Manners....sorry what now?

funk-you

Manners, where have they gone nowadays? i'm not talking about lying your cape in a puddle for your lady to keep her feet dry type chivalry but just basic manners and unwritten rules of our fair society.

Most people would hold the door for the next person coming through but then there are the people who will actually use up more effort sliding their way through a closing door so as not to hold it, or just people who'll blatantly not even bother. When someone holds a door for me i'll at least give an acknowledgement and a "thanks" but this too seems to have gone out the window.

The word please has all but disappeared.

When you get on a bus it was always customary to let other people off before getting on and when you do get on you do so on the left hand side to allow people past or not get in peoples way while you pay.

People just walking by as a lady tries to get a pram and a load of shopping bags up onto a bus but ive seen people just look at them like " Fu(ks sake get out of my way, you're holding me up" instead of taking the 5 seconds to help them lift the pram etc...

People cutting in line is one that really kills me and then go on to argue even though they know full well that what they're doing isn't tolerated anywhere.

I'm not looking for a society where we all drink herbal tea and listen to coldplay while loving everything around us but why have people in the last few year turned into, dare i say it :- self absorbed assholes?

Manners people. Have you got em and why/why not?

Karoma

Location: Dublin

^ That'll do it:)

I have manners. It can be hard sometimes..

lizanne

funk-you wrote:

Manners, where have they gone nowadays? i'm not talking about lying your cape in a puddle for your lady to keep her feet dry type chivalry but just basic manners and unwritten rules of our fair society.

Most people would hold the door for the next person coming through but then there are the people who will actually use up more effort sliding their way through a closing door so as not to hold it, or just people who'll blatantly not even bother. When someone holds a door for me i'll at least give an acknowledgement and a "thanks" but this too seems to have gone out the window.

The word please has all but disappeared.

When you get on a bus it was always customary to let other people off before getting on and when you do get on you do so on the left hand side to allow people past or not get in peoples way while you pay.

People just walking by as a lady tries to get a pram and a load of shopping bags up onto a bus but ive seen people just look at them like " Fu(ks sake get out of my way, you're holding me up" instead of taking the 5 seconds to help them lift the pram etc...

People cutting in line is one that really kills me and then go on to argue even though they know full well that what they're doing isn't tolerated anywhere.

I'm not looking for a society where we all drink herbal tea and listen to coldplay while loving everything around us but why have people in the last few year turned into, dare i say it :- self absorbed assholes?

Manners people. Have you got em and why/why not?

i totally agree with u, i was in the post office last week and a woman laden down with bags was trying to get in the door n NO ONE held it open.........n what sickened me was a young girl about 8 was the 1 who went over and opened the door 4 her

makes you think...........

funk-you

Karoma wrote:

Location: Dublin

^ That'll do it:)

We'll have no xenophobia here thankyou:)


nah, ive noticed this all over recently and its really beginning to grind my gears how people are basically just being assholes for no other reason than they can.

Lump

All you can do is be good mannered, you're not going to change the world. I always hold doors/offer to carry stuff for people and what not. It's weird if you offer to do something for someone in London, they look at you as if you are an axe murderer.

John

skywalker

Completely agree funk, please & thank you are words oft forgotten in Dublin nowadays. I especially hate when people serving you in a supermarket or centra dont use them, even when you do. No idea why that one specially bothers me.

My bus driver always seems to brighten up when I say thanks at the end of a journey.

"Its nice to be important, but its more important to be nice."

ErinGoBrath

skywalker wrote:

I especially hate when people serving you in a supermarket or centra dont use them, even when you do.

Ahhhh! My pet hate, drives me mad :mad:

zoro

I'll tell you what I hate - those f*cking women who expect a male to open and hold a door for them, for no other reason than to be chivalrous. That includes giving up a seat on a bus to a woman that's standing.
I've overheard old women b*tching cause some "young scruff" wouldn't get up to let a woman on her way home from work sit down.
Felt like shouting at them - maybe the guy was tired too? *grumble*

There are those who go on about equality between the sexes, and then go expecting special treatment because they're women. I say NO!

</rant>
I'm in a bad mood this morning

Tar.Aldarion

Some people still have manners, some don't. I don't care if other people do. I do. I hold a door open for somebody because I want to help them out. No reason to expect it in return. I say please and thank you to thank them and to be polite. Do it because you want to. Manners have disappeared a lot these days but at least my friends still have them...well at least some.

CuLT

I always hold the doors for people, mostly in DCU ( a large assortment of doors to be held open ), and most of the time the same courtesy is extended to me. I think this is pretty unusual, but it's nice to see that simple politeness hasn't gone out the window everywhere.

to echo skywalker; I always make a point of saying cheers, or thanks, to the bus driver when I'm hopping off the bus. I've done so for years now. I'm sure that type of job can drive people screwball sometimes so I think anything that *might* make it a better day is worth saying.

