Compulsory Insurance for cyclists!!

Jockey Spollix · 25-07-2001 2:37pm #1

If you drive in Dublin city you must have had at least one scrape with a vehicle that was caused by an idiotic cyclist. I have had several.
Example 1: Swerving to avoid a mad cyclist you clip someone's mirror and damage it. Result: Your insurance has to cough up.
If a cyclist was registered and had insurance both drivers and witnesses could make sure they were made liable for the accident through careless driving(or cycling, whatever!!) and don't get me started on compulsory mirrors!!
Watcha think?

Life is just a one way ticket, every one must go around, here's a bucket go and kick it, slit your wrists without a sound.

TwoShedsJackson · 25-07-2001 3:38pm

Gladiator · 25-07-2001 3:46pm

thats plain stupid

WhiteWashMan · 25-07-2001 3:53pm

Originally posted by Jockey Spollix:
If you drive in Dublin city you must have had at least one scrape with a vehicle that was caused by an idiotic cyclist. I have had several.
Example 1: Swerving to avoid a mad cyclist you clip someone's mirror and damage it. Result: Your insurance has to cough up.
If a cyclist was registered and had insurance both drivers and witnesses could make sure they were made liable for the accident through careless driving(or cycling, whatever!!) and don't get me started on compulsory mirrors!!
Watcha think?

i think..
1)you should be driving more carefully
2)you are not obliged to overtake cyclists, see point 1
3)why would you over take a cyclists where you risk damaging your car, see point 1
4)why in the name of god would you claim over a wing mirror?

Originally posted by Jockey Spollix:

If a cyclist was registered and had insurance both drivers and witnesses could make sure they were made liable for the accident through careless driving(or cycling, whatever!!)

why would you make a cyclist cough up for own 'admitted' careless driving?

Enygma · 25-07-2001 4:10pm

hehe, each of this guys topics has got the "Angry" icon associated to it. Gwan ya angry yung man ya!

gob****e

Jockey Spollix · 25-07-2001 4:28pm

Originally posted by WhiteWashMan:
why would you make a cyclist cough up for own 'admitted' careless driving?

I am in a land of idiots???
What the hell are you talking about?
If a cyclist is swerving in and out of traffic, jumping off paths and not stopping at red lights, that is bloody careless cycling (his, not mine!!!) , of course we want him to cough up if he causes 2 vehicles to crash into each other. I never mentioned overtaking, and who says I was driving a car.
My insurance got stung for a very expensive BMW motorized mirror (almost £1000) hence my insurance increases and loss of no claims bonus. So you are telling me if a cyclist causes you to crash, buggers off into the distance knowing that he caused an accident, and does not have to answer to anybody, is OK???? I am guessing now that you don't own a motorcycle or car, and as for "Gladiator" well!!! I think you guys know already!!

Life is just a one way ticket, every one must go around, here's a bucket go and kick it, slit your wrists without a sound.

WhiteWashMan · 25-07-2001 4:40pm

ok, two things.
i have never seen a cyclist cause someone to crash unless the muppet cycles directly across you. in which case you obviously run him down.
darwanism.
point two, in your own words in your first post, and i quote

"through careless driving"

you are admitting to careless driving.
to quote you again, am i in the land of the idiots?
oh, and yes, i own a car, i drive from one side of the city to the other side twice a day, but the difference between you and me is that you are obviously not a very good driver and would like to blame it on someone else.
cyclists have the right to use the street like anyone else. they should be treated equally, and if you crash trying to pass one, then you are a muppet, a danger to yourself, and a danger to others on the road and you shouldnt be in control of a car. and anyone who lets you drive a BMW, well, just remind me to get my insurance there in future as they must take on just about anyone.
why dont you read what people have written, read what you have written, and then think about it before posting up rubbish.
or do us a favour, and post right the first time eh?

