Dextrose

cousin_borat

I usually take about 10 Grammes of Dextrose post workout along with 30 Grammes of Whey and a heaped teaspoon of Glutamine. Is this enough Dextrose or too much? Does anybody find the addition of Dextrose beneficial post workout?

Dragan

It's really just another carbs source, the insulin spike should allow you to absorb other things better, i.e creatine.

Also as the dextrose is broken down good and fast it will replace liver glycogen, allowing other sources to make it to the muscles.

cousin_borat

I was under the impression that fructose was used to replace liver glycogen post workout and that the glucose went directly to your muscles?

RPGGAMER

cousin_borat wrote:

I usually take about 10 Grammes of Dextrose post workout along with 30 Grammes of Whey and a heaped teaspoon of Glutamine. Is this enough Dextrose or too much? Does anybody find the addition of Dextrose beneficial post workout?

sidenote: glycogen depletion/synthesis etc has little if any baring on protein synthesis. goal of carbs is anabolic/anticatabolic

its not near enough carbs. 10g dextrose. its just like glucose practically. the function of the carbs posttraining is to release insulin, if that is your goal for muscle growth and to stop catabolism then you need waaay more. how much carbs does it take for a good rise in insulin? i'd use about 100g personally. now fructose is a right different ballgame. its got so much BS going on with it nowadays as a magic sugar or somesuch for athletes. they EVEN USE IT IN DIABETIC JAM ffs!!! fructose is only really useful if your glycogen stores are depleted (RARE IN MOST GYM GOERS) where its indeed used for glycogen resynthesis. otherwise its usually shunted directly to the liver and not metabolised directly.the liver then releases triglyceride fats into the blood which actually lower insulin sensitivity in the tissues like muscle. Fructose has been researched much since the 70's and on the whole athetes and people shuold be VERY aware of how it works. Otherwise it makes getting fat very easy and muscle gains very hard. America is a great example. read up on how glucose fructose syrup and high fructose corn syrup has exasperated the obesity epidemic. thats it really just remember fructose is not metabolismed like the other sugars. Makes sense on the whole. fructose occurs in nature in small amounts in fruit with fibre and water and not on the scales of today...

cousin_borat

Thanks RPGAMER,

RPGGAMER wrote:

its not near enough carbs. 10g dextrose. its just like glucose practically. the function of the carbs posttraining is to release insulin, if that is your goal for muscle growth and to stop catabolism then you need waaay more. how much carbs does it take for a good rise in insulin? i'd use about 100g personally.

As is:
Immiedately Post workout:
1.5 scoops ON Whey
~5g L-glutamine
10 g dextrose
Vit C

Post Workout Meal + 1 hour
Carb source
chicken/lean beef
veg

I guess my question is whether I should be taking 25-45g of dextrose immiedately post workout and remaining carbs in post workout meal later?

the liver then releases triglyceride fats into the blood which actually lower insulin sensitivity in the tissues like muscle. Fructose has been researched much since the 70's and on the whole athetes and people shuold be VERY aware of how it works. Otherwise it makes getting fat very easy and muscle gains very hard

triglyceride fats stored in adipocyte cells. Have been reading up on this since starting to take CLA's to inhibit the storage of triglyceride in these cells.

ronbyrne2005

consume at least .75gram of whey and .75 gram of dextrose/glucose for every kilogramme you weigh.
so 100kg man should take around 75grams of protein and same of whey immediately after workout

RPGGAMER

cousin_borat wrote:

Thanks RPGAMER,


As is:
Immiedately Post workout:
1.5 scoops ON Whey
~5g L-glutamine
10 g dextrose
Vit C

Post Workout Meal + 1 hour
Carb source
chicken/lean beef
veg

I guess my question is whether I should be taking 25-45g of dextrose immiedately post workout and remaining carbs in post workout meal later?


triglyceride fats stored in adipocyte cells. Have been reading up on this since starting to take CLA's to inhibit the storage of triglyceride in these cells.

i wouldnt say 25g unless you're a pygmy. basically what you can take from the research is that it is very difficult to store carbs as fat during after training and one should exploit this. fat burning(yes with weights too!) is still going on long after you've stopped. as far as one of these studies is concerned subjects could eat as much as 500g with little fat gain. so to sum it up low carbing is fine in the evening but at breakfast and around activity eat as much as you can handle. me for example: i'm 115kg and i eat/drink about 100g during/before training with 50g whey, BCAA(sometimes), Creatine(sometimes), glutamine(when i need it) and a pile of pills like V C and E and ALA for example. and a 200g of carbs serving in a meal asap as soon as i get home.

triglyceride fats stored in adipocyte cells. Have been reading up on this since starting to take CLA's to inhibit the storage of triglyceride in these cells.[/QUOTE]

as for the triglycerides they do many things. i dont think CLA is cost effective and wouldnt have it in your menu.

dont get caught up too much with supplements. instead read more on your training and sport and get tougher mentally.

as for the triglycerides they do many things. i dont think CLA is cost effective and wouldnt have it in your menu.

dont get caught up too much with supplements. instead read more on your training and sport and get tougher mentally.

you cant simplify human physiology. thats the hard thing about these posts. its just not black and white where supplement x does this or that. everything is so intertwined and reacts with other sytems and it just drives me mental.

Le Rack

I only read the first couple of posts cuz I seen big words I didn't unerstand, but I always make up a glucose drink to bring to heavy training, a few mouthfuls during and as much as needed after usually does me the world of good... plenty of water with it of course....
sorry if this has been complete spam...

pwd

Dextrose is glucose - just a different name for the same thing.

10g is not enough