Zulu

zoro wrote:

I've overheard old women b*tching cause some "young scruff" wouldn't get up to let a woman on her way home from work sit down.
Felt like shouting at them - maybe the guy was tired too? *grumble*

Nice! I always offer my seat to old people. Ladies, or men. ...but I guess thats all down to the way I was brough up - WITH manners. :rolleyes:

Dermington

funk-you wrote:

Most people would hold the door for the next person coming through but then there are the people who will actually use up more effort sliding their way through a closing door so as not to hold it, or just people who'll blatantly not even bother. When someone holds a door for me i'll at least give an acknowledgement and a "thanks" but this too seems to have gone out the window.

When you get on a bus it was always customary to let other people off before getting on

People cutting in line

The door thing really gets me. Loads of f*cking assholes never say thanks or dont even look at you. I find its mostly women who skip the queue and jump on the bus before anyone can get off.

MrJoeSoap

funk-you wrote:

its really beginning to grind my gears how...

You know what really grinds my gears? This Lindsay Lohan.

Agree with your OP though. Manners have certainly taken a nose-dive in this country, but I guess all we can do as individuals is try our best to keep our standards high. :v:

zoro

Zulu wrote:

Nice! I always offer my seat to old people. Ladies, or men. ...but I guess thats all down to the way I was brough up - WITH manners. :rolleyes:

hey - don't jump on me ... I always get up for old people, but it's the expectation that _all_ women deserve a seat on the bus so I should get up off the seat for them that annoys me.

*grumble*

delly

I'd say please and thank you without even thinking if i'm in a shop. Basic manners are just that, simple things which should just happen. I'll always check as well if i'm going in or out of a door, that there may be someone close behind me to hold it open.

Being living in Drogheda for the last year and the difference in manners and attitude from shop assistents etc. compared to Dublin is amazing. Maybe it is just a city thing which breeds indifference.

foggy

I used to give my seat to people older than me on the bus, but some times they get miffed because they don't think they are old enough.

Pigman II

The worst one is when you actually DO hold the door for some dozy fúcker but he's already expecting you NOT to so he's slowed his pace in order to arrive when the door should have closed, leaving you holding the door for more time than you'd expected to.

So in order not to look like someones beatch the only thing to do then is let go of it and then it looks like you deliberately timed it to smash the door into their dozy face (which is worse than having never held the door for them in the first place).

Zulu

zoro wrote:

hey - don't jump on me ... I always get up for old people...

My apologies so. I give me chair to old, injured, or pregnant people. Being a woman isn't a handicap - so they don't qualify for a chair!

zoro

Zulu wrote:

My apologies so. I give me chair to old, injured, or pregnant people. Being a woman isn't a handicap - so they don't qualify for a chair!

elusiveguy

lizanne wrote:

i totally agree with u, i was in the post office last week and a woman laden down with bags was trying to get in the door n NO ONE held it open.........n what sickened me was a young girl about 8 was the 1 who went over and opened the door 4 her

makes you think...........

Yip, cos your manners are impecible :rolleyes:

Sleipnir

It really annoyed me a few weeks ago when a heavily pregnant lady got on the Luas (which was packed) and I looked around wondering who was going to offer their seat.
Poor girl was hopping from one foot to the other so I had to bellow
"IF THERE IS A GENTLEMAN ON THE TRAIN COULD HE PLEASE OFFER HIS SEAT TO THIS LADY?"

About 5 men leapt to their feet then but some just gawped and looked embarrassed.

I was already standing by the way!

CuLT

Sleipnir wrote:

I was already standing by the way!

rofl, and I was imagining you sitting there on the LUAS, looking incredibly indignant, shouting that

Dave!

^
lol

I have manners, and most people I've encountered recently have been mannered enough... Most people will hold the door for you, say please and thanks, etc. -- in my area, and in college (UCD).

Oh well..

pseudonym

Regards holding a door, I never quite know how far somebody should be behind me before im not obliged to do this. Its hard to judge sometimes, but its definitely rude not to hold a door if it will still be swinging shut as the next person gets to it, but if the door will be closed fully before they get to it, its the same as if you were never there, unless of course, they see you glancing around, and then you kind of have to hold the door until they get there or you look like a prat.
On rainy days, for some reason, I extend my waiting period and will hold a door for longer.

Fascinating, isnt it?

Kablamo!

lizanne wrote:

i totally agree with u, i was in the post office last week and a woman laden down with bags was trying to get in the door n NO ONE held it open.........n what sickened me was a young girl about 8 was the 1 who went over and opened the door 4 her

makes you think...........

why didn't you open the door??

lizanne

Kablamo! wrote:

why didn't you open the door??

I HAD A 3 MONTH OLD BABY IN MY ARMS.. NOT MINE I WAS MINDING MY NIECE 4 THE DAY, N B4U ASK WHY WAS I HOLDN HER N NOT HAVE HER INA BUGGY, SHE WAS RESTLESS SO I TOOK HER OUT TO CALM HER

lizanne

elusiveguy wrote:

Yip, cos your manners are impecible :rolleyes:

THERE BETTER THAN YOURS

Pighead

lizanne wrote:

THERE BETTER THAN YOURS

Wrong Lizanne. Your manners are appalling. All day long you've been starting sub standard threads without even a hint of an apology. Pighead PM'd you about your erratic behaviour and you ignored him. Plain Rude buddy. You've got a lot of growing up to do liz. Hopefully Santa Claus brings some manners for you this Christmas.x

Sleipnir

You're spelling and grammer ain't, Lizanne. That's for sure.

