Getting away without paying..

cormie

So I was doing a bit of the oul shopping today and brought 4 items up to the till which I totted up in my head and got the cash ready for. All security tags removed, items packed, cash requested, I notice it's a LOT (1/4) less than what it should be and I'm sure one item has not been scanned. What do you do? Ask them are they sure that's the right amount or say nothing and get away without paying for that item?

Laguna

I wouldn't bother, it's their problem, not yours.

^CwAzY^

omg thief :v:

Laguna

You're damn right. The way shops rip us off nowadays, it's poetic justice that someone comes away with a freebie now and then, I don't advocate actual theft, but in this guys circumstance, what the hell..

cormie

That thought of course crossed my mind, as in, I'm sure they were making more than enough profit off me to cover the cost of the unscanned item but I just couldn't help but point it out! Has I not been so aware of the price I should have been paying, I wouldn't have even noticed it myself.

^CwAzY^

You can make all the excuses you want, you're still going to hell lad :v: :v:

cormie

Bosco, I told the girl and paid for everything;)

Piste

I'd be more than happy to walk away without saying anything if it were a supermarket or large high-street shop, we get ripped off too much these days anyway, but if it were a small family newagents and the item was quite expensive (I've no idea what a family-run newsagents would sell that'd be so expensive >_>) then I would of course say something.

muckwarrior

If it were a situation where the person behind the till could get in trouble then i'd definately say it to them, like if they gave you change of a fifty instead of a twenty or somethin like that. But i'm not sure about the scenario you describe. If it wasn't scanned then nobody specifically is gonna get in trouble.

Binomate

Get your bags and run.

Gurgle

Laguna wrote:

You're damn right. The way shops rip us off nowadays.

Its not a rip-off, its up to you to choose to buy something at the price charged.
You always have the option to not buy it, buy a cheaper version or buy it elsewhere.

That attitude is nothing but a distraction from the ways we are being ripped off by Cartels and price-fixing.

So to take the goods knowing you havent paid is theft.


*climbs down from moral high ground and legs it down the street with your mobile phone

radiospan

What Piste said.

I wouldn't care if it was at Tesco or somewhere (and neither would the most of the people working there I'd say).

Small corner shops would be different though.

cormie

I didn't want to give too much info away on the type of establishment it is but it's a franchise with quite a large number of employees and masses of stock too. It's funny actually because I asked the girl did they give a student discount, she says no but the girl beside her says they get 10% off and I asked "do you want to buy it for me then and I'll give you the money, split the savings";) But they didn't, hehe, so now I'm wondering did the girl do it on purpose for me? Doubt it though. I'm pretty sure that it would have gone un noticed and she wouldn't have got into trouble.

Sparky

one time i bought a pair of jeans in the jean scene and the woman forgot to take of the security tag i didnt know at the time but i went out of the shop as normal, nothing sounded, then i said id go and get some boots, so went back in and it sounded, security gaurd jumped to the conclusion that i nicked the jeans and grabbed my arm really hard as he tried to bring me to the security office, only for the woman running after us to verify i just bought it, she saved 10mins of crap, i was looking for the receipt in the huff and it was actually in the bag with the jeans.

Binomate

Sparky_S wrote:

one time i bought a pair of jeans in the jean scene and the woman forgot to take of the security tag i didnt know at the time but i went out of the shop as normal, nothing sounded, then i said id go and get some boots, so went back in and it sounded, security gaurd jumped to the conclusion that i nicked the jeans and grabbed my arm really hard as he tried to bring me to the security office, only for the woman running after us to verify i just bought it, she saved 10mins of crap, i was looking for the receipt in the huff and it was actually in the bag with the jeans.

I bought something from game years ago and they never remove what ever security things they have in their games. I must have sounded off every alarm in the Square and I was never stopped by any security.

Mossy Monk

Tesco or another big chain like that wouldnt have a problem stealing from you

Sparky

Mossy Monk wrote:

Tesco or another big chain like that wouldnt have a problem stealing from you

c.unts:D

Somnus

Binomate wrote:

I bought something from game years ago and they never remove what ever security things they have in their games. I must have sounded off every alarm in the Square and I was never stopped by any security.

A thing like this happened with me in HMV, i got a cd and any shop i went into after that the alarm sounded. The security would look at me but seen as it went off asd i was going into the shop they didnt say anything

Mina Loy

Before getting a job in dunnes I woulda walked too but you have to remember..those people have been working on the tills for hours with ****ty breaKS and tonnes of customers every hour, most of whom are complete tits who waste your time complaining about the most retarded things, calling the managers etc and trying to get people in trouble (im serious.) When something like that happens its called 'variation' and if theres too much variation on someones till they get fired.. the girl was probably hella fatigued ...and got in trouble for it.

nlgbbbblth

Mossy Monk wrote:

Tesco or another big chain like that wouldnt have a problem stealing from you

Ironically Tesco are a lot cheaper than the 'small family newsagents' or whatever.

jesus_thats_gre

plazzTT wrote:

Small corner shops would be different though.

