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Moderation and You
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01-08-2001 9:13pm#1*Ahem*
This being my first post to this board, I wonder how it's going to be received (if at all).
Anyway, onto the issue in hand. One of the first things I noticed about this bulletin board is the readiness of moderation. Practically anything that moderators deem offensive, vulgar, pornographic etc. can be removed at their will. While I accept that there are sites that offer unmoderated content, and that those unhappy with this system are free to migrate to those sites, I sometimes wonder if the ability to censor and hence, in a way, control media that is brought before us should not remain within the mandate of one or two censors (per forum) that deem what is or is not 'suitable' for the rest of us to view.
I acknowledge that the moderators in question are responsible individuals who take that responsibiltiy seriously. I also accept that younger viewers who logon should *not* be exposed to the obscenity that 'graces' many internet sites. However, I sometimes find it frustrating when I come across a message that has been edited just because it's not PC (politically correct) or that it contains material that some may find offensive. I like to judge for myself whether something is objectionable or not, and to tell the truth, sometimes I like to be a little shocked by something once in a while - rather than viewing everything in a sanitary 'niceness'.
I do view other bulletin boards, some of which are unmoderated. This means that links to the most gruesome of sites can be posted (and one in particular *shudder*) and the occasional 'hate' thread appears (a topic with the sole purpose of inciting hatred towards a user). All in all, however, I like the fact that people can post whatever they wish - despite the fact that some people abuse that luxury.
Again, I'm not trying to lambast this site. One must also consider the thorny legal issues around such a site that offers it's content to all. What I'm trying to say (perhaps unsuccessfully) is that trying to make everyone conform to a set of guidelines, however well-meaning they may be, might not be to everyone's interest - and I'm not just referring to those that would post content that would ordinarily be edited.
Oh, and it also annoys me somewhat when those ****ing stars show up
And if this has already come up for discussion, my apologies... I'll have to do some better background reading0
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Try posting on the Admin forum if you have a gripe about the boards.
Better yet go search for posts from Devore (probably this forum and Admin) about censorship and whatnot.
Kind of funny that you would post on the board belonging to a moderator who is only second to Castor Troy in stalinising muppets.
Btw, I can only assume as this is your first post that someone banned your previous account, or your scared to post under your real nick?
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A) If you don't like the moderation you are 100% free to longer read boards.ie
Boards.ie is privately owned and run by DeVore, Regi et al., and if they want to have a set of guidelines so that people don't have to read the kind of utter drivel that is prevalent on the Internet in general, they can.<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">I sometimes wonder if the ability to censor and hence, in a way, control media that is brought before us should not remain within the mandate of one or two censors (per forum) that deem what is or is not 'suitable' for the rest of us to view.
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I assume you mean should remain there - as otherwise you're arguing against your own point.<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">One must also consider the thorny legal issues around such a site that offers it's content to all.</font>
Such as?
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If links are edited its because they are not suitable for certain age groups. They cant be left for you to judge for yourself because what if someone from that certain age group sees it. Simple...
Hobbes, Im only second to castor because most muppets know to avoid this board by now
Insanity is spreading like wildfire.......and Im at its center
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I think that the moderators on boards.ie are great, This site can be viewed (and even understood (but only sometimes) ) by at least people aged 11+ in my opinion.
Sometimes fukers post bad things but bad things happen so what can ye do, its usually dealt with fast. So basically the moderators are grand, a bit superior, but ok none the less.
The admins on the other hand, Devore i mean jesus he nearly took over the Counterstrike board and i heard he had plans to annex poland after that 
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First off Swiss thats a good post no flaming and you get your point across. But take this into account. I was at a LAN at the weekend and everyone at it was from this site now I myself am a ripe old age of 22 but many of the users of boards.ie are young and this point was really hammered home when at the LAN I had to drive a few of they home so nothing would happen them and reflect badly on the LAN ie kid gets beat up the parents blame us for not taking care of him. It is a long the same reason why boards have mods if a 12 year old kid is looking a great big pr0n pic or site he got off boards.ie you know whos going to get the blame Devore,Regi,Cloud and the lads which could mean the end for this long established community. Ant that one mean I would be very bored in work and we dont want that to happen
kayos
When you get to hell tell them I sent you,
you'll get a group discount...
