Niggar

Tar.Aldarion

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1526785946735331555

EDIT:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6149754563453670209
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5364956786605844832
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7342210206209696724
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4511700021036249808


google video ftw!

Binomate

Rofl!

madisona

actually don't find that at all funny. one joke skit that finds humour in the negative characteristics of black people.
**** with fat lips
**** who date daughters of white folk.
**** who are allowed to eat in an expensive restaurant.
**** who don't pay their bills.
The joke is that they are actually white people with the name Niggar. they are not offended so it is funny if a ****** would find any offence in such characterisations

The only people that would find this amusing are rascists.

pickarooney

swing and a miss there from madisona

Tar.Aldarion

madisona wrote:

actually don't find that at all funny. one joke skit that finds humour in the negative characteristics of black people.
**** with fat lips
**** who date daughters of white folk.
**** who are allowed to eat in an expensive restaurant.
**** who don't pay their bills.
The joke is that they are actually white people with the name Niggar. they are not offended so it is funny if a ****** would find any offence in such characterisations

The only people that would find this amusing are rascists.

Way to miss the point of it completely.
clap.

ferdi

madisona wrote:

actually don't find that at all funny. one joke skit that finds humour in the negative characteristics of black people.
**** with fat lips
**** who date daughters of white folk.
**** who are allowed to eat in an expensive restaurant.
**** who don't pay their bills.
The joke is that they are actually white people with the name Niggar. they are not offended so it is funny if a ****** would find any offence in such characterisations

The only people that would find this amusing are rascists.

niggar please!

BigCon

Completely agree with Madisona - can't see this crap lasting too long...

madisona

and what is the point.
a white Father expresses shock when his wife tells him that his daughter has "a date with a ******. boy from school" "Oh God NO " he exclaims.
The audience laughs uproariously at his reaction because they know whats coming. It isn't actually a ******. that she will be shagging but a white boy whose name is niggar. hirarious

Gone West

another retard to add to the ignore list.
Someone doesnt understand sarcasm or irony.

Tar.Aldarion

Em the joke is on(amongst other things) how people used to act and believe things like coloured people were inferior.
Do you get jokes?
sarcasm, irony?

EDIT: fuzzy got there first

BigCon

Yeah I know that, you know that, the op knows that, but there are still people out there who don't know that. IMO it's bad taste for that very reason.
Do you think an coloured person would be offended?

zAbbo

Dave Chappele said its funny

madisona

well ok. maybe I misunderstood.
the skit however was not produced with sarcasm or irony such as for example Borat's "Throw the jew down the well" It was intended to be amusing for those that believed black people to be inferiour. Don't get me wrong. I am not personnaly offended in the least but you did not make clear that it was meant to be looked at from a 21st century ironic perspective.

ferdi

Madisona = troll

BigCon

It's ok so:rolleyes:

Tar.Aldarion

BigCon wrote:

Yeah I know that, you know that, the op knows that, but there are still people out there who don't know that. IMO it's bad taste for that very reason.
Do you think an coloured person would be offended?

Yes I know that.
No I don't think a coloured person would be offended by it.They are acting in it on an american tv show.Why would they be?In films skits are made by both sides.What's the problem.Racists should get that the joke is on them.
It's bad taste because racists exist? give it a rest.
Have you ever watched tv, it should be banned!!1212

Tar.Aldarion

madisona wrote:

well ok. maybe I misunderstood.
the skit however was not produced with sarcasm or irony such as for example Borat's "Throw the jew down the well" It was intended to be amusing for those that believed black people to be inferiour. Don't get me wrong. I am not personnaly offended in the least but you did not make clear that it was meant to be looked at from a 21st century ironic perspective.

Lol, Jokes don't need to be explained
What other perspective would we look at it in?
I don't know borats joke you are on about but by your reasoning he should be shot.

EDIT: that is not who it is intended for ,it was on the dace chappele show.

BigCon

Ok, didn't know it was contemporary.:o
Carry on my brothers

madisona

A racist would not see that the joke was on him. he would think that it was funny and an affirmation of his beliefs.

I did not know that it was contemporary either. If it is the context is completely different and I appear to have suffered an irony deficit. and you're right . jokes shouldn't need to be explained

still son't think that it's funny though

Tar.Aldarion

Well how about if you don't find it funny you don't make accusations that anybody that does is a racist.
If a group of people that are clearly not racist start making jokes on a huge television show in america and it is let on air by coloured people you think a racist would believe it was affirming his/her beliefs?
I doubt even they are that ignorant.
If that clip was made in a basement by only white people then you may have a case but it wasn't.

zAbbo

Have you ever seen Chappelles show, or are you going to continue to act the retard?

