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weemcd

i think both these games are way to overhyped and i dont think they will get 100% mabye there isnt a perfect game like

KdjaCL

Doubt it , I only played one 100 game ever (Zelda OOT imo) and cant see any FPS getting it maybe original Half Life or Goldeneye would get 98 99 but newer ones are just rehasing old ideas.

But ims sure in some peoples minds its already got a 100. tbh at this stage im expecting Driv3r type games.

kdjac

Töpher

Well, honestly I can't see either gaining 100%, they will both be amazing games I think, but will be heavily let down by their inability to run well on all but the newest machines. Even some top spec machines probably won't be able to run them with everything turned on, hardly worthy of 100% if it's not available to play as intended.

Kiith

no game can ever get 100% simply because nothing can ever be perfect. than again, very few sites\magazines give decent ratings, except maybe pcZone or pcGamer(granted i don't read many). i remember some of the old nintendo mags. every game had a rating of 7/10 or higher.

KdjaCL

Some games i know Edge gave a hundred too

Halo
Goldeneye
Zelda
Mario 64
there were 7 100s i think from Edge

kdjac

Kiith

well i suppose zelda and goldeneye would come close, but definatly not halo. and, of course, half life.

RobertFoster

I wont be getting either tbh

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Originally posted by User45701

so many AMAZING games HL1 gets 99 because u couldnt skip the intro when u wanted to play it for the 20th time. I know u could DL a thing that skips it but still.

using my boards.ie search skills you are wrong:
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=136424&perpage=20&highlight=half%20life%20intro&pagenumber=3

jesus i have nothing better to do that that lmao

Stephen

Who cares what PC Zone and PC Gamer say anyway, they both suck.

Batbat

the way HL2 is shaping up it looks like it could or should get 100% or close to it, I always thought HL1 was at the time about as good a FPS as you can get, even now it beats games such as far cry in the story experience department.

As a policy i dont think either pc mag ever gives 100% for games

po0k

No game has ever been or ever will be worthy of 100%


And Halo is a decidedly 77-83% game

leeroybrown

PC gaming magazines only give 100% ratings very very occasionally to prove it's actually possible to get one. Most magazines/review sites have fairly well defined marking schemes and will probably knock marks off Doom3 and HL2 for lack of replayability or low performance on older hardware.

I'd see a higher chance of games that licence one of the engines (probably Doom3's one based on ID's sucess in the licencing field) being graphically brilliant and incorporating all the features required for 100%. The Quake3 engine looked better every time a new game was developed using it. I would foresee a similar situation with Doom3.

Batbat

PC gaming magazines only give 100% ratings very very occasionally

have any examples? just wondering

leeroybrown

Not off the top of my head and I'm wasting enough of my (employers) time posting without trying to dig some up.

tman

Originally posted by SyxPak
No game has ever been or ever will be worthy of 100%


And Halo is a decidedly 77-83% game

definitely

in fact, i'd go lower for the pc version of Halo. a fairly goddamned tedious game in all fairness, i couldn't even be bothered to finish it.

metroid prime is the closest any game has come to being deserving of 100% in my eyes.
and i'd only give that 95% if i were reviewing it

bizmark

Originally posted by Stephen
Who cares what PC Zone and PC Gamer say anyway, they both suck.

Pc zone can be a enjoyable read at 8 euro 30 cent an expensive enjoyable read mind.I only believe eurogamer for reviews now adays those guys seem to know their zelda from their driv3r (l33t name :rolleyes:)

Im holding out hope that doom3 will get a 90% couldnt really careless about duke nukem forever .....i mean half life 2

Batbat

I think Planescape tourment deserver 100%

po0k

Listen.

Fools.

No game should ever get 100%

It is impossible.
No game has, is or will be "perfect".
That is what 100% means.

You can have some pants-wettingly good games. Marioworld, Sonic, Quake, HL are well deserving of a place in the history books.
They were excellent games in their time. But would you honestly put them toe to toe with the best of breed of today and expect them to beat them?
If a game was truely worth 100% no-one, anywhere would ever play anything else ever again.

KdjaCL

Zelda OOT 100% without doubt the mythical perfect game.


kdjac

Lemming

What Syx just said ^^^

Testify brother!!!

tman

Originally posted by KdjaC
Zelda OOT 100% without doubt the mythical perfect game.


kdjac

... must get round to playing that

BadCharlie

A game should only ever get 99% max. Every game after been released can be improved. If you give a game 100% it means it can never be improved. Gaming Mags that have giving games 100% in the past is just plain stupid.

