Idiot Driver Photos!

HelterSkelter

Post all your photos here of drivers being idiots, e.g. stopping in yellow boxes, blocking junctions, parking in disabled parking spaces, running red lights, driving at night with no headlights on, etc etc

I'll get the ball rolling with a photo taken in Crumlin yesterday of a stupid woman driver blocking a yellow box...

Slydice

does this include videos of twits swerving in and out of traffic at heuston station?

Seth Brundle

I work beside the Abbey St. entrance to the Jervis Centre. There is a yellow box junction where the luas lines cross Jervis St.
Every day, I see people parking on the box junction, taking illegal left & right turns, coming out of the jervis centre and turning left, the wrong way down a 1 way street,...
If I was to take pics of them all I would end up using all the boards.ie webspace!

If I was to take pics of the stupid pedestrians and cyclists Id never get time to work!

ciarsd

I am not being sexist here, but of late, the amount of lady drivers i've flashed to try warn them to put on their lights at night is just gone stupid.

Main culprits are usually coming out of shopping centres. How the heck they don't cop it or me, flashing them I don't know.

Big Nelly

ciarsd wrote:

I am not being sexist here, but of late, the amount of lady drivers i've flashed to try warn them to put on their lights at night is just gone stupid.

Main culprits are usually coming out of shopping centres. How the heck they don't cop it or me, flashing them I don't know.

Well the best was yesterday at Blanch shopping centre....bloke in a big jeep driving around with no lights on...everyone flashing and not a bother on him......was driving for about 5-10 mins till he hit lights...guy in front of me hopped oiut....went to window and told him to turn them on!!

Maccattack

All the fault doesnt lie with the drivers. Although i do believe Irish drivers are some of the worst in the world.

The govt and RTA have to take a huge chunk of the blame. The roads in this country are rubbish. It is little wonder people take the action they sometimes do.

We pay huge taxes but I dont see much of it going into roads.

Have you ever driven to or from Cork or Limerick on a wet night. You are taking your life into your own hands. The fact that more people arent killed on Irish roads is a miracle and probably more to do with driver caution than Garda presence or government action.

HelterSkelter

Maccattack wrote:

All the fault doesnt lie with the drivers. Although i do believe Irish drivers are some of the worst in the world.

The govt and RTA have to take a huge chunk of the blame. The roads in this country are rubbish. It is little wonder people take the action they sometimes do.

We pay huge taxes but I dont see much of it going into roads.

Have you ever driven to or from Cork or Limerick on a wet night. You are taking your life into your own hands. The fact that more people arent killed on Irish roads is a miracle and probably more to do with driver caution than Garda presence or government action.

What the hell are you on about??!! What has the Government and the RTA got to do with arseholes stopping in yellow boxes??? Have you replied in the wrong thread or something?!!

BME

Maccattack wrote:

We pay huge taxes but I dont see much of it going into roads.

u jokin?? what abour the new M1 from Dublin to Dundalk, that didnt just appear out of nowhere....

Seth Brundle

The govt & RTA do have a part to play as if there was any enforcement of simple laws then people would quickly learn!

Maccattack

you know what im taliking about.

Traffic jams are EVERYWHERE. YOu cant go anywhere without sitting in traffic for longer than neccessary.

Because of this people get impatient and do things like move into yellow boxes when they should wait for it to be totally clear.

You cant really blame them and dont tell me you NEVER do it. Everybody does at some point. sometimes you dont mean to. you think the traffic is moving then it stops just as you hit the yellow box.

If the government put some real money into traffic flow and improved the roads things wouldnt be anywhere near as bad.

dudara

Just an aside, but is it OK to display the number plates of cars in such photos?

Seth Brundle

@ dudara - I would imagine that its not OK!

HelterSkelter

Maccattack wrote:

you know what im taliking about.

Traffic jams are EVERYWHERE. YOu cant go anywhere without sitting in traffic for longer than neccessary.

Because of this people get impatient and do things like move into yellow boxes when they should wait for it to be totally clear.

You cant really blame them and dont tell me you NEVER do it. Everybody does at some point. sometimes you dont mean to. you think the traffic is moving then it stops just as you hit the yellow box.

If the government put some real money into traffic flow and improved the roads things wouldnt be anywhere near as bad.

There are traffic jams in every large city in the world, it's a fact of life, get used to it. There is nothing the Government can do short of banning cars from the streets.

In the photo I took the traffic was stopped well before the driver approached, she had a clear view of the yellow box but still drove into it.

HelterSkelter

dudara wrote:

Just an aside, but is it OK to display the number plates of cars in such photos?

I presume so, it's not like I am making any accusation about the driver. I am showing a picture of the driver breaking one of the rules of the road. I can't think of any reason why it would not be allowed. If anyone knows of one please let me know.

WizZard

dudara wrote:

Just an aside, but is it OK to display the number plates of cars in such photos?

My first thought too. In this case, it's probably ok, since the car is clearly flouting the law by stopping on a hatched area, but in a different situation it could be taken as libel.

