Jesus christ,

Pet

I have had e-****ing-NOUGH of the Strokes. Every single one of my friends, who usually have good taste in music, is brainwashed by NME and Rolling Stone and all these hip, trendy music-for-ponces rags.

The Strokes (and the Libertines too) are CRAP. Their songs ALL sound THE SAME, the lead "singer" can't sing for nuts - he just makes vague groaning sounds. The guitars are RUBBISH (you'd think with three guitars being played they would manage to come up with something decent, wouldn't you? Well, you'd be wrong.), the drummer is USELESS (give a duracell bunny a drumkit and he'd do a better job), and the bassist epitomises "mediocre".

I've tried to listen to them, to see what it is other people like about them. I have come to believe that I was absent the day the music world was brainwashed by the US government into listening to (and liking) complete and utter pap.

Or perhaps it's a conspiracy by the American Bible-belters? Maybe they were sick of their children being "polluted" by "Satan's music", and decided to formulate the blandest, most boring, uninteresting, talentless piece-of-**** band they could, in order to turn the world away from music?

Because the songs themselves couldn't be farther from distinctive. I listened to the album twice, and in both successions I couldn't distinguish one capsule of boredom from the next. Each mindless, useless, unimaginative formulaic song led into the next, in a miasma of sheer drivel. I can't believe that on a couple of million liner notes, that puppet of a frontman got credit for being a "songwriter". I just can't.

I mean, at least the Spice Girls could (barely) sing. And their songs were (somewhat) catchy. But not so The Strokes. If they had even 10 seconds of interest in their song, their vacuous heads would explode, sending those pretty faces and that beautifully "hip" hair flying across the room to splatter into a wall.




But you know, maybe that wouldn't be such a bad thing after all.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

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do you want to talk about it?

Zombienosh

well i totally agree....
i hate all this boring ****e :mad:

neGev

Now THAT, my friends, is how to rant.
Incredibly well said

Pugsley

A well written informative post, which I have to agree with

Civilian_Target

I remember a classic quote from one of the guys in my English classes when first big strokes album came about. Some guy had just come in late, and the teacher said "Every day you arrive late, it's always the same, the same, the same." Then he paused, and one of the guys down the back said "Sounds like a Strokes album sir".

To which the teacher said "The Strokes? I guess if you're going to have a band that plays repeditive music, thats a rather apt name."

Deadwing

Id agree. A couple of my friends had thier first album and thought it was the dogs bollocks for about a week then got bored to tears of it. I just dont listen tot hem cause ive never really been one for hip trendy bands.
Theyre the kind of 'rock' band its okay for people who wear calvin klien to like :rolleyes:
And while were ranting about sh!te bands, im surprised noones mentioned the thrills yet. Now THATS an ironically apt name for one of the dullest, most miserable whey faced, whining wretch of a band. Seems like they took all the creativeness of Wilco, dulled it down, removed any kind of emotion, and sold it to MTV.
'Whatevar haaaaaapened...zzzzzzzz..to corey....zzzzzzzzz...haaaaaaim, haaaaaaim...wake me up when the songs over...haaaaaaaaaaim'

Pet

Deadwing wrote:

Id agree. A couple of my friends had thier first album and thought it was the dogs bollocks for about a week then got bored to tears of it. I just dont listen tot hem cause ive never really been one for hip trendy bands.
Theyre the kind of 'rock' band its okay for people who wear calvin klien to like :rolleyes:
And while were ranting about sh!te bands, im surprised noones mentioned the thrills yet. Now THATS an ironically apt name for one of the dullest, most miserable whey faced, whining wretch of a band. Seems like they took all the creativeness of Wilco, dulled it down, removed any kind of emotion, and sold it to MTV.
'Whatevar haaaaaapened...zzzzzzzz..to corey....zzzzzzzzz...haaaaaaim, haaaaaaim...wake me up when the songs over...haaaaaaaaaaim'

Heh, that reminds me of when an American relative was visiting here recently, she was all "I apologise on behalf of America for George Bush and his crimes against humanity", so I said "Well, we apologise on behalf of Ireland for The Thrills and their crimes against music"..

