New rig (delivered today)

trojaneater

Specs
Athlon™ 64 Fx-57
Microsoft® Windows® XP Home
2048MB PC3200 DDR Memory
300GB Serial ATA HDD
2x256MB GeForce 7800 GTX
19" TFT Flat Panel Monitor

Just ran the demo of fear on full and it flys.....................................

Cost an arm and a leg though..................

Rollo Tamasi

pics of this beast?

trojaneater

Rollo Tamasi wrote:

pics of this beast?

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Praetorian

I'm thinking of treating myself to something like that for xmas, but maybe only one gtx

Does the second one really make much difference?

Mutant_Fruit

Praetorian wrote:

Does the second one really make much difference?

Check out the benchmarks and decide for yourself (personally, i think a big fat "Not worth it" comes to mind.

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2607&p=6

EDIT: Unless you're lucky enough to own a monitor that supports a high resolution and you like to game at 1600x1200. But since you own an LCD, you'll probably be doing all the gaming at it's native res, whatever that is.

trojaneater

Praetorian wrote:

I'm thinking of treating myself to something like that for xmas, but maybe only one gtx

Does the second one really make much difference?

it will play any game on full and then some................

DemonOfTheFall

All sounds very sweet except for the FX-57. There is no reason to ever buy a processor that expensive. Ever...

youcancallmeal

DemonOfTheFall wrote:

All sounds very sweet except for the FX-57. There is no reason to ever buy a processor that expensive. Ever...

Have to agree, Its like 1000euro:eek:

gline

so go on, whats your 3dmark 05 score?? dont keep us in suspense. Is the fx57 oc'd???

mad m

Jesus!!! Whats the noise level like? Lovely set up btw.

trojaneater

mad m wrote:

Jesus!!! Whats the noise level like? Lovely set up btw.

quiet as a mouse(lol)

trojaneater

DemonOfTheFall wrote:

All sounds very sweet except for the FX-57. There is no reason to ever buy a processor that expensive. Ever...

yeah, but wouldn't you love one.......................................

Irishpimpdude

What happend to that triple monitor setup you were buying?

trojaneater

Irishpimpdude wrote:

What happend to that triple monitor setup you were buying?

Thought more about the advantages of three monitors? Didn't need em...........

And with the green eyed monster bitchin that goes on here, Why would i bother...........??

Irishpimpdude

Yeah but it would be sooo kool ! lol even though you dont need them lol but yeah thats a nice machine wish i had the money for something like that !

unkel

An Opty 146 with decent stepping could have saved you the guts of a grand

gline

unkel wrote:

An Opty 146 with decent stepping could have saved you the guts of a grand

except multis arent unlocked upwards.. comes in handy and the fx57 in right conditions oc's really well

unkel

gline wrote:

except multis arent unlocked upwards.. comes in handy

Yeah they multis are locked, but 10*300 = 15*200 :cool:

stevejazzx

trojaneater wrote:

yeah, but wouldn't you love one.......................................

trojan why didnt ya get an x2 4800(same money), i know the fx-57 is clocked a little higher but theres only one of them(not dual core like the x2), with the x2 you coulda been multitasking like a mentalist, read a lot articles saying that with advent of x2 s the fx s are becoming obsolete

gline

stevejazzx wrote:

read a lot articles saying that with advent of x2 s the fx s are becoming obsolete

if you use multi threaded apps, or multiple heavy cpu usage programs at the same time. If you use single threaded apps (which most do) an fx is better for now. Granted in the future (not so distant) we will all use multicore, but right now most will benifit more from a faster single core cpu

Lump

You still have a small penis.

John

stevejazzx

gline wrote:

if you use multi threaded apps, or multiple heavy cpu usage programs at the same time. If you use single threaded apps (which most do) an fx is better for now. Granted in the future (not so distant) we will all use multicore, but right now most will benifit more from a faster single core cpu

yeah this was a true a little while ago when dual cores where clocked a good bit slower than than fx's, but now with the athlon 64 dual core x2 4800 2mb cache is only v slighty slower even in single threaded apps than an fx-57 1mb cahe so whats the point

gline

stevejazzx wrote:

yeah this was a true a little while ago when dual cores where clocked a good bit slower than than fx's, but now with the athlon 64 dual core x2 4800 2mb cache is only v slighty slower even in single threaded apps than an fx-57 1mb cahe so whats the point

tbh im only buy fx for the ocing potential, i suppose at stock speeds the x2 is better value, but fx is much better for oc'ing.

stevejazzx

gline wrote:

tbh im only buy fx for the ocing potential, i suppose at stock speeds the x2 is better value, but fx is much better for oc'ing.