CuLT

lizanne wrote:

THERE BETTER THAN YOURS

I reiterate: lurk more.

Manners are ridiculous.

Example: What exactly is wrong with putting you put your elbows on the table??? It really reduces eating efficiency.

Zulu

Deleted User wrote:

Manners are ridiculous.

Example: What exactly is wrong with putting you put your elbows on the table??? It really reduces eating efficiency.

Well thats really more etiquette, isn't it?

No, manners.

Berkel

lizanne wrote:

I HAD A 3 MONTH OLD BABY IN MY ARMS.. NOT MINE I WAS MINDING MY NIECE 4 THE DAY, N B4U ASK WHY WAS I HOLDN HER N NOT HAVE HER INA BUGGY, SHE WAS RESTLESS SO I TOOK HER OUT TO CALM HER

Why do you have to type like that - like a text message?! :mad:

jaggeh

manners are over rated

Zulu

Deleted User wrote:

No, manners.

You seem sure. But I believe you'll find it's ettiquette.

Zulu

Zulu wrote:

You seem sure. But I believe you'll find it's ettiquette.

etiquette

DonkeyStyle \o/

zoro wrote:

Felt like shouting at them - maybe the guy was tired too? *grumble*

Yeah f*ck that, I've worked jobs where I'd be standing for 9 hours solid... if I'm lucky enough to get a seat on a bus after that shift, there's no way I'm getting up for some old dear who's been pottering around town for 20 minutes doing a bit of shopping... I don't care how long she stands there staring at me... there are 20 other people on this bus less tired than me, why don't you go stare at one of them? :mad:
Anyway, the OAP/disabled seats are at the front of the bus... anywhere else is fair game.

Zulu

Deleted User wrote:

etiquette

Well done. :rolleyes: You know the spelling - now check the meaning.

Zulu

Zulu wrote:

Well done.

Always glad to help

Sangre

Sleipnir wrote:

It really annoyed me a few weeks ago when a heavily pregnant lady got on the Luas (which was packed) and I looked around wondering who was going to offer their seat.
Poor girl was hopping from one foot to the other so I had to bellow
"IF THERE IS A GENTLEMAN ON THE TRAIN COULD HE PLEASE OFFER HIS SEAT TO THIS LADY?"

About 5 men leapt to their feet then but some just gawped and looked embarrassed.

I was already standing by the way!

Well done you've great manners but you're a sexist.
Bravo.

Zulu

tortega wrote:

you're both correct, now stfu.

Rofl. You evidently don't get it. Were you dragged up by any chance?

monkeyfudge

I don't mind if somone is going through a door right in front of me and just hands the door over to me... I'll always do that myself... but it drives me nuts when someone holds the door when I'm about 5 or more feet away from the thing... and they expect you to do that little run to catch up to them to take the door.

The same goes for drivers who slow down to let you cross the road... if they'd just kept going then I could have walked across at my leisure in the nice big gap behind them... but no! The gap is gone now and they expect you to run across the road in front of them. And they do expect you to run... I've sat in cars and watched drivers do this and they get impatient when people take thier time crossing the road in front of them.

DonkeyStyle \o/

Sangre wrote:

Well done you've great manners but you're a sexist.
Bravo.

As much as I secretly hate Sangre, I have to agree with this... regardless of the pregnant womans sex, you only asked the 'gentlemen'... why not ask for an able-bodied woman to give up her seat?
Such a disgusting lack of inter-sexual political sensitivity tbh.

monkeyfudge

DonkeyStyle \o/ wrote:

As much as I secretly hate Sangre, I have to agree with this... regardless of the pregnant womans sex, you only asked the 'gentlemen'... why not ask for an able-bodied woman to give up her seat?
Such a disgusting lack of inter-sexual political sensitivity tbh.

Yes... and what if it had a been a pregnant man...

DonkeyStyle \o/

monkeyfudge wrote:

Yes... and what if it had a been a pregnant man...

That kind of equality is still in the pipelines, but we're pushing hard for it. (l33t pun skillz)

Sleipnir

Sangre wrote:

Well done you've great manners but you're a sexist.
Bravo.

Actually, I didn't use that exact sentence; it was a little less refined.
More like "Would somebody please offer this girl their seat?"

michaelanthony

Princess Margeret called the Irish pigs

Sangre

Sleipnir wrote:

Actually, I didn't use that exact sentence; it was a little less refined.
More like "Would somebody please offer this girl their seat?"

And yet you said here? Stop backtracking.
You disgust me.

DonkeyStyle \o/

michaelanthony wrote:

Princess Margeret called the Irish pigs

And what was their response time?

dundalk cailin

im quite polite to people
but i agree with monkeyfudge re the people holding doors open or slowing down in the car when your miles away :mad: although french people are a lot less curteous on the roads than irish drivers