I'd advise anyone posting pics in this thread to delete the number plate from the pic, before posting.

Maccattack

kbannon wrote:

The govt & RTA do have a part to play as if there was any enforcement of simple laws then people would quickly learn!

Yeah, and thats their normal response. Penalise the motorist rather than do something that actually reduces impatience.

Fining people is not the answer. all it does is create bigger traffic jams and tail backs.

we need better roads not just more roads.

Most city to city roads in Ireland are single lane. You get stuck behind a semi for half an hour without an overtaking lane. You see a break, you take it.

Its dangerous yes. But until the roads are improved people will continue to do it.

I do agree that laws should be enforced - especially that THE RIGHT LANE IS FOR OVERTAKING - but strict laws alone will not solve the problem. Alone they will increase it.

Bluetonic

WizZard wrote:

My first thought too. In this case, it's probably ok, since the car is clearly flouting the law by stopping on a hatched area, but in a different situation it could be taken as libel.

I'd say that becasue you can't prove from the photograph that the car is in a stationary position I'd say its inconclusive that the car is flouting the law.

Eoin

Bluetonic wrote:

I'd say that becasue you can't prove from the photograph that the car is in a stationary position I'd say its inconclusive that the car is flouting the law.

Also, if the driver had just make a right turn onto the road from a driveway on the other side, would he/she not be entitled to be in the box?

Keyzer

eoin_s wrote:

Also, if the driver had just make a right turn onto the road from a driveway on the other side, would he/she not be entitled to be in the box?

No...

ballooba

Doesn't matter a hoot when it comes to libel. there are several tests to a libel action.

One of these would be that the statement uttered would be likely to lower the opinion of the person in the eyes of a right thinking member of society.

Whether a right thinking member of society would give a flying feck about whether the woman is a bad driver is debatable and unlikely to be upheld.

The utterance that she is stupid is not a statment but merely an insult and thus doesn't fall under defamation law.

Now is this the law forum or can we get back on topic.

SouperComputer

pointless thread IMO

bp_me

Keyzer wrote:

No...

Yes...provided the driver was not blocking the right of way of any other road user.

HelterSkelter

SouperComputer wrote:

pointless thread IMO

Pointless response IMO!

If you have no interest then just skip to the next thread.

mike65

When posting pictures, first make sure they are actualy breaking the law and second blank the reg number. Think of Devs children! Anyone who just posts pix for fun will be banned.

Mike.

Seth Brundle

bp_me wrote:

Yes...provided the driver was not blocking the right of way of any other road user.

I don't think that s correct - From memory, you must not stop on a box junction at all!

bp_me

kbannon wrote:

I don't think that s correct - From memory, you must not stop on a box junction at all!

It's definately ok to stop when turning right provided you are not blocking the right of way of another road user.....I may be wrong about turning into it, but I'm not 100% sure.

Squirrel

kbannon wrote:

I don't think that s correct - From memory, you must not stop on a box junction at all!

Is the point of a box junction not to allow people out at junctions

Seth Brundle

bp_me wrote:

It's definately ok to stop when turning right provided you are not blocking the right of way of another road user.....I may be wrong about turning into it, but I'm not 100% sure.

OK - my bad - from http://www.nsc.ie/Kidsroom/Bsafe/RoadMarkings/

Do not enter the box unless your exit road or lane is clear, except to turn right.

AnnaStezia

A lot of responsibility rests on the roads engineers who are responsible for the layouts. Some road junctions - especially in suburbia - are woefully designed and it is no wonder that people end up in the wrong places on the road at the wrong time. I think that some of these layouts - signage and signals included - are fine examples of " engineered in " defects.

As far as I now you are permitted to enter and remain stationary on a box junction if you are turning right. Mind you I better get this clear as I think that we will get penalty points in the future when that system is fully implemented.

Incidentally, why the hell do we have to buy copies of the Rules of the Road in this country. Driving standards are so low they should be distributed free to every household along with the next batch of iodine tablets (mine are now out of date !).

sharkman

kbannon wrote:

I don't think that s correct - From memory, you must not stop on a box junction at all!

AFAIK , you can only stop in a box junction when preparing to turn right ..


HOw to use a box ...Here : http://www.2pass.co.uk/boxjunction.htm

Should this thread not just be part of what I saw today , subsection "Stupid"

Seth Brundle

sharkman wrote:

AFAIK , you can only stop in a box junction when preparing to turn right ..


HOw to use a box ...Here : http://www.2pass.co.uk/boxjunction.htm

Should this thread not just be part of what I saw today , subsection "Stupid"

did you by any chance read my post just up above a small bit?

sharkman

kbannon wrote:

did you by any chance read my post just up above a small bit?

OOps , sorry , now me bad . Got as far as "I don't think that s correct - From memory, you must not stop on a box junction at all!" and jumped right in ..

My apologies

Seth Brundle

sharkman wrote:

OOps , sorry , now me bad . Got as far as "I don't think that s correct - From memory, you must not stop on a box junction at all!" and jumped right in ..