Nice work Tar.Aldarion, on ousting this mong

FX Meister

That sucks major ass, with two straws. Worse than Sinbad

danniemcq

Why the f*ck are people tryin to be so politically correct these days, bring back the attitude of british comedy in the 70's and 80's. that was a brilliant era before everyone suddenly got sticks shoved where the sun rarely shines.

as long as it's done in such a way that it isn't a form of abusive language or things like that i don't see any problem. Call me an alcoholic Paddy any day of the week i find no harm in it

Tar.Aldarion

bazH wrote:

Nice work Tar.Aldarion, on ousting this mong

Nobody diss' one of my jokes and gets off the hook

Tar.Aldarion

danniemcq wrote:

Call me an alcoholic Paddy any day of the week i find no harm in it

That's because that is what you are


This is more twisted than Sinbad's take on marraige.

madisona

In my country there is problem
And that problem is the Jew
They take everybody money
And they never give it back


Throw the jew down the well
So my country can be free )
You must grab him by his horns
Then we have a big party

http://inhonor.net/videos/uped/fl_video.php?f_num=92500

madisona

once again i have never seen Chappelles show and did not know that it was contemporary or it was being presented in an ironic context.

FX Meister

Tar.Aldarion wrote:

....and it is let on air by coloured people you think a racist would believe it was affirming his/her beliefs?
I doubt even they are that ignorant.

I can't believe you actually referred to black people as "coloured". Once again you show your ignorance on this forum.

ferdi

madisona wrote:

http://inhonor.net/videos/uped/fl_video.php?f_num=92500

great link, i love that clip:)

Tar.Aldarion

FX Meister wrote:

I can't believe you actually referred to black people as "coloured". Once again you show your ignorance on this forum.

Do you get anything tbh
http://www.encounter.co.za/article/25.html :v:

two people have been sated, let's see how long you can last.

FX Meister

danniemcq wrote:

Call me an alcoholic Paddy any day of the week i find no harm in it

Even if it just perpetuates a negative sterotype?

Tar.Aldarion

FX Meister wrote:

Even if it just perpetuates a negative sterotype?

Are you the kind of person that punches somebody if they make a joke about you because you sound like it.

Also show me where my 'ignorance' has been elsewhere on this forum please.

madisona

indeed. you should consider the negative effect that the characterisation of yourself in that way will have on the perception of irish people in general and the fact that it will help to perpetuate a negative and outdated stereotype.

MarkR

It's all a play on a deragatory word, so ironic or not, I don't think it's suitable.

FX Meister

Tar.Aldarion wrote:

Do you get anything tbh
http://www.encounter.co.za/article/25.html :v:

two people have been sated, let's see how long you can last.

Ahh yeah you have me there, I was thinking that comedy central was a U.S. television station. But as you pointed out to me, it's actually South African.

You might as well add arrogance to your list of negative traits. Get out in the world a little bit more and learn yourself some education.

madisona

indeed. nobody in the states refers to blacks as "coloureds".
africian americans is the politically correct terminology

FX Meister

Tar.Aldarion You made a number of ignorant statements about vegetarianism here before. The web pages you quoted from were completely inaccurate and served to prove the very opposite of your argument. Then when you realized this you just put your head in the sand and started name calling.

Tar.Aldarion

FX Meister wrote:

Ahh yeah you have me there, I was thinking that comedy central was a U.S. television station. But as you pointed out to me, it's actually South African.

No you inferred that I used coloured as an offensive term whereas I did not, It is continuing along the same lines of the joke that if i say something ironically that that makes me a racist.http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Coloured
Then I made another joke saying i meant the 'coloured people' of south africa and still you do not get it.

You might as well add arrogance to your list of negative traits. Get out in the world a little bit more and learn yourself some education.

Oh now I am arrogant, go on where does that come out of?Maybe That I think that you have half a brain then you would get a joke?
where were all these outraged replies that i got about the original joke when I said coloured, maybe people can get jokes on the humour forum,who knows.

Tar.Aldarion

FX Meister wrote:

Tar.Aldarion You made a number of ignorant statements about vegetarianism here before. The web pages you quoted from were completely inaccurate and served to prove the very opposite of your argument. Then when you realized this you just put your head in the sand and started name calling.

That has never happened.I have never name called and only once have I brought up a ridiculous PETA link for people to laugh at so go on substantiate the unsubstantiated.
Link.

madisona

Quote:
Originally Posted by FX Meister
Even if it just perpetuates a negative sterotype?