Jockey Spollix · 25-07-2001 5:23pm

Oh my god!!!
READ IT AGAIN YOU ARE ALL CRAZY.
1: I reffered to the cyclists driving carelessly not me!!!1
2: I did not say I was passing anybody.
3: I said a I collided with a BMW
Now lets see if you idiots can get it this time.
I am complaining about cyclists driving carelesly, NOT ME.
I have told you twice, I am not trying to overtake them!!! I am driving in a lane with a car beside me in another and some fool on a pushbike cycles directly off a path in front of my motorcycle without even glancing over his shoulder. I either kill him and most likely get blamed or swerve...are you with me so far?? When you are forced to swerve in confined traffic you collide with other vehicles, are you still with me?
So driving at the limit in a straight line makes me a careless driver? Are you insane?
Cyclists dont use the road with due care and that is the bottom line.
Now if anybody did not understand it this time, please get some help for your dyslexia.

Spunog UIE · 25-07-2001 5:58pm

Why ya tormentin Poor WIllyyyyy?

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WhiteWashMan · 25-07-2001 6:41pm

ok, so in your first post you admit to driving carelessly.
its there.
go back and read it.
and now you are the worlds best driver?

which is it?

you do know that as a driver, you are required to look around (thats what mirrors are for) and you are suppose to be aware that there are cyclists about who do such things.
also, if you are driving at a speed where you cant stop in time, you are going too fast, regardless of the speed limit.

now, im neither an idiot, insane, or dyslexic. as far as im concerned i appear to be a level or two above you, especially the dyslexia part...
and i still stick by my first points. if you cant drive on a road where there are cars AND bikes, then you shouldnt be behind a wheel. now stop arguing about your bad driving before i give a negative karma point for being a big moany pants.
gentlemen....good day to you all.

Hobbes · 25-07-2001 7:10pm

Originally posted by Jockey Spollix:
I am complaining about cyclists driving carelesly, NOT ME.

So let me see if I got this correct, your complaining about a guy on a bike driving carelessy, your not complaining about you driving carelessy?

Have you tried driving lessons?

There is a lesson to be learnt here.
1. You had a choice to hit a guy on a bicycle or hit a BMW.
2. You thought to hit the more expensive when the correct course of action would be to hit the bike (as it's cheaper to repair and keep a cyclist off the road, you'd still have to pay insurance).
3. Or you could of decellerated. Were you speeding?

Lump · 25-07-2001 8:08pm

If someone told me I had to pay to insure my bike, I'd tell you where I'd shove my Bike. I think yuo're just trying to make yourself feel better for hitting your mans mirror. If the other person was driving a BMW and

both drivers and witnesses could make sure they were made liable for the accident 

then surely he wuld have seen it wasnt your fault then you wouldnt have had to pay him, that is if he was reasonable.

Right, gone.

John

Monty - the one and only · 25-07-2001 8:33pm

Hmm, Im a cyclist, Im quite careful and I have been in 2 accidents caused by idiotic drivers...the worst being that, I ended up being thrown from my bike through the front passangers window head first(which was quite painful) because the muppet cut me off...

Yes there are bad cyclists out there, but a bad driver's gonna do a hell of a lot more damage

Call anyone an idiot on this board again and Ill remove your post

Insanity is spreading like wildfire.......and Im at its center

www.scifi-meshes.com

[This message has been edited by Monty - the one and only (edited 25-07-2001).]

Gordon · 25-07-2001 8:40pm

The amount of times I've seen bad and dangerous cyclists in Dublin are equal if not overshadowed by, due to the majority, the amount of times I've seen bad signalling at turns and roundabouts by cars. Cyclists are bad here but drivers are behind a bigger bullet.

Fidelis · 25-07-2001 9:47pm

I have been cycling, more or less everyday, for over six years now and have never had the misfortune of being in an accident. I have had my life flash before my eyes a few times though, courtesy of careless motorists.

Victor · 25-07-2001 10:54pm

My means of transport: Bus
My Location: EverReady bus-stop in Donnybrook.
Time of day: 2:20pm
Traffic: no traffic inbound, traffic is backed up outbound at the Donnybrook Bridge & Eglinton Road traffic lights.
Scenario: Car leaves rugby ground car park and goes up Eglinton Road.

