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IGN - Ten Reasons to Wait for PS3

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,225 ✭✭✭Ciaran500


    Nailz wrote:
    I think there is plenty more reason to bye the PS3, like it has better graphics and better game-play........ which is all the more reason to wait for the PS3.
    Better graphics? Anything realistic I've seen (most of the stuff realeased recently) doesn't look any better than what the 360 can do and all the cross format stuff looks identical to.

    Better game-play? Please tell me where you have played a PS3. :rolleyes:
    given the profit he's made sony on psp (psp is his brainchild), no

    They are selling each PSP at a loss and would still be in debt from R&D. Hardly something worth praising the guy for. (yet)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,639 ✭✭✭Laguna


    Nailz wrote:
    I think there is plenty more reason to bye the PS3, like it has better graphics and better game-play........ which is all the more reason to wait for the PS3.

    Granted it will probably have a more powerful graphics chip than the 360 but where do people get the notion this will automatically make it have games with better gameplay?, for ****s sake, do the majority of people out there who play games look at snazzy graphics and think to themselves "****, this looks really good, that must mean the gameplay is L33T!!!". Sigh. By that understanding, you're practically saying that anything on the PSP/Nintendo DS is **** because they don't have graphics to match the 360 or PS3 :rolleyes:.

    Better gameplay?, surely that's in the hands of 3rd party developers, not some guy spouting off technical specs of a machine that isn't even in production yet?. PS3 fans have completely dismissed the 360 on the basis that the PS3 will have better graphics and better 'gameplay' all off the back of unconfirmed specifications, if that's what gets Sony fans wet, will you wait for a console I'm going to make if I tell you it has a terabyte graphics card thats able to render the universe three times over, a dozen core 10gHz processor and MGS 36; Is Snake dead yet?. Hey my specs are better than the PS3!, wanna wait for my 'PrizeMachine'?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,421 ✭✭✭projectmayhem


    Ciaran500 wrote:
    Better graphics? Anything realistic I've seen (most of the stuff realeased recently) doesn't look any better than what the 360 can do and all the cross format stuff looks identical to.

    Better game-play? Please tell me where you have played a PS3. :rolleyes:

    They are selling each PSP at a loss and would still be in debt from R&D. Hardly something worth praising the guy for. (yet)

    the cross format stuff (i.e. that mech game) does look different on ps3. watch the videos again. also, kojima and most of the dev studios with big projects for ps3 have come out and said the videos at e3 didn't show the true graphics of ps3... in fact, ps3 can render far beyond the killzone or mgs4 trailer


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,811 ✭✭✭Stompbox


    I'm beginning to think that all these MS fanboys are getting a bit jealous. Like I mean, the PS3 has a 50:50 chance of either being better or worse than the XBOX 360 but all you fanboys seem to think that MS has already won.

    Look at the facts, Ps2 outsold the XBOX and the PS3 WILL outsell the 360. Even if the PS3 is ****, it will still out sell the 360.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,639 ✭✭✭Laguna


    Sweet wrote:
    I'm beginning to think that all these MS fanboys are getting a bit jealous.

    Why do you keep referring to anyone who takes the PS3 with a pinch of salt as an MS fanboy?!, PS3 fans have written off a console in comparison to something that HASN'T BEEN RELEASED, if that isn't the very definition of fanboyism, then WTF?!. FFS, if I'm anything I'm a P.C. fanboy!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,639 ✭✭✭Laguna


    Sweet wrote:
    Look at the facts, Ps2 outsold the XBOX and the PS3 WILL outsell the 360. Even if the PS3 is ****, it will still out sell the 360.

    Is that a mark of quality then, because something sells more?, therefore a cheap bottle of champagne is better than dom perignon as more bottles of the cheap **** sell?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,070 ✭✭✭Placebo


    with pc graphics going way ahead of its console sidelines runners, i think people were not really satisfyed with the "next gen" look, so as far as im concerned, ps3 isnt going to bring any suprises, unless its like that fake killzone film, which it isnt going to be, blah blah lets just wait


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,225 ✭✭✭Ciaran500


    the cross format stuff (i.e. that mech game) does look different on ps3. watch the videos again. also, kojima and most of the dev studios with big projects for ps3 have come out and said the videos at e3 didn't show the true graphics of ps3... in fact, ps3 can render far beyond the killzone or mgs4 trailer
    What graphical differences? Other than mabye a few different camera angles or models.