Why? They rip you off even more than super markets do!!!

nlgbbbblth

Anyone ever get charged the numerical UK price on magazines or newspapers?

Used happen a lot in pre-scanning days.

i.e. NME cost 40p sterling or 73p Irish in 1987.
Girl in shop would say '40p please' and I'd say nothing.

LOSERS

Lemlin

Walked into Burtons yesterday to buy a pair of combats. Said €48 on them. I told the girl at the till I was entitled to 10% discount as a student. I think she must of overrided the price to €10 when she trying to enter the percentage discount because she told mke they were a tenner and now down to €9. I just paid and left.

Can't see anything wrong with it. I didn't rob the place. She told me how much it was and I paid her. Not my fault if she made a mistake.

nlgbbbblth

jesus_thats_gre wrote:

Why? They rip you off even more than super markets do!!!

yeah

F'UCK THOSE GUYS

cormie

Mina Loy wrote:

the girl was probably hella fatigued ...and got in trouble for it.

I pointed out the mistake and paid though;)

Red Alert

where i worked the only thing you'd get done for is doing wrong change, like 20 change for a 10 note or the like. you couldn't override the price/discount without a manager key so if there was any irregularity the supervisor would have to answer for it. fair enough i think.

leeroybrown

An individual staff member is unlikely to get in trouble for an item being missing from stock. It's absence won't be noticed until the shop perform a stock take and it will then be put down to shoplifting.

Till errors (especially change) are the problem for the employee as they are tracable and in some cases their wages may be docked to cover the difference.

iguana

leeroybrown wrote:

An individual staff member is unlikely to get in trouble for an item being missing from stock. It's absence won't be noticed until the shop perform a stock take and it will then be put down to shoplifting.

In fact most stores operate on the assumtion that a certain amount of stock will be stolen. M&S budget that 3% of their stock will be stolen annually.

gaui3d0pnbz86o

last 3 time times ive been out for dinner i havent been charged for my drinks!

the first time about 2 weeks ago, down in westport, i wasnt charged for 4 cokes, i owned up and paid for them, barman said i shouldnt have as it was their error(but he still took the money) the next day i was out for a free fancy dinner and the drinks were supposed to be extra, now being free food i decided to get two bottles of decent wine which came to €50, i went to settle for the wine and they said i owed nothing as it was a free dinner(i figured that the wine would be added to the hotel room bill) settled the room bill the next day and no mention of the wine! score!!!

was out again yesterday for dinner in leixlip and i ordered wine but it never came so i asked another person who brought it down straight away!! the bill came later and no sign of the wine!

not too shabby for me!

steveland?

Dr.Poca wrote:

A thing like this happened with me in HMV, i got a cd and any shop i went into after that the alarm sounded. The security would look at me but seen as it went off asd i was going into the shop they didnt say anything

It's funny, whenever HMV forget to put the tag thingies over the magnetic thingymabob it never sets off the HMV security alarm, but it sets off every other one you go into...

I remember buying a DVD in HMV one time, didn't take the security thing off, went into Chapters, didn't set it off on the way in, walked out without buying (or stealing) anything, the alarm went off, they asked me if I had anything in my bag, opened it, showed them the HMV DVD with receipt, they put it over the magnetic thingy they had, I walked out again and the alarm didn't go off...

Weird that...

AdMMM

steveland? wrote:

It's funny, whenever HMV forget to put the tag thingies over the magnetic thingymabob it never sets off the HMV security alarm, but it sets off every other one you go into...

I remember buying a DVD in HMV one time, didn't take the security thing off, went into Chapters, didn't set it off on the way in, walked out without buying (or stealing) anything, the alarm went off, they asked me if I had anything in my bag, opened it, showed them the HMV DVD with receipt, they put it over the magnetic thingy they had, I walked out again and the alarm didn't go off...

Weird that...

You were probably just a pawn in the inter-store battle. Forcing other stores alarms to go off is an effective way of pushing up the costs to a retailer!

Sparky

one time my black and decker cordless drill broke 3 days after i got it, (the trigger) it had no hammer action, so i brought it back to homebase and asked for a replacement, the lad gave me the 50 euro exspensive version which had hammer action and a faster charger, i said nothing, but felt bad thinking that may get taken out of that guys wages.

Sarsfield

plazzTT wrote:

What Piste said.

I wouldn't care if it was at Tesco or somewhere (and neither would the most of the people working there I'd say).

Small corner shops would be different though.

But small corner shops are the biggest rip-off of the lot. Tesco is much cheaper. A pathetic approach to justifying an un-justifiable theft from a big store :rolleyes:

Sorry, jumped in with my comment before noting several other posters had spotted this gaffe already. At least I know I'm not the last honest person in Ireland

xzanti

Laguna wrote:

You're damn right. The way shops rip us off nowadays, it's poetic justice

F*ckin Sure

Blondie86Star

I am always so honest about change n everythin, even wen i was little, id always go back n say u gave me 20p more!