Offences:

Obstructing yellow box junction
Sounding horn while car is stationary
Loading passenger in middle of road
Crossing solid white line
Driving on wrong side of road
Crossing stop line when traffic light is red
Obstructing 'straight-on' traffic lane
Making illegal u-turn
Driving without due care and attention
Reckless endangerment
Being fooking STUPID

My sympathy level for car drivers: put them down humanely.

Kill, kill, kill the laser mice.

Yurmasyurda · 26-07-2001 9:11am

I am currently a cyclist and I cycle carefully and most of the problems are by drivers that think they own the road... so fek bleedin off

BTW. Stop bein a big eejit

[This message has been edited by Yurmasyurda (edited 26-07-2001).]

Jockey Spollix · 26-07-2001 9:39am

Ok. This is my last ever posting, I have no faith in this site.

I quoted "If a cyclist was registered and had insurance "both drivers" (meaning the 2 that were caused to collide) and witnesses could make sure they (the cyclist) were made liable for the accident through careless driving(or cycling, whatever!!)"
The cyclist driving carelessly or cycling carelessly!!! whatever you want to call it.

Now can you imagine how frustrating it was for me to have to keep explaining what I meant in my post, and to have people continue to misread my argument?
I am a professional driver, it is what I do for a living, because of the lack of protection on a motorcycle, I drive with a great awareness of what is around me and have done so for 16 years (Full clean A/A1/B licences). My point is simple.
Motorcycle and car drivers have to sit a test to prove they understand the rules of the road. They also have to provide an opticians report. A cyclist can jump straight on a bike with possibly no knowledge of the highway code and drive on the same city streets as us. The question was guys, IS THAT RIGHT?

I bid you farewell, best of luck with your site for the future..

Life is just a one way ticket, every one must go around, here's a bucket go and kick it, slit your wrists without a sound.

Gladiator · 26-07-2001 9:53am

cyclist cause accidents to, ive never seen a cyclist stop a pedestrian crossing, and I mean never, as if the red light means nothing to them, if fact few don't stop at main traffic lights either,

example, on the bus about 5 weeks ago light was red for the cyclist, he see the bus and thinks he can get across in front of the bus, he does, but of course he didn't see the jeep on the inside of the bus, bang, he so flying, bike is a write off,

totally cyclist fault, thought the red light didn't apply to him and nearly broke his neck,

GreenHell · 26-07-2001 1:05pm

Arrr driving behind cyclists annoys the crap out me. Don't get me wrong I spent a good while cycling before I got my full license. But some cyclists do the stupidest thinks, like free wheeling down hills and overtaking cars that are breaking, turning off with out signaling
/me shakes his fist

altho I see as many stupid ******* gob****e drivers as cyclists these days.

entropi · 26-07-2001 11:08pm

Most of you are talking out of your arses, i am a cyclist and if a car {more than likely it is about 99% of the time)cuts me off, i would shout at them vulgar lingo as loud as i could. And if they got out, which they never did, i would probably punch them as they have no poxy appreciation for us.

we are the ones who clear the congestion on the streets so there are no more cars than there are now, we go about fooking freezing in the winter while you have heaters in there while shielded in the rain, and you have the AA to fix you up if you break down...we don't, and the cyclist always gets blamed for the accident.I have had so many scrapes with death on the streets i can't remember??.OH, i live in Dublin 8 if it's any help, right on the quays. Now try to tell me that that is not fooking dangerous at rush hour.
And no-body would claim off a mirror, it's totally foolish. Thats how premiums go up, not the cyclists or young drivers, but fools like this who make silly claims.

i'm really ****ed off about this matter

That island has freedom written all over it" Sir, that's Cuba. [url="HTTP://WWW.thesimpsons.com"]look at that smithers!![/url]

entropi · 26-07-2001 11:11pm

Castor, nice pic of IT there..

That island has freedom written all over it" Sir, that's Cuba. [url="HTTP://WWW.thesimpsons.com"]look at that smithers!![/url]

Compulsory Insurance for cyclists!!

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