1:I want the fastest processor in the world!
2:Why?
1:So I can overlock it!

trojaneater

Lump wrote:

You still have a small penis.

John

At least it works
lol

unkel

stevejazzx wrote:

1:I want the fastest processor in the world!
2:Why?
1:So I can overlock it!

LOL, you forgot the: :rolleyes:

I'd much prefer to buy a 1.8 Opty for €150 and clock it beyond the standard speed of a €1100 FX-57. Now that is what overclocking is all about imho

If only I could find one...

gline

unkel wrote:

LOL, you forgot the: :rolleyes:

I'd much prefer to buy a 1.8 Opty for €150 and clock it beyond the standard speed of a €1100 FX-57. Now that is what overclocking is all about imho

If only I could find one...

id rather buy an fx57 and overclock it to way past an optys or fx's speeds and have an unavailable speed lol

Praetorian

I'm going for an opti 146 myself. Unfortunately I can't get my hands on one of those 8 phase mobos, so I'm going to get one of the DFI expert boards instead...unlesss anyone can suggest something better.

gline

Praetorian wrote:

I'm going for an opti 146 myself. Unfortunately I can't get my hands on one of those 8 phase mobos, so I'm going to get one of the DFI expert boards instead...unlesss anyone can suggest something better.

where u getting ur opty from??

Nforce

trojaneater wrote:

Specs
Athlon™ 64 Fx-57
Microsoft® Windows® XP Home
2048MB PC3200 DDR Memory
300GB Serial ATA HDD
2x256MB GeForce 7800 GTX
19" TFT Flat Panel Monitor

Just ran the demo of fear on full and it flys.....................................

Cost an arm and a leg though..................

nice specs........:cool:

My current system is....

X2 4800
2gb pc3200 Samsung ram
asus A8-n deluxe
Hitachi 400gb hdd
36gb raptor
XP pro
Nvidia 7800 gtx Overclocked 256mb
Nec 2080 ux+ 20" LCD

commited

How much did all that cost :S

That's just crazy money to spend on a PC - performance can be matched (or near) without going SLI (you'll only be gaming at 1280x1024 on a 19" tft anyway) and an Opteron 144/146..

Spose you've ended up with a sweet rig though & if i had money to burn I'd end up with similar..

Are you overclocking? You didnt mention what mobo you bought... What are the timings on the ram?

Nforce

commited wrote:

you'll only be gaming at 1280x1024 on a 19" tft anyway

I'm gaming at 1600 x 1200 no problem

Mutant_Fruit

Nforce wrote:

I'm gaming at 1600 x 1200 no problem

You can do it alright, but TFT's are best used at their native resolution, otherwise they just scale the image internally. Which isn't always a good thing.

Nforce

1600 x 1200 is the native res on my monitor........

http://www.bjorn3d.com/read.php?cID=427

unklerosco

Still don't get it, my 6800ultra system plays every game i have on full(inc F.E.A.R) n it cost me €800... Considering the FX-57 cost more than that alone n doesn't play the games any faster(well it does but u wont notice it) whats the point???

Spec.
AMD 64+ 3500
2gig ram
2x250gb HD
6800ultra
Big smile, fat wallet(i wish ;-)

commited

Nforce wrote:

I'm gaming at 1600 x 1200 no problem

Fair enough - but the chap has a 19" monitor which'll have a native res of 1280x1024

trojaneater

amd athlon 64 fx57 processor (939pin)
2gb (2x1gb)pc3200 ddr-memory(400mhz)
300gb serial ata hd with 16mb buffer
dvd rom sony 16x
dvd-rw dual layer sony 16x
2x256MB GeForce 7800 GTX
19' viewsonic tft
and lots of other stuff 2

commited

You still havent mentioned what motherboard you chose..

