$2/$4 PL Omaha hand.

Lafortezza

PL $2/$4

Hero ($671) limps UTG with Ac 8c Ad 5s

UTG+1 who posted after just joining the table checks.

UTG+2 ($456) raises pot to $26

4 folds, I call, UTG+1 folds. Two of us to the flop with $65 in the middle.

UTG+2 is about the tightest player I've ever seen on the Party $400. I've about 250 hands on him on Omaha Tracker and his preflop raise is 1%, with zero preflop raises from the first three positions. So his raise here is an uber-premium hand. AAxxss or better, KJKJds, 6789ds and not much else. In my view it's only AAxx highly coordinated since the table is LAG like a fox (even though I'm holding the other AA).

Any way.

Flop: K 7 3 rainbow.

I check, Villain pots for $65, I check-raise pot to $260.


Is this standard given the information? Does anyone do anything different preflop, like folding?

RoundTower

This is perfect. I don't use Omaha Tracker or anything like that but it appears that he's only raised twice preflop in 25 rounds of the table (it is 1% of total hands, not 1% of the time when he enters the pot, right?) So like you say he definitely has AA and since he is so tight he will definitely fold them here. If he somehow has AAKK good for him.

Lafortezza

RoundTower wrote:

This is perfect. I don't use Omaha Tracker or anything like that but it appears that he's only raised twice preflop in 25 rounds of the table (it is 1% of total hands, not 1% of the time when he enters the pot, right?) So like you say he definitely has AA and since he is so tight he will definitely fold them here. If he somehow has AAKK good for him.

It means that in any hand where he voluntarily put money in the pot preflop either by raising, calling a raise or completeing the SB he has raised 1% of the time.

If he had KKxx I think he would have played it slower when headsup and on such a drawless board.

RoundTower

OK he's very tight so he's probably only played 50 or less of those 250 hands given that the table has been aggressive. Since he's raised less than 1% of those 50 hands, he hasn't raised at all preflop. Then you have to put him on aces, probably good aces, and pick him off like this.

It would be terrible play for him to bet more with AA here than with KK; since you can't have any draw he doesn't have to bet the whole pot anyway, but there's no harm in always betting the pot on the flop. OK, he could be playing terribly, but at least you know he is tight, so you have to raise him here.

I probably play this the same preflop, I would already be planning to bet or check-raise the flop. If the table was really aggressive I would have opened for $18 and if there was a reraise, stick it all in, but generally you don't want to play a medium sized multiway pot out of position here.

careca

I think you played it well considering the information you have on villian. Problem is what are the other two cards in his hand if he has AAxx. As you say you can almost rule out KK because he would be mad to bet the pot with this holding, but what about 77 or 33.

Its worth a shot at the raise but if he comes back over the top I reckon your beat.

Lafortezza

careca wrote:

Its worth a shot at the raise but if he comes back over the top I reckon your beat.

That's the danger, if Villain raises all in I have to call since there's so much money in the middle. I'd really be calling to tie against AAxx and praying that he doesn't have KKxx.

careca

lafortezza wrote:

That's the danger, if Villain raises all in I have to call since there's so much money in the middle. I'd really be calling to tie against AAxx and praying that he doesn't have KKxx.

Ya, all or nothing really. So what happened, he must have folded ?

Lafortezza

Yeah, he had a long think and folded, I didn't show.