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Swiss, an excellent first post (if you're not just an old poster masquerading under a new nick).
I must say though, from my point of view, that Boards is a community with well established community standards and that those standards are what makes me feel very much at home here.
I'm probably tending towards the upper end of the age scale and the admins (well Cloud anyhow, he was two years behind me in college) are probably there or there abouts as well. I think that the tone is somewhat dictated by that age profile. Still, there's plenty of room for fun and freedom of expression. I've never seen anyones post shot down as long as they thought it out and avoided flaming anyone.
Boards are society in miniature. Just like in real life, we accept certain limits to because the abuse of those rights, if granted, by malicious individuals, would ultimately limit our freedom to a far greater sense. I'm no believer in anarchy as a viable system.
That's how I see it anyway.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by WhiteWashMan:
besdies, if we had less mods, then there wouldnt be half as many posts from people moaning about karma, unfair treatment, dictatorship on the humanities board, etc etc etc etc.</font>
Indeed and who'd be there to make sure the madness that is the Work Board doesn't de-generate into a spiral of madness!
Mods are needed, all of us do a good job - it's thankless and we sometimes get abused.
In relation to the Humour board, I think "would it be OK to have that picture on my screen if the boss walked up behind me" or "would I want a kid to see/read this" and nine times out of ten, the stuff's grand - a bit crass sometimes, but to me, if it's OK for a 15's cert (the youngest age group we have knocking about - there are some younger), then it stays.
A constructive and well formed post - fair play.
All the best!
Dav
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So Bob Hoskins was about to roll a spliff when in walks Dana with her 3 foot Bong
[honey i] violated [the kids]
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Okay, a mixed response
Firstly, I didn't mean to annoy any of the moderators who felt that I was inferring that they don't do a good job. Erk! Perish the thought. Nor am I seeking to effect a change in the way this site is run, given that most people seem happy with it. I just wanted to gauge the views of people towards the issue of moderation, using this particular website as an example.
Next, yes I am new to this board (though I have posted on others). I'm a bit surprised at the suggestion that I'm an older poster too scared to use his 'real' login, although I didn't *really* know how people were going to react. I've read a few of the topics posted in the forums, and decided that the boards crewe are a decent enough sort (and I have turned to TheWolf for my jokes 'fix' - keep up the good work!).
I would agree with nesf... they are a necessary evil, as there are those whose sole mandate on a board would be to basically annoy others (such as what I may be doing now )
The 'Thorny legal issue' I had in mind is the Incitement to Hatred Act which was recently introduced. If there were posters who were being maliciously abused then if boards.ie (who are supposed to provide moderated content) were found negligent in removing/censoring this material, they could find themselves responsible, for hosting the material - despite the diclaimer stating that they are not.
And to the moderators, thanks for not clicking the command 'Put that muppet's post in Trolls' when you first read this
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by swiss:
And to the moderators, thanks for not clicking the command 'Put that muppet's post in Trolls' when you first read this</font>
A few of us(mods) stopped doing that because it caused more problems than it solved...Deletion works so much better anyway
Insanity is spreading like wildfire.......and Im at its center
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thank you
I would consider myself to be fair on that hotbed of controversy the webgames board, but you do get idiots who try to spoil others enjoyment/use of the boards and that is why we are here. Un-pc and controversial are welcome as far as I'm concerned, as they promote discussion. We are painfully aware of the dangers of censorship so we are careful. Pretty much the mods make sure everybody behaves themselves and we do a good job (I think). That's why it's the second biggest Irish bbs, next to them p45 ****ers
It's a great first post though, welcome to boards.
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