    Link to who said that the PS3 can do better than what was shown at E3 please.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,297 ✭✭✭Ri_Nollaig


    i really love reading threads like this :D
    anyway this is the way i see it:
    the 360 is out and atm it is the best, early games are nothing to what will be out over the next few years
    the ps3 will b out next year more then likely next at christmas and will have better spec...
    most games, bar a few will be out on both and you will NOT be able to tell the difference so it comes down to items such as extra features, online and controllers that truely make the difference and not gimmicks too such as the eyetoy.
    yes they are rivialy high gaming PC's but these are consoles that will not be changed for at least 4-5years while PC will get a heathly new gpu/cpu update yearly.
    i would assume the ps3 will sell more but that is mainly due to the huge market it has and ms have only been on the scene for one console gen. also sony are much more popular in all three of markets us/eu/japan. while people just generaly hate ms in japan :D this could change but i dont see this happen enough to make ms the winners of this console-gen just improve their postion for the next

    and for marketing hype... please people just ignore EVERYTHING its mostly bullsh.it, have a search for some of the rumours of previous console cause you can get an entertaining read. like here for one. also another article said the n64 will be able to produce graphics that can rivial cgi from a supercomputer :D
    the 360 is out and yes some of you arnt impressed but atleast you know its not fake :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,811 ✭✭✭Stompbox


    I saw a PS3 screenshot(in game) a while ago and it was something else. Ithink I still have it saved on the PC...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,225 ✭✭✭Ciaran500


    Post it up so, what game was it from?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,811 ✭✭✭Stompbox


    I'll look for it now. It was out of a FPS. Pretty good too. Lovely detail on gunshot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,421 ✭✭✭projectmayhem


    Laguna wrote:
    Is that a mark of quality then, because something sells more?, therefore a cheap bottle of champagne is better than dom perignon as more bottles of the cheap **** sell?

    well they're not selling them because they're useless bits of metal and plastic...
    Ciaran500 wrote:
    What graphical differences? Other than mabye a few different camera angles or models.

    Link to who said that the PS3 can do better than what was shown at E3 please.

    http://ps3.ign.com/articles/662/662656p1.html
    Ri_Nollaig wrote:
    yes they are rivialy high gaming PC's but these are consoles that will not be changed for at least 4-5years while PC will get a heathly new gpu/cpu update yearly.
    i would assume the ps3 will sell more but that is mainly due to the huge market it has and ms have only been on the scene for one console gen. also sony are much more popular in all three of markets us/eu/japan. while people just generaly hate ms in japan :D this could change but i dont see this happen enough to make ms the winners of this console-gen just improve their postion for the next

    while you're probably right, gaming will move onwards and beyond 360/ps3 on the PC format, i'm not going to shell out on a new gpu every year. maybe when half life 3 comes around.

    this is why consoles are useful. everyone's on the same system. everyone has equal power in their machine, so if i shoot you dead it's not because you don't have enough RAM and everything went laggy...

    as for xbox in japan. they haven't even sold half their shipments of 360's there yet, and for every 360 sold there's less then 1 game sold. the people who did buy them are probably technofiles, and/or DOA fans
    Ri_Nollaig wrote:
    and for marketing hype... please people just ignore EVERYTHING its mostly bullsh.it, have a search for some of the rumours of previous console cause you can get an entertaining read. like here for one. also another article said the n64 will be able to produce graphics that can rivial cgi from a supercomputer :D
    the 360 is out and yes some of you arnt impressed but atleast you know its not fake :)

    emotion engine was a nice little idea but people didn't care. i think i recall an example of what it could do was lara croft crying/sweating and stuff.... then FPS becomes huge. oops.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,225 ✭✭✭Ciaran500



    Doesn't say what differences or which is better, and I can't see any differences from the trailer. Also, "Link to who said that the PS3 can do better than what was shown at E3 please."


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 599 ✭✭✭Cabelo


    If I remember correctly the MGS trailer is in game stylee... and that's bleedin' rapih.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,225 ✭✭✭Ciaran500


    Cabelo wrote:
    If I remember correctly the MGS trailer is in game stylee... and that's bleedin' rapih.
    http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=62199

    "Metal Gear Solid 4 could work on Xbox 360" - From Hideo's mouth.

