Driving with no license

Diabolus

Ok before the flame war starts on telling me im a muppet,
i already know that bit. But heres the story.

I was driving for the last 2 days with no licence.
I got pulled over today as there were 3 other bald guys in the car with me.
They searched us but then asked for my licence.
I havent got one but told them i didnt bring it with me.
They impounded the car. What you reckon is gonna happen?

Also no licence means no insurance.
Am i ****ed or what!

koneko

Yeah I'd say so, and to be honest, and I know you don't want to hear this, it's your own fault.

What were you doing driving around with no licence and no insurance? Was it life or death? I'd hope so.

giveth

Hopefully, you will go to jail for a considerable period.

Ive been working my ass off to pay €1300 a year for insurance and another €400 for tax, and u think its fine to go out with nothing.

seamus

Diabolus wrote:

Ok before the flame war starts on telling me im a muppet,
i already know that bit. But heres the story.

I was driving for the last 2 days with no licence.
I got pulled over today as there were 3 other bald guys in the car with me.
They searched us but then asked for my licence.
I havent got one but told them i didnt bring it with me.
They impounded the car. What you reckon is gonna happen?

Also no licence means no insurance.
Am i ****ed or what!

Pretty much. Driving without a licence is two points if you pay the fine. Up to 5 points if there is a court appearance.

I'm not sure, but afaik, the Gardai tend not to double-sting people for no licence and no insurance (even though, as you say, no licence = no insurance). Driving with no insurance will land you a big fine, and up to 5 points.

So, very worst case scenario, you end up with two big fines and 10 points on your licence. You won't be disqualified, but your insurance may go up, and you'll have to drive like a saint for 3 years.

Best case scenario, you pay a fixed fine, get two points and learn a valuable lesson.

Did you actually have zero insurance, or just no licence?

impr0v

Diabolus wrote:

I got pulled over today as there were 3 other bald guys in the car with me.

What's the relevance of this fact, or am I missing something?

Diabolus

I have neither.
No licence so no insurance.
Will i not get banned from driving for 5 years for driving without a licence.

P.S. the relevance for the bald guys was we looked suspicious

HashSlinging

is the car insured in anyones name. do you not even have an old provisional licence you can hand up. apply for the test and bring the letter to the station.

Same sort of thing happend to me, but my licence was out of date by a couple of months when I was pulled over. I was lucky enough to get away with a warning.

Diabolus

The car belongs to my dad.
It was company insured but not anymore.
I have no provisional either.

Seth Brundle

hopefully a stay in the prison system will make you see some sense!
fingers crossed that the car will be crushed!

aidan_walsh

Why do people think that they're above the law, or that it doesn't apply to them?

Enjoy your stay in the Grey Bar Hotel, and may you be banned from driving for a long, long time... Hell, not that driving illegally has stopped you before or anything...

seamus

Diabolus wrote:

I have neither.
No licence so no insurance.

Heh, still doesn't answer my question.
What I meant was, have you paid for insurance and just have no licence, or have you neither? If I had my way, you'd be banned permanently for the latter, and the Gardai will rape you for it, but if it's the former, you'll get off easy.

Will i not get banned from driving for 5 years for driving without a licence.

Not here anyway. You may do for driving without insurance though. Have you ever been licenced? If not, you may do jail time too.

Have fun.

threebeards

Diabolus wrote:

The car belongs to my dad.

Did your father have knowledge of you taking the car and if he did, does he assume you have a license?

FX Meister

Sounds like a case of an idiot taking the dads car when he was on holidays. Maybe he's young and made a dumb mistake? And now he has to pay the bid price of getting caught. I've no sympathy being someone who pays my insurance and being at the wrong end of an accident with an uninsured person in the past and having had to pay for it.

HashSlinging

I hope you punched his lights out then again he probably would end up getting some compo from you.... arrggghh

Stark

Driving without insurance is a very serious offence in this country and if you find a judge who takes a disliking to you, you could end up with a prison sentence. I'd let that hair grow a bit for the trail if I was you The licence bit is minor compared to the insurance issue but the fact that you had neither isn't going to help your chances. Most likely scenario you'll get a fine of €2,500 and year's ban for driving.

445279.ie

First offence of no insurance is not an automatic disqualification, but it is a mandetory endorsement.

Best case scenario is €200 fine approx and endorsement. Worst case is 12 months disq and €500 fine

FX Meister

HashSlinging wrote:

I hope you punched his lights out then again he probably would end up getting some compo from you.... arrggghh

I got the compo from the MIB but it was a major pain in the ass and my car isn't right since, just little creaks and a door slightly mis aligned so it has worn the paint off in places from closing. The guy was a Roma gypo and pretty big plus loads of his fellow romanys were on the scene fairly quickly. A few weeks later he was back on the road doing the same thing and the cops didn't care.

aidan_walsh

The best thing you can do to help your defense is don't wash your hair for a fortnight prior, turn up to the trial wearing an old tracksuit, and keep a litre bottle of Lidl cider beside you at all times...