(an uncharacteristically witty moment admittedly.)

honru

The Strokes are a real good band. While they're not the second coming, it's not The Strokes' problem that they were risen to god-like status by the press, just cause they were bored. Look at the full picture first.

therecklessone

Deadwing wrote:

And while were ranting about sh!te bands, im surprised noones mentioned the thrills yet. Now THATS an ironically apt name for one of the dullest, most miserable whey faced, whining wretch of a band.

What about their 3rd rate clones Hal? Dire dire dire!

ferdi

rant/

do you all remember the episode of The Simpsons with 'the leader' ("na na na na na na Leader, leader, batman....") remeber the low nutrient gruel the people were fed so that they would have no resistence to the leader - this bland music is exactly the same.

music is food for the soul and if you listen to dull, flat, flavorless, insipid music, you (or your soul) will also have no resistence, no fire, no passion. this is what the strokes and other such music is - poison for the soul.

this music is all part of the űber sanitised society we "live" in today, most popular music is effected by intensly hygenic bull****, all the same...a great homogenous goo of sappy crappy soul killing ****. it goes hand in hand with this society in which people are terrified to stand out, be different or, the biggest sin of all, NOT BE TRENDY!!!

this is all a massive conspiricy to keep the people down. if religion was the opiet of the people and religion is on the decline, the powers that be now need a new tool to keep the people down. this tool is the bland trendy society which has been created exaples of this change: reality tv, the death of mtv, music like the strokes and the constant fear which is present in society today of some attack or economic failure of some kind or health risks. no one can speak out about anything or else they are a terrorist or a racist. if you say anything which does not run with the norm you are automatically labled a crazy fanatic and are ignored.

i'm too lazy to rant further but check out the lyrics to 'the seperation of church and skate' by nofx.

Doctor J

Ah look, there has always been crap music, through every generation. You'll find it's usually pimped by the media at the behest of record companies looking to make some $$$ from a few shells before they invent the "next big thing".

If you want to avoid crap music, then avoid MTV. Avoid the mainstream radio stations. Avoid the pulp music media who are always telling you what band are the new old band (NME etc).

You'll find great new music by talking to people and going to see bands, by checking out sites on the internet. There isn't really an excuse anymore to be subjected to shyte music. It's never been easier to find good music.

Civilian_Target

Deadwing wrote:

im surprised noones mentioned the thrills yet. Now THATS an ironically apt name for one of the dullest, most miserable whey faced, whining wretch of a band.

Correct. I'd never listen to them until i saw them at witness last year, because people had recommended them. They were playing and I was bored, so I decided to leave, and couldn't get over the number of people trying to get into the tent to see them?! Its amazing what a little MTV will do, especially since a lot of the stuff on it is just sheeeite!

Deadwing

Well i dont have cable so im stuck with MTV ireland...which is, in all fairness, dross. It doesnt even play music anymore ffs. As Doc J said tho the good music is out there waiting to be found on the internet, on forums like this very one!
Right now im listening to

Mad capsule markets
Tool
Meshuggah
Melvins
Interpol

Some of it may not be 'new' music, but its alot better than the sh!te you find in 'popular' media :rolleyes:

Bottle_of_Smoke

always thought they were axtermely bland and very drab at oxegen

like last night tho

projectmayhem

most bands these days with "the" at the beginning are pure **** distilled into crappy cd's with 70's haircuts and ****ty artwork on their album sleeves.

Pugsley

A great place I have found to find some great metal bands from all genres apart from black/death would be Bloodstock, some superb bands there, I particularly recommend EVergrey + Threshold who played this year. But not only does Bloodstock show some awsome larger bands (Bodom, Sonata, and Gammaray) but theres also so many excellent bands that arent quite so big, there wasnt a band on the main stage I wouldnt like to hear again some time.

