Harchibald - Dead Cert?

ChuckProphet

Anyone know what price for Sat.? He's got to be backed as long as he's not odds-on.

masterK

I'd cast your mind back to his last run at the track before using the words "Dead Cert" and Harchibald in the same sentence.

ChuckProphet

This race is hardly up to champion hurdle standards

masterK

My point being that he found nothing up the hill at Cheltenham in March, it looks like Faasel is going to run and there few other half decent horses entered so 5/4 may not be a great price given his last visit to the track.

fade2black

Harchibald has continued to let down his supporters since that Champion Hurdle ChuckProphet, his only win coming when fortuitously when Solerina fell in front him. The point MasterK is making is that after a county hurdle and a champion hurdle Harchibald just isn't suited by Cheltenham's hill. He may be the best horse in this race and he may win easily, however, he's one horse you can never describe as a dead cert.

fr wishy washy

At a forecast 6/5 I'd say its poor value,probable opponents include already mentioned Fassel,Penzance and Royal Shakespeare.How could you back this horse with any confidence at a skinny price?.

fr wishy washy

Credit where its due.He cantered all over them, Fassell included, who i thought would get him off the bridle at least.

Baggio

in all fairness...he WAS a dead cert,,, none of those horses would reach the first 4 in a Champion hurdle,,,and I personally couldnt believe how the channel 4 pundits were opposing him,,he WAS a cert i had him backed in a double,,,hadnt a fear at any stage ,,,he's different class to the uk hurdlers,,,and Meade should keep taking him over there for easy pickings...why not?...the races in England are there for the taking...

ciao'...Baggio.........

fr wishy washy

Thought Carbo was over confident today at Leopardstown (beaten by Brave Inca).What do you guys think?.

fade2black

I think the horse is over rated. He's been beaten 3 times by Brave Inca in the past while and I wish someone could tell me why there was such a difference in their prices today...and better again..why people were backing Harchibald at that price. It's one thing to beat Intersky Falcon who's best days are with Noel Edmunds, but he's been beaten race by race by his peers, Hardy Eustace, Brave Inca...and by the way...He's still 9/2 for the Champion Hurdle!!! I'll give anyone on here 10-1 if they want it. Absolute madness. I can't see past Brave Inca and Hardy Eustace come March.

Crumbs

I'll take that 10/1 for any amount.

fade2black

You an me sir, will do business.

Healio

Strongly fancy Arcalis for the Champion Hurdle.

Baggio

Well hard to know about cheltenham really...different ground will draw Inca and Harchi much closer together, even tho Inca likes good ground, Harchi is wayyyy better on it...and Eustace?..well he could be as good as ever........ARCALIS?...naaa without wishing to put the mockers on our horses id say the UK horses are way below what we have.
I get what some folks are saying about Harchi being beaten time and again by some horses here ,,so I say again Meade: send him to England all thru the season at that......hes different class to anyting they have, some fine big races waiting to be collected and Harchi will mop em up at his ease.
Carberry a bit over confident?..hmm maybe ...Mccoy will try and make all i think at cheltenham he may well try and take Eustace on from the start...which MIGHT work,,but if they cut each others throats and carberry comes wide with his run at the last , and can keep harchi from getting eyeballed by 2 tougher horses id say he will swoop on them...but thats only if theyr fecked after taking each other on if Eustace dominates again and it comes to a battle he'll kick Inca's asss! and Harchi's too!

ciao' amigos...Baggio

The jock

I really think it will be brave inca and hardy eustace in a battle up that cheltenham hill again with brave inca coming out as the winner.Brave Inca is a better horse this year and has mccoy on board.Hardy eustace is entered at the weekend i think so that will be a good race to watch.I think fethard lady would be better off running in the one of the novice hurdles instead of champion hurdle as it would have a great chance rather than colm running too in the same race.

fr wishy washy

The jock wrote:

hardy eustace is entered at the weekend i think so that will be a good race to watch.

Fraid the race has cut up and he will have only 2 opponents including Native upmanship so we won't find out a lot.

Crumbs

HARCHIBALD, the Smurfit Champion Hurdle favourite, underwent a procedure on Sunday morning to have what is believed to be a piece of birch removed from his off-fore pastern, with trainer Noel Meade admitting that the seven-year-old's prospects of racing again this season were "a bit dodgy".

Crumbs wrote:

I'll take that 10/1 for any amount.

fade2black wrote:

You an me sir, will do business.

Ehhh... I don't think so.

blahblah06

fade you must have been on

12.30 - Tramore
1st: 12 Fadie's Island (IRE) 16-1
surely?