445279.ie

doodle_sketch wrote:

The best thing you can do to help your defense is don't wash your hair for a fortnight prior, turn up to the trial wearing an old tracksuit, and keep a litre bottle of Lidl cider beside you at all times...

And don't forget the thick gold chains!!!

dahamsta

Diabolus wrote:

P.S. the relevance for the bald guys was we looked suspicious

LOL

Stark

Ah prejudgice, where would crime prevention be without it

JohnCleary

Hate to say this but MUPPET MUPPET MUPPET.

Question, what would you have done had you of crashed into someone and it was your fault? *THEY* would have had to fork out for repairs to their own car because you had no insurance. Man, get a clue.
Even worse, you drove around SUSPICIOUSLY :eek:

Diabolus

As i said at the start i know im a muppet.
But i dont plan to live in this country for more than 6 months more.
Its crazy to pay the insurance fees for this country.
That and the license test here is rediculous.

Ive driven in australia for less than a tenth of what you pay here.
I aint above the law , im a 19yr old muppet.
Too young to CARE.

Capt'n Midnight

Diabolus wrote:

As i said at the start i know im a muppet.
But i dont plan to live in this country for more than 6 months more.
Its crazy to pay the insurance fees for this country.
That and the license test here is rediculous.

Ive driven in australia for less than a tenth of what you pay here.
I aint above the law , im a 19yr old muppet.
Too young to CARE.

Words fail...
Yeah it is criminally expensive to drive here. Only very recently in this country could most adults expect to have a car, most people in the third world will never drive a car. It's not a right. You are not entitled to put other people at risk

But not having insurance PROVES you don't have any concept of a duty of care to others. Not having a driving license reinforces this. If I was the judge I'd simply point out that since the defendant had none of the necessities to DRIVE the car it shoud be considered that they were in possesion of a dangerous weapon in a public place, reckless endangerment.

Smellyirishman

Diabolus wrote:

But i dont plan to live in this country for more than 6 months more...

...Too young to CARE.

And this gives you what right exactly? You think just because your going to be gone in 6- months that you can just go breaking the law! What about *if* you had crashed? you would run off and just leave the person over here with a huge bill and nothing to do?

Personally I hope you pay... a LOT. There may be ridiculous insurance but do you want to have a guess why?.....

Incase your incredible stupid (which it sounds like you might be) it because of people like you.

zapata

Ive driven in australia for less than a tenth of what you pay here.

Did you have a licence to drive in Australia?

My advice for you is to EMIGRATE SOON and do us all a favour.

Stark

I should note that you are allowed get insured for only 6 months of the year, so you had no excuse.

We should show this thread to the judge and then we'll see about that trip to Australia

"Off to prison.
Too young to care baby!! "

mike65

My advice for you is to EMIGRATE SOON and do us all a favour.

And this gives you what right exactly? You think just because your going to be gone in 6- months that you can just go breaking the law! What about *if* you had crashed? you would run off and just leave the person over here with a huge bill and nothing to do? Personally I hope you pay... a LOT. There may be ridiculous insurance but do you want to have a guess why?..... Incase your incredible stupid (which it sounds like you might be) it because of people like you.

But not having insurance PROVES you don't have any concept of a duty of care to others.

MUPPET MUPPET MUPPET

I like the smell of roasting law-breaker on a Saturday Afternoon.

Mike.

The Muppet

Diabolus wrote:

Ive driven in australia for less than a tenth of what you pay here.
I aint above the law , im a 19yr old muppet.
Too young to CARE.

Insurance is not an optional extra . "19 and too young to care" does that not sound very immature to you? At 19 you should grow up and take responsibility for the consequences of your actions.

JohnCleary

Insurance premiums are not a legit excuse. I'm 18. I bought my car back in May. I couldnt afford insurance at the time so I LEFT THE CAR IN THE DRIVE_WAY until I could afford it! Driving is a privilige, not a right. If you want to take advantage of that privilige you must pay the necessary..

therecklessone

Diabolus wrote:

Its crazy to pay the insurance fees for this country.

Partly caused by unlicensed and uninsured little brats like yourself.

I felt a little sympathy for you when you posted first, now I suggest you invest in some vaseline to "ease" the transition to prison life.

the_syco

Diabolus wrote:

But i dont plan to live in this country for more than 6 months more.

I'd like to see how you'll leave this country with a criminal conviction! Or how you'll get a job in another country.

Diabolus wrote:

im a 19yr old muppet.

We alredy know that. To the prisoners, you'll be "fresh meat" in more than one way!

aidan_walsh

Diabolus wrote:

I'm an assh0le

Edited for effect, message remains the same.

You complain about the insurance costs, but have done all you can to help increase them.
You complain about the driving test, but have done all you can to prove why its necessary.
You say you're not above the law, but you don't care to follow it.
And everytime you call yourself a muppet, I can't help but read a little pride in there...

Do us all a favour. Forget the six months thing. Go now...