Waltons

I'd agree in relation to most of what you're saying, although I think they're good for a quick listen but there's no real substance to their music. However, while the bass and drum statements are DEFINITELY true for the Strokes (that rhythm section is absolutely appalling) I don't agree if you're saying that same for the Libertines drummer. He's not half bad, and I wouldn't put him in the same category as Mr Straight Beat Strokes Drummer. He's no Peart or Bonham, but he's not bad.

Jim

I liked The Strokes first album, thought it was rather excellent infact. But I got bored of it quickly, didn't care too much for the second album.

Tbh they are part of this reinvention of rock n' roll to appeal to the trendier better off class of people. Tbh the whole point about rock (and many other types of music) is that it is supposed to be somewhat challenging. People living in countries with a bad economy or society will listen to this type of music. Whereas more comfortable nations aren't interested in being challanged. They want music to listen to around the coffee table.

The Strokes fall into the catagory of a band who are slightly alternative and well marketed for people who aren't really all that into music, people who will generally listen to what their radio tells them to (The Hives, The Thrills etc...)

Sarky

Who are the strokes?

Pet

I don't agree if you're saying that same for the Libertines drummer. He's not half bad, and I wouldn't put him in the same category as Mr Straight Beat Strokes Drummer. He's no Peart or Bonham, but he's not bad.

Yeah, I had noticed that alright. He's the best of a bad lot.

What really annoys me though, are these trendy music magazines. I used to think that Metal Hammer et al were rubbish for people who liked pure noise. But I'm beginning to see the attraction with it - at least fashion doesn't impinge on the music, unlike in say NME. I can tell you one thing - I'll be glad to see the death of the "The ___" phase of music, and its associated lackeys, because it was largely crap.

Sarky

Come on, now, The Who were rather good...

Civilian_Target

Yeah, The is generally a bad sign, but there are some excellent exceptions though.

Hell, even The The are ****e (and also very hard to find on google)

John

Civilian_Target wrote:

Yeah, The is generally a bad sign, but there are some excellent exceptions though.

Hell, even The The are ****e (and also very hard to find on google)

I think The The are class!

I think most music magazines are only fit for wiping your arse with, the only one I like is the Wire but it's useless if you want to find out about normal music.

Civilian_Target

I've never really read music magazines, I just try people's recommendations, and I've found my own way as a result.

And I don't like The The....

RE*AC*TOR

Sometime you just really wan to hear something different so invariably end up buying a crappy magazine. I've even went as far as to try Amazon.com's editors picks - which despite having a lot of crap did lead me to Ted Leo and The Phamacists.

2+2=5

ah i think the strokes are pretty good... the guitarists are fairly talented compared to most... id like to see you, Mr.Pet write guitar like reptilia, very well written in my opinion... if you wanna talk about terrible bands, pick on franz ferdinand, or the futureheads

2+2=5

you'd like to the death of the "the_____" phase of music? what? man you must no nothing about good music.. and "the_____" bands have been around for "yonks".......
THE doors
THE who
THE divine comedy
THE band
queens of THE stone age (haha sorry had to add that :-p)

Epitaph

/agrees with topic - The Strokes are abyssmal, like listening to a dirge with a bungee cord Doppler-shifting the rhythm.

I'm quite taken with The Shins - their Chutes Too Narrow has got some (Heaven preserve me for saying this) quite catchy tunes on it.

Waltons

You know he's not talking about The Who and The Doors now, in all fairness. I'm going to have to disagree about Reptilia. I think any number of other bands could've written that song.
And saying he doesn't 'no' anything about decent music because he wants the end of The ____ music is a tad harsh.

2+2=5

well they both are "the" bands.... thats like me saying, oh i cant wait for the end of bands which are only 1 word names... tad bit unintelligent

John

No, it's not a thing like that. By saying "The ____" bands, we all know he's talking about this current wave of bands that all have "The ____" names and all sound the same. Stop being a pedantic muppet.