My apologies

forgiven!

Angels

Im not changing the subject or anything but would you say that lanes in most citys in Ireland ie Cork in my case, people do not know which lanes to use so they cut across traffic in the other lanes??

BrianD3

Lads, the rules for box junctions debate has already been done to death.
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=2759927

Seth Brundle

Angels wrote:

Im not changing the subject or anything but would you say that lanes in most citys in Ireland ie Cork in my case, people do not know which lanes to use so they cut across traffic in the other lanes??

try Dublin's South quays where lane directions turn abruptly and if you are not familiar then you will end up in the wrong lane. A similar situation exists on many of the roundabouts above the M50.

johnnyrotten

It is okay to stop in a yellow box when you are turning right. Somethingthat seems to have crept in lately is people sitting behind the yellow box when turning right. This causes delays.
The sitting in this box is known as "Taking control of the junction"

unkel

kbannon wrote:

try Dublin's South quays where lane directions turn abruptly and if you are not familiar then you will end up in the wrong lane

Those "lanes" are shocking. I'm surprised there aren't more accidents there

_Kaiser_

Theres a lot of roads like that.. unless you know the area its very easy to be in the wrong lane.. I got caught like that on the south quays the first time, then I learned to just stick in the right hand lane all the way down.

Coming down the N1 towards the airport is the same. Unless you're careful (and ignore the signs pointing you towards the city) you'll end up on the M1 - fine unless you have an L plate on the car

Same thing happened to me on the N4.. was following the signs for Tallaght and next thing I'm on the M50 and no way to move back across due to the kerbed divide between lanes.

Of more serious concern though is the total lack of lighting along most of the N2/N3.. especially at junctions known to be dangerous and in conditions like this evening....I was suprised there was only the one accident on the way home

Big Nelly

Kaiser2000 wrote:

Theres a lot of roads like that.. unless you know the area its very easy to be in the wrong lane.. I got caught like that on the south quays the first time, then I learned to just stick in the right hand lane all the way down.

Coming down the N1 towards the airport is the same. Unless you're careful (and ignore the signs pointing you towards the city) you'll end up on the M1 - fine unless you have an L plate on the car

Same thing happened to me on the N4.. was following the signs for Tallaght and next thing I'm on the M50 and no way to move back across due to the kerbed divide between lanes.

Of more serious concern though is the total lack of lighting along most of the N2/N3.. especially at junctions known to be dangerous and in conditions like this evening....I was suprised there was only the one accident on the way home

And it wasnt you for a change???? the N3 is safe for another evening.....lmao:D

HelterSkelter

kbannon wrote:

try Dublin's South quays where lane directions turn abruptly and if you are not familiar then you will end up in the wrong lane. A similar situation exists on many of the roundabouts above the M50.

Yeah, there is one junction on the south quays heading for hueston where on one side of the junction you are in the correct lane but when you pass the junction you end up in between two lanes. It's a complete joke.

Angels

is it just me then that thinks theses so called lanes are so confusing to some drivers that they take a guess when drivin inner city??

_Kaiser_

Angels wrote:

is it just me then that thinks theses so called lanes are so confusing to some drivers that they take a guess when drivin inner city??

I think the answer is no..it's not just you. It IS very confusing. And signs at the edge of the road about 50m from the turnoff doesn't help either

dealgan

HelterSkelter wrote:

In the photo I took the traffic was stopped well before the driver approached, she had a clear view of the yellow box but still drove into it.

Sounds like the time I was a passenger with a Learner driver, who rightly stopped before the yellow box. The twat behind was flashing lights & beeping before swerving out around the L-driver and stopping nicely in the yellow box.

Twats.

_Kaiser_

dealgan wrote:

Sounds like the time I was a passenger with a Learner driver, who rightly stopped before the yellow box. The twat behind was flashing lights & beeping before swerving out around the L-driver and stopping nicely in the yellow box.

Twats.

Common courtesy is also something lost on muppets like that.. eg: if in slow moving traffic, or a red light is ahead with traffic already stopped at it, I'd usually let a car or two through a junction. Couple of times now you'll get the idiot behind me beeping and such. I usually just look in the mirror and tell them to "go away" (well not quite what I say but can't say things like that here - think of the children!:))

Saruman

HelterSkelter wrote:

Yeah, there is one junction on the south quays heading for hueston where on one side of the junction you are in the correct lane but when you pass the junction you end up in between two lanes. It's a complete joke.

I dont have a problem with the way it changes at that point.. i assume you mean on the way to heuston right? there are 2 of them i think where the bus lane turns into a turn left and traffic swerves to the right a bit... however the lines on the road are perfectly obvious. I know im used to it but i was fine when i first went through it. I do see idiots cutting into lanes there. I just cant see how they do, they must not be paying attention.

Seth Brundle

They are not perfectly obvious. At least one of these swerves occurs just after a bridge and is not visible until you are right on it.
Also with wet night-time traffic, it can be hard to see the lines IIRC.