Creamy Goodness

there's no way in hell a game should get 100%

i reckon HL2 and Doom3 will get high scores but i reckon HL2 will beat Doom3 because of system spec's

Giblet

A game should never be rated in %'s

If you are too lazy to read multiple reviews, you deserve to buy crap games because you looked at a 99% sticker or something.

Lemming

Originally posted by Cr3m0
i reckon HL2 and Doom3 will get high scores but i reckon HL2 will beat Doom3 because of system spec's

And on that note, does anyone have fairly accurate system specs for these two beasts? Preferably from the horses mouth or from "people in the know"

Giblet

Ok from the test's of both games.

2500xp, 512mb DDR400, 9600 pro clocked to XT speeds.

Mid detail Halflife 800x600, 60 fps at start with no people, 30 with loads of people around and 20fps with loads of people around and firing a machine gun.

Mid detail Doom 800x600. 40 fps in empty area. 35 with 4 zombies, 25 with 4 zombies + machine gun.


These are the leaked versions, so they can't be taken 100% but unless they "DE-Optimise" the engine I can't see it getting much worse as there was alot of detail in the terrain and enemys.

Creamy Goodness

the latest on the half life 2 specs are contained in this interview

[Interviewer] As the release date nears what are the current minimum CPU/Memory and graphics card requirements in order to run Half-Life 2? Has this changed considerably between your original planned min specs or has it remained relatively close?

[Doug Lombardi] The min spec is:
1.2 GHz Processor
256MB RAM
DirectX 7 level graphics card
Windows 2000/XP/ME/98
Mouse
Keyboard

KdjaCL

The leaked demo wasnt optimised or so Carmack said and will be but that was 2 years ago, god only knows what its like now.



Has anyone who says 100 isnt possible actually played and completed Zelda OOT?

kdjac

full forward

check out game rankings top 100 here
http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/simpleratings.asp


Zelda OOT got tons of 100% reviews...
http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages4/197771.asp

Dont be at yourself

Will they score 100%? That entirely depends on how much money and freebies the publishers heap on the magazines, really.

Percentages are rubbish, anyway.


And for what it's worth, (probably very little, given my complete and utter disdain for the modern PC FPS), Idon't think either game will live up to their hype, and HL2 is in danger of disappointing big-time.

po0k

if they STEAM it it'll be the death knell.

I'm looking forward to Doom3, it has the feeling of being a far more one-on-one slower-paced game.

mewso

With Doom 3 I'm just hoping it will be a good single player experience considering it's brought to you by the man who couldn't give diddly about sinlge player gaming.

Retr0gamer

I just wrote a huge rant but Boards.ie ate it.

These two games imo will probably not deserve 100% ratings. No games do. The fps genre has been stagnant in terms of new ideas on the PC. These games will be at most great run of the mill first person shooters but nothing more. They will offer nothing new except amybe graphically. Metroid PRime showed what could be done with a fps and that it didn't have to follow the path of other fps games. However it has been ignored by most designers. Metroid Prime 2 will be a better game (and probably Halo 2 as well but I won't go into that).

Are any of you PC heads not sick of fps games. I'm getting a little tired of them.

[edit] PCGamer has been a **** factory for the last few years. i wouldn't believe any of their reviews.

KdjaCL

you rant a lot , having issues at home? PI board there if you need it. We can all share your problem and hug.



kdjac

Retr0gamer

My jobs boring and my PS2 is broken. I won't be able to take it if I lose one more console.

monument

Originally posted by NekkidBibleMan
Percentages are rubbish, anyway.

To make it fair, I’ve added that to the poll – in addition I estimated how many other people agree

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tman

no offence monument... but this is a valid thread and poll. changing the title and poll results was a fairly childish thing to do.

bizmark

indeed

RobertFoster

How'd it get so many votes in less than 24hours?

User45701

It didnt the mod eddited the poll.

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amp

Consider the new poll options.

User45701, shut the fuck up. If you don't like this thread anymore then don't read it. Don't start demanding it be closed.

As for mods messing with polls, well that won't be happening again either, unless the following criteria are met:

1. It's funny.
2. The creater of the poll is a moron.
3. If virgo is in aquarius.

If anyone finds this unacceptable then I suggest they post polls elsewhere.

I'm closing this now because it's now off-topic.

monument

Originally posted by tman
no offence monument... but this is a valid thread and poll. changing the title and poll results was a fairly childish thing to do.

No offence taken. By the way, I only added another answer, and added the edge to it.

In retrospect, it was childish, and I was acting like a muppet by giving the extra answer such an unfair advantage.

Taken how insecure and unrepresentative polls on boards are I’m more then surprised how people take them so seriously - so, direct all hate mail, and death threats to monument@gamestoaster.com .

Regards,

Muppetment