Siogfinsceal

cop on lads are ye mad take it as a nice thing to happen and walk out of the shop!! they are making more than enough profit as it is they will get over it!

magpie

The Juvenile Delinquent on the till probably thought "loser" as you pointed out their mistake and offered to give them more money.

rogue-entity

When they recind the groceries order, places like Tesco will be able to sell goods at cost price, passing on the savings to customers, lowering prices again.

I would have no problem getting away without paying for something, especialy if the product or service is a complete rip off. One reason why products in Ireland are more expensive is britain. Because britain is using its own, more expensive, currency, products sold to ireland from britain are more expensive.

Angels

Well as such you have done nothing wrong u put up all the items to shop assistant it is his/her job to make sure that they are all scanned & tags removed etc so technically your not at fault if someone were to question you!!

Fey!

I find it happens more in resteraunts, where they forget to charge for something. The funny thing about it is that when you point it out to them, a lot of places won't charge you for it because you've been honest about it!!!

Setun

Legally: Invitation to treat.

Price-tag doesn't actually mean the price of the good, it's what the cashier registers the price as.

<I think that's it anyway>

So you're ok! Unless you have morals or something

Prior Of Taize

plazzTT wrote:

I wouldn't care if it was at Tesco or somewhere

speaking of F*CKING TESCO!!!!1

I bought circa €11 worth of stuff in tesco. I hand the girl a €20 note. she hands me back €5 something. I look at the receipt. It says that i gave her €18 instead of a €20 note. deliberately doing that. what a c*nt.

Cactus Col

Depends on the person I'm dealing with, if it's someone who's been a total prick or bitch, then feck them I'll put my money back in my pocket, if however they've been cool, I'll point out the mistake.

segadreamcast

Cactus Col wrote:

Depends on the person I'm dealing with, if it's someone who's been a total prick or bitch, then feck them I'll put my money back in my pocket, if however they've been cool, I'll point out the mistake.

To everyone heralding the 'heroes' that are Tesco and cursing the 'villains' that are corner shop owners, perhaps you should watch this: http://jibjab.com/Movies/BoxMart.aspx

Most family-run (i.e. not Spar, Centra) independent corner shops are, as the name implies, independent. They cannot bulk buy like Tesco etc and, thus, they are buying at a more expensive price than Tesco. Furthermore, in order to pay their own wages, they obviously need to attach a higher profit margin to each item - as they'll sell far fewer items than the aforementioned omnipresent Tesco.

kenmc

Maybe they were giving you a 4-for-the-price-of-3 loyalty discount !?!?
sounds good to me.
Personally, on the odd occasion it has happened to me, I have been happy to accept their discount. It's not like I set out to do anything wrong, and it's very possible that you could not notice the discount until you'd gone home anyway.
When I was in college, one of the lads used work in the bar. Twas great to get a couple of pints off him, hand over a tenner note and get a tenner change in coins

seamus

If the items scans in at a lower price than marked on the shelf: They don't have to sell it, but you don't have to point it out. It's their mistake.

If they forget to scan something, and you don't notice: It's their problem.

If they forget to scan something, you do notice, but don't tell them: You're liable.

If they forget to scan something, you do notice, tell them, and they don't care: It's their problem.

Sleepy

leeroybrown wrote:

in some cases their wages may be docked to cover the difference.

If their employers are law-breaking cvnts, maybe.

It's illegal to dock a member of staff's wages for discrepencies they make through genuine mistake as legally at the time of the mistake they are acting as the company, not themselves.

Siogfinsceal

seamus wrote:

If the items scans in at a lower price than marked on the shelf: They don't have to sell it, but you don't have to point it out. It's their mistake.

If they forget to scan something, and you don't notice: It's their problem.

If they forget to scan something, you do notice, but don't tell them: You're liable.

If they forget to scan something, you do notice, tell them, and they don't care: It's their problem.

not really its not like they can prove you noticed if you dont say anything!

kenmc

seamus wrote:

If they forget to scan something, you do notice, but don't tell them: You're liable.

Maybe so, but short of a lie detector, how can they prove that you knew that they missed an item

Siogfinsceal

got somethin 4 10 instead of 17 euro the other day - turns out the girl only scanned one part of a 2 piece theres not even anyway the shop woul dknow it was her cos the item wasnt scanned so i didnt feel bad

ClareBear

cormie wrote:

So I was doing a bit of the oul shopping today and brought 4 items up to the till which I totted up in my head and got the cash ready for. All security tags removed, items packed, cash requested, I notice it's a LOT (1/4) less than what it should be and I'm sure one item has not been scanned. What do you do? Ask them are they sure that's the right amount or say nothing and get away without paying for that item?

Why don't things like that ever happen to me!