    "there are really no differences" between the PS3, 360 and PC


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,248 ✭✭✭4Xcut


    what difference does it make about graphics? we're talking about GAMES consolesandd good graphics do no nessacerilly(sp?) make a good game. its not like the difference is going to be equivalent of between say an Atari Jaguar and playstaion 2. Its games that make the console and as far as that is concerned that comes down to what games you like to play. Besides the ps3 isn't even released yet so how can we compare these consoles properly


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,421 ✭✭✭projectmayhem


    Ciaran500 wrote:
    Doesn't say what differences or which is better, and I can't see any differences from the trailer. Also, "Link to who said that the PS3 can do better than what was shown at E3 please."

    oh didn't read properly, sorry. can't do that. he's a dev for a "certain" company who doesn't want any mad attention coming his way :) atm with his relative anonymity (apart from 2 forums he frequents) he's able to give us pics of the devkit in action and whatnot
    4Xcut wrote:
    what difference does it make about graphics? we're talking about GAMES consolesandd good graphics do no nessacerilly(sp?) make a good game. its not like the difference is going to be equivalent of between say an Atari Jaguar and playstaion 2. Its games that make the console and as far as that is concerned that comes down to what games you like to play. Besides the ps3 isn't even released yet so how can we compare these consoles properly

    despite what everyone says - graphics make a huge difference. if half life 2 was released with the same physics but looked like half life 1, it wouldn't have been so popular. graphics, despite people disliking the focus on them, give the user that immediate gratification. it's e-chocolate. good looking games, while they certainly don't mean good gameplay, help a lot in the believability of a story.

    as for comparing a console that isn't out to one most of us (i assume) own, it's quite easy. sony have released specs, and you can base comparisons off that. sony (despite their reputation around here) aren't going to say they can run the ps3 at such and such speed etc. and release a console that's just a slightly fatter ps2.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,225 ✭✭✭Ciaran500


    But specs mean nothing. Look at intel vs. AMD if someone who didn't know better just looked at a sheet with the specs on it Intel would seem like the obvious winner cause they run much faster. In reality the differencces are far more complicated and due to the PS3 using a new type of processor (cell) and Xbox360 using the new unified architecture in the GPU.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,297 ✭✭✭Ri_Nollaig


    sony have released specs, and you can base comparisons off that. sony (despite their reputation around here) aren't going to say they can run the ps3 at such and such speed etc. and release a console that's just a slightly fatter ps2.

    that is a really BAD way to compare a console (as with a cpu or gpu or any other piece of hardware). ofcourse they are going to say they can do this and do that, show some nice powerpoint slides and gave demo footage of "what they think" it could be like. they did this with the ps2! i have every faith the ps3 will b a great machine but there is no point in comparing them now! not using specs only sony officals have given anyway


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,248 ✭✭✭4Xcut


    exactly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,841 ✭✭✭Running Bing


    In my opinion theres only one reason to wait for the ps3 and thats because the xbox 360 just isnt impressive at the moment. I know sweet fa about technical stuff(resolutions etc) and I purely base my judgements on the games and although the launch games for the 360 are very good (compared to the tripe were usually given) Theres just nothing groundbreaking about them. REmember the improvement when playstation came out over the snes/megadrive then when the dreamcast/ps2/xbox came out. I was playing perfect dark yesterday and I swear I would have thought it was a gamecube game if I didnt know any better(and if it wasnt such a decent game;) ). No way Id spend 400 quid on it unless I was a total xbox nut.


    Of course obviously theres a lot more to come from it but at the moment I just dont see the point of spennding that much money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,225 ✭✭✭Ciaran500


    Babybing wrote:
    Theres just nothing groundbreaking about them. REmember the improvement when playstation came out over the snes/megadrive then when the dreamcast/ps2/xbox came out
    I don't remember anything more than a few games with slightly improved graphics at the dreamcast/ps2/xbox launch, certainly nothing ground breaking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,297 ✭✭✭Ri_Nollaig


    Babybing wrote:
    In my opinion theres only one reason to wait for the ps3 and thats because the xbox 360 just isnt impressive at the moment.
    u do have a point there, atm most games on the 360 arnt that great but there r some great ones on the way, within the next 6 months and i personaly dont think the ps3 will b on the shelves until atleast christmas 06


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