-12-2005 9:37pm

woody wrote:

Bolllocks your saying women have more rights then men that is the biggest load of sh1te I have heard, what happened to equality, whats saying this bloke was shaken by this and disturbed and he has a case he acted in self defence to a sexual assault and men can be sexually harassed by both sex's so get over yourself, men feel threatened or are we all so hard

Woody, this is not an equality issue.
Women are vulnerable to sexual attack, and certain types of sexual harassment in the workplace could be perceived as a prelude to an attack outside of working hours. I seriously doubt that the original poster thought he was in any physical danger...... he freaked out because he couldn't handle the situation like a proper adult, with a certain amount of emotion control.

Violence and aggression are not acceptable in the workplace.

If "Johnboybob" was able to deck your man, then he was well able to take care of himself.

woody · 22-12-2005 9:40pm

Sexual misconduct by someone is not acceptable he responded in the right fashion to a degenerate of a dubious sexuality.

He should have called the police as it is actually sexual assault.

Also if you have'nt noticed a MAN also can get attacked and raped.... So I will say it again Equality and anyone is prone to attack not just women.

OMcGovern · 22-12-2005 10:17pm

woody wrote:

Sexual misconduct by someone is not acceptable he responded in the right fashion to a degenerate of a dubious sexuality.

He should have called the police as it is actually sexual assault.

Also if you have'nt noticed a MAN also can get attacked and raped.... So I will say it again Equality and anyone is prone to attack not just women.

I see you're exercising your equal right to be as hysterical and over-dramatic about a minor incident as a woman.
And it was just a minor incident which could've been easily dealt with.
There are proper adult ways of dealing with awkward social situations, without resorting to mindless violence. JohnBoyBob will probably see that lesson written down on a P45...

BuffyBot · 22-12-2005 11:27pm

Sexual misconduct by someone is not acceptable he responded in the right fashion to a degenerate of a dubious sexuality.

He should have called the police as it is actually sexual assault.

Also if you have'nt noticed a MAN also can get attacked and raped.... So I will say it again Equality and anyone is prone to attack not just women.

Are you some kind of advanced level of amoeba? You do NOT go around punching people in the workplace - no matter what. If you feel "sexually harassed" you go to HR/management and do something about it. You do not punch people.

I think you seem to have issues here which are clouding your point of view. It has nothing to do with someone being a "degenerate of dubious sexuality", and the fact that you are crying "equality" in the same breath is jaw-dropping in it's stupidity.

ballooba · 23-12-2005 10:48am

The OP will get the sack. No doubt about it.

The same as if I was walking down the street today and someone walked up and punched me. If I pulled out a gun and shot them in the head I would go to jail. Shooting someone in the head is not an appropraite response to getting punched.

johnboybob · 23-12-2005 1:57pm

The point I'm making is that the difference between men and women here is unjust.

I'm not saying what I did was right or wrong.

I'm just making a point on it.

It has come to light since yest that I'm not the first to fall victim to his wandering hands.

It seems that because he is gay, they don't want a "case" against them for discrimination if they let him go.

Fair huh?

BuffyBot · 23-12-2005 3:12pm

How so?

If the company has any kind of decent HR policy, sexual harassment is sexual harassment, no matter who is involved. The same goes for policies about violence in the workplace. So I don't believe there is a bias here, more a percieved one on your part.

astonvilla · 23-12-2005 3:17pm

So let me get this right this fella is now gay..... Yeah????

How about finding him and kicking the sh*t out of him.

He obvuiously just wanted a cheap boner by grabbing your ass in the first place!!!!!

Bloody Fag!!!!

OMcGovern · 23-12-2005 3:33pm

johnboybob wrote:

The point I'm making is that the difference between men and women here is unjust.

It seems that because he is gay, they don't want a "case" against them for discrimination if they let him go.
Fair huh?

Ahhh.... you poor delicate flower.....
I recommend you make a cup of herbal tea, and have a good soak in the bath while listening to some "Dido" music. Okay... that's my sarcastic amusement sorted :-)

If that gay guy has done this before, and it has been brought to the attention of HR, then that could well be his 2nd of 3 "strikes".
To fire someone you normally need to give them something like 2 written warnings, then you can let them go.
"Gross misconduct", like punching is grounds for instant dismissal.

Best you can hope for is "to bring that guy down with you"... get him fired too.

the_syco · 23-12-2005 5:36pm

The punching is a no-no, except in self defense. So he slapped your ass, you could have just reported it. Before you do get sacked for it, write a letter of complant to HR about getting your ass fondeled by a male work colleague. Don't mention that you know that they're making a case agasint you. Do mention that although you're sorry for your actions, you feel that you have the right to work without having to worry about getting sexually assaulted.

nedatorian · 24-12-2005 5:22pm

100 % johnboy. Should have kick him when he was down too!!

If we all wet to work everyday to get our holes groped where would we get time to get any work done.

Just cuz that fag thinks he can go around feeling other blokes arses all day doesnt mean you should be the victim here!!

I know we all get our jollies out of goin around feeling young ladies up but this is outrageous. Same sex groping is a sick mans game if you ask me!! :mad:

your a sick bunch of fockers!!!

johnboybob · 24-12-2005 6:08pm

I have to say that I do kinda feel like the victim here.
What was his story?
Why would he do that to me?
I don't have breasts...

astonvilla · 24-12-2005 6:25pm

like i have said b4 its coz he is a filthy fag who wanted a cheap boner!!!!

Simple as that.....

biko · 26-12-2005 1:21am

astonvilla wrote:

like i have said b4 its coz he is a filthy fag who wanted a cheap boner

F*** off dirty troll!

[Jackass] · 26-12-2005 2:00pm

Contact your solicitor, arranange a meeting with HR, this guy & his solicitor if he wants & you with yours.

Basicly push for an agreements that you wont sue both the company and this man if they drop the charges, but i cant see you not losing your job over this...but at least try to save your own skin before you go...

By the way decking someone in work is far worse than touching someones ass...regardless of taking the piss or in a gay advance....

BrownFiend · 26-12-2005 2:43pm

well i say that it is the other way round...

Whats the chances of been mentallly scared for life by gettn a punch!!
Not much..

Gettn groped and felt up, been afraid of future contact with male work collegues and therefore making it difficult to work in any job with blokes for teh fear of gettn oyour brown felt up?? and possibly worse!!

I'd punch you cuz you are prob the type of "GUY" who would go around feeling up your male work collegues in the pub at a christrmas party, letting on , "oops, sorry i didnt ment to feel your tool there.... i only rubed my hands against it cuz i'm obviously soooo drunk"..

Ye clown.

Ye should go give yourself a punch---- in the crotch.
:eek:

Ego-boast · 26-12-2005 2:52pm

BrownFiend eh?? interesting name, i wonder does it have anything to do with the actual act of anal penetration??

Mind you BrownFiend makes a valid point. I would much rather recieve a punch rather than getting my bum and/or lad fondled by an overtly gay collegue, at least with a punch it might hurt for a while, but you'll be able to get over it and not have any further hung ups.

IN relation to jOHNNYBOYBOBS original statement i believe he was justified in his actions, sexual abuse is as much a crime as physical abuse.

If it where to happen again (which is unlikely) i'd dance on his f**kin head!!!

johnboybob · 26-12-2005 6:19pm

the only prob is....
The guy is also black and in a wheelie chair...
Looks bad for me huh?

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