Tommy Vercetti

doodle_sketch wrote:

Go now...

...and don't come back

skibum

I hope your father gave you the kick in the ass, and one hell of a punch in the back of your thick head that you deserve. Cop on to yourself, you are still young, learn from this, there are enough g0b*****s on the road with out you adding to the numbers.

Going Demented

My brother got caught with no insurance. Was in court in June. Got two years off the road and 1250 fine.

Stark

The fine is so pathetic, it's less than the cost of the insurance in most cases

Going Demented

Yep. Least its a kick in the ass when they can't go on the road again. My father is a stickler for having insurance etc etc and my brother pretended he had insurance. Day he got caught he cried like a baby. He is in his late 20's should have known better. He was petrified as the soliciter told him he might get jail. (had a previous driving offense ~rolleyes~) Consequences, he won't be driving for a long time even when the endorsement comes off as his insurance will be something like 7000 (thats how much he got quoted for a 1ltr before the latest offense). He was also a teleporter (or whatever it is) driver, so lost his job.

Serves him right. I bust my ass to pay insurance and everything and the likes of these people that just don't bother with it. Makes me sick.

seamus

No offence Going Demented, but your brother sounds like a complete asshole. We're better off without him on the roads.

secret_squirrel

should be instant 5yr ban for no license and no insurance...and time in the big house if they do it again.

I hope your stay here is forceably extended courtesy of a raving mad judge. Hope some shaven headed 19yr old knacker takes his 15yr old daughters virginity the day before your trial.

Going Demented

seamus wrote:

No offence Going Demented, but your brother sounds like a complete asshole. We're better off without him on the roads.

No offense taken.

Guess he had the same stupid mentality of the original poster. Trying to save a few quid and not thinking of other people they are endangering. :rolleyes:

Ave

I hope you go to prison and lose your virginity there.

3cups

Sorry guys but this is a troll plain and simple, just another kid looking for a bit of sensationalism on a boring weekend. The tone of the post and some of the expressions used are the telltale signs.

The bald guy reference is a total giveaway, but funny at the same time. :rolleyes:

Stark

I kind of figured it was a troll, especially by the way he replied back shit stirring with the likes of "don't care". That's not to say that this kind of thing still doesn't happen all the time and the people involved really don't care.

Like on this other thread, the post by "Vibrant" - http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=1943165#post1943165 , deliberately prompted him with "and the person accompanying you?" and of course got the expected response. Didn't bother trying to argue with him, would have just ended up spamming the thread. I mean I have to pay rediculous insurance just to be babysat in the car until I get my test, but of course that doesn't mean anyone else should obey the law :rolleyes:

Tommy Vercetti

3cups wrote:

Sorry guys but this is a troll plain and simple, just another kid looking for a bit of sensationalism on a boring weekend. The tone of the post and some of the expressions used are the telltale signs.

The bald guy reference is a total giveaway, but funny at the same time. :rolleyes:

3t1t$!!!

unkel

a troll for sure

Tommy Vercetti wrote:

3t1t$!!!

:eek: :eek: :eek: heard that somewhere else...

the_syco, fix your sig, 386 doesn't go with SDRAM :rolleyes:

FX Meister

the_syco wrote:

I'd like to see how you'll leave this country with a criminal conviction! Or how you'll get a job in another country.


We alredy know that. To the prisoners, you'll be "fresh meat" in more than one way!

It's no problem leaving this country with a record, and it's even easier to get a job in another country with a record than it is here.

X-Dawg

Diabolus wrote:

Ok before the flame war starts on telling me im a muppet,
i already know that bit. But heres the story.

I was driving for the last 2 days with no licence.
I got pulled over today as there were 3 other bald guys in the car with me.
They searched us but then asked for my licence.
I havent got one but told them i didnt bring it with me.
They impounded the car. What you reckon is gonna happen?

Also no licence means no insurance.
Am i ****ed or what!

And to make things worse, they probably think you're gay because of the "Right Said Fred" guys that were in the car with you.

Hagar

seamus wrote:

Driving without a licence is two points if you pay the fine. Up to 5 points if there is a court appearance.

I don't quite understand this bit. I'm not taking a cheap shot at you Seamus.

How do you put two penalty points on the licence of somebody whose offence is not to have a licence in the first place? Are the points kept on file until sometime in the future when the person actually gets a licence and then apply the penalty?

seamus

Hagar wrote:

I don't quite understand this bit. I'm not taking a cheap shot at you Seamus.

How do you put two penalty points on the licence of sombody whose offence is not to have a licence in the first place? Are the points kept on file until sometime in the future when the person actually gets a licence and the apply the penalty?

Dunno, I assume so. It seems a tad counterproductive though. Why would someone who's driving without a licence in the first place give a damn about penalty points?

Points are linked to your PPSN. So whatever you do while driving, and how many licences you hold (I hold two different ones for example), all of your offences are stored as one.

woosaysdan

i suspose they'd go on it when they apply for their license in the future