What type of memory did you go for and what timings?

Are you overclocking?

What cooler are you using?

How much did it all come to?

DemonOfTheFall

E-Peen threads make baby jesus cry. Buying a new pc isn't tweaking or modding, it's just buying a new pc then showing off to everyone.

trojaneater

commited wrote:

You still havent mentioned what motherboard you chose..

What type of memory did you go for and what timings?

Are you overclocking?

What cooler are you using?

How much did it all come to?

Motherboard: Asus A8n-sli deluxe

DIMM1: Samsung M3 68L2923CUN-CCC 1 GB PC3200 DDR SDRAM (3.0-3-3-8 @ 200 MHz) (2.5-3-3-7 @ 166 MHz) x2

No

1700

commited

If thats €1700, sounds cheaper than I thought..

Thing I cant understand is that you bought a ridiculously expensive CPU & 2 gfx cards, but then used crap ram? :S

riptide

commited wrote:

If thats €1700, sounds cheaper than I thought..

Thing I cant understand is that you bought a ridiculously expensive CPU & 2 gfx cards, but then used crap ram? :S

I agree. The timings ain't the best. Sell the ram and get some monster mushkins with 2-2-2-5 or at least DDR500 2.5CL (for overclocking of course)

riptide

Just noticed people debating dual core and benchmarks etc. I'd like to draw attention to this http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/11/21/the_mother_of_all_cpu_charts_2005/ This little number from the dudes at THG really shows up the limitations of sythetic benchmarks and shows us what really happens in everyday life, and also the pros and cons of dual core! Notice how well the Pentium EE do well in Sythetic benchs and the FX-57's ranking changes somewhat from bench to bench. While in real life tests the FX-57 (And most top end AMD's) really shines compared to Intel! Hopefully this sheds light on the topic,

gline

riptide wrote:

Just noticed people debating dual core and benchmarks etc. I'd like to draw attention to this http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/11/21/the_mother_of_all_cpu_charts_2005/ This little number from the dudes at THG really shows up the limitations of sythetic benchmarks and shows us what really happens in everyday life, and also the pros and cons of dual core! Notice how well the Pentium EE do well in Sythetic benchs and the FX-57's ranking changes somewhat from bench to bench. While in real life tests the FX-57 (And most top end AMD's) really shines compared to Intel! Hopefully this sheds light on the topic,

thanks for the link..its handy

WizZard

trojaneater wrote:

DIMM1: Samsung M3 68L2923CUN-CCC 1 GB PC3200 DDR SDRAM (3.0-3-3-8 @ 200 MHz) (2.5-3-3-7 @ 166 MHz) x2

No

/Cry

gline

WizZard wrote:

/Cry

bit of a waste alright for the fx57

Praetorian

gline wrote:

where u getting ur opty from??

I just ordered it from OCUK. Nice price when you don't have to pay vat

They have a few left btw, maybe I should have ordered a couple :v:

WizZard

Praetorian wrote:

They have a few left btw, maybe I should have ordered a couple :v:

Yes, especially when you don't have to pay VAT!

gline

Praetorian wrote:

I just ordered it from OCUK. Nice price when you don't have to pay vat

They have a few left btw, maybe I should have ordered a couple :v:

let us know how it oc's, see if the magic cores are still in circulation

Praetorian

gline wrote:

let us know how it oc's, see if the magic cores are still in circulation

I'll be happy with 2.8ghz on my nice air cooler once it's 100% prime stable, and that isn't unusual for an opty, even if it's a weaker one. AMD apparently aren't making them anymore, so get yours while you can I've read that lots of people can do 3ghz on air / water, 3.4ghz on phase change :eek:

gline

Praetorian wrote:

I'll be happy with 2.8ghz on my nice air cooler once it's 100% prime stable, and that isn't unusual for an opty, even if it's a weaker one. AMD apparently aren't making them anymore, so get yours while you can I've read that lots of people can do 3ghz on air / water, 3.4ghz on phase change :eek:

hmm im almost thinking this might be better then the fx 55 (SD core) im gonna have on phase, il see how the fx oc's, if it is bad il replace with opty