Waltons

I keep thinking of that Sum 41 video in which the record label are trying to get them to change their name to "The Sums". I think it's THIS kind of mentality that we're talking about, not the original Thes

Pet

Waltons wrote:

I keep thinking of that Sum 41 video in which the record label are trying to get them to change their name to "The Sums". I think it's THIS kind of mentality that we're talking about, not the original Thes

Yes, it is. And if 2+2=5 wasn't such a pedantic muppet (well put) he'd realise that too.

BolBill

Please don't mention The Strokes and The Libertines in the same sentence. I've liked The Strokes since the beginning, and No I dont read NME or Rolling Stone, theyre a decent band. The libertines on the other hand are complete ****e, they're just a band that are "cool" to like. Theres nothing cool about them, including their junkie guitarist. Then to add insult to injury they put him on the new album cover looking strung out - assholes !!!!!
As for The Thrills, they're a tad "samey", as in, all their songs sound the same. They've done well for a group of Upper Class "Rock" (as in Blackrock) boys who've never wanted for anything....
The problem with these music threads is that people will always disagree with each other because everybody likes somebody elses pet hate band.

2+2=5

so im a pedantic muppet because, i think its ridiculous that pet will be glad to see the end to the "THE" bands?? isnt being glad to see the end of the "The" bands quite narrow minded though (obviously you will all disagree cos i like the strokes)...

Spunky

Now Im usually one to know the name of an artist and whatever song they play.But everytime I hear myself (unfortuantly) listening to the Thrills or the Strokes I think who the hell are they? Every single time. I knew soemone who couldnt GIVE his thrills tickets away. Now I can remeber every single song from the Spice Girls (my childhood-the good old days) so why cant I remember one song forom the thrills/strokes? Because its totally s***e,. Thats why. Just plain dull, I wonder If the thrills named themselves because they thought it was Ironic, or do the ythink there exciting??! :rolleyes:


Boop.

Waltons

I wouldn't call it being narrow minded because in a whole LOT of the cases the band are nothing more than mediocre. The Hives, The Vines, The Strokes and The Thrills just to name a few, but it IS just a matter of opinion in the end.
Oh, and you're being called a pedantic muppet because you claimed that he was also talking about bands like The Who and The Doors when it was quite clear that he wasn't.

munkeehaven

sometimes we just need to have the blandness and predictability of the strokes to help us appreciate how brilliant other bands out there really are...

museslave

seems like 2+2=5 is making a better point here...
Pet never said in his original statement that bands like the doors and the who wernt included in his little rant so you cant really stick up for him..
and i think it is a bit backwards to say 2+2=5 is a pedantic muppet, because you (waltons, and pet) are saying how the bands are simply mediocre... do you think the bands only use "the" so that the can fit into a certain musical type of genre... its just a name, get over it...

Waltons

Yes, because The Strokes are so easily comparable to The Who. It would seem at the moment also that while the the The bands might not be using their name to fit into a category, they are all quite similiar.
And it's obvious that he's not just talking about the name more so than what their music actually sounds like :rolleyes:

Pet

Pet never said in his original statement that bands like the doors and the who wernt included in his little rant so you cant really stick up for him..

Oh god, anyone with a shred of common sense could tell that I meant the current slew of "The" bands, rather than the classics. Some things shouldn't need to be clearly stated - ever heard of the word "infer"? Look it up, and stop trying to nitpick.

Ivan

Spunky wrote:

Now Im usually one to know the name of an artist and whatever song they play.But everytime I hear myself (unfortuantly) listening to the Thrills or the Strokes I think who the hell are they? Every single time. I knew soemone who couldnt GIVE his thrills tickets away. Now I can remeber every single song from the Spice Girls (my childhood-the good old days) so why cant I remember one song forom the thrills/strokes? Because its totally s***e,. Thats why. Just plain dull, I wonder If the thrills named themselves because they thought it was Ironic, or do the ythink there exciting??! :rolleyes:


Boop.

Is that an endorsement of the Spice Girls?