Tar.Aldarion wrote:

Are you the kind of person that punches somebody if they make a joke about you because you sound like it.

Also show me where my 'ignorance' has been elsewhere on this forum please.

eh. FX Meister made a remark about someone who characterised themselves as an alcoholic paddy. His remark was clearly intended to be ironic.
however you Tar seem to have failed to realize this. Perhaps you should ask sombody to explain irony to you. touche

Gone West

hehe paul.
Collected a nice few new names for my boards.ie ignorelist killfile of doom, this thread has.

Tar.Aldarion

madisona wrote:

Quote:
Originally Posted by FX Meister
Even if it just perpetuates a negative sterotype?



eh. FX Meister made a remark about someone who characterised themselves as an alcoholic paddy. His remark was clearly intended to be ironic.
however you Tar seem to have failed to realize this. Perhaps you should ask sombody to explain irony to you. touche

haha nice one but the fact is that he wasn't intending to be ironic as it is clear that that is not his personality

hehe paul.
Collected a nice few new names for my boards.ie ignorelist killfile of doom, this thread has

aye, great craic.
I can bring them out like nobodies business.
I'm gonna post about the war in iraq next to see who I can help add to your list :v:

FX Meister

You used an outdated and derogatory term, just because you don't know it shouldn't be used doesn't mean it's ok. It's just ignorant. But you still think you are in the right and in a very overbearing way. That's just arrogant.
But there's no point arguing with you over it. Unfortunately all I can do is look down on you and feel sorry for you. Enjoy the rest of you evening. I won't be back.

Tar.Aldarion

FX Meister wrote:

You used an outdated and derogatory term, just because you don't know it shouldn't be used doesn't mean it's ok. It's just ignorant. But you still think you are in the right and in a very overbearing way. That's just arrogant.
But there's no point arguing with you over it. Unfortunately all I can do is look down on you and feel sorry for you. Enjoy the rest of you evening. I won't be back.

Oh nice one bow out when I explain my joke,at least fuzzy was smart enough to get it.I doubt you even know that the black people called THEMSELVES coloured in the video as a joke.Sigh. I have explained that it is derogatory and even linked you to a definition of it being so.

'No you inferred that I used coloured as an offensive term whereas I did not, It is continuing along the same lines of the joke that if i say something ironically that that makes me a racist.http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Coloured
Then I made another joke saying i meant the 'coloured people' of south africa and still you do not get it.'


Then you make a ridiculous claim about my activities in the vegetarian / vegan forum and then don't link.
You w1n.

Tar.Aldarion

So that's clip one talked about. Lets move on to the rest and get some appreciated feedback. :v:

Tar.Aldarion

madisona wrote:

In my country there is problem
And that problem is the Jew
They take everybody money
And they never give it back


Throw the jew down the well
So my country can be free )
You must grab him by his horns
Then we have a big party

http://inhonor.net/videos/uped/fl_video.php?f_num=92500

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051114/od_uk_nm/oukoe_uk_kazakhstan_borat

:eek:

danniemcq

FX Meister wrote:

Even if it just perpetuates a negative sterotype?

i don't find it negative, i actually find it quite funny, some of my friends that don't drink (shock horror) have no problem with it and even people i know that aren't called paddy are ok with it

madisona wrote:

indeed. you should consider the negative effect that the characterisation of yourself in that way will have on the perception of irish people in general and the fact that it will help to perpetuate a negative and outdated stereotype.

see above

La Cucaracha

they're from the dave chappelle show, my american flatmate showed me that ages ago, thought it was gas!

this is the humor forum right?

NotMe

La Cucaracha wrote:

this is the humor forum right?

Yer I think some people are confusing it with humanities

Anyway the clip is hilarious :v:

Atrocity

madisona wrote:

A racist would not see that the joke was on him. he would think that it was funny and an affirmation of his beliefs.

that is just ridiculous. who could possibly watch that and see it as an affirmation of any beliefs, it's obviously an over-the-top joke. This PC bullsh*t is gettin old. Grow up a bit.

Devon

You would absolutely need to have seen his show to appreciate the humour. The "Niggar Family" segment is from S02E02 and a vast amount of the audience are black. He gives a great intoduction to the segment and why he did it in the first place. You really would need a little background on it before you see it to "get" the humour.

On a side note, he's hailed as being one the most intelligent comedians on the earth today. He did another good segment on the same show extracting the urine out of McDonalds for an ad they ran which emphasised how many african american staff they employ.

Get this episode if you can.