Whos getting this?

Zhane

Cos i am!, i cant wait for it. have you seen the graphics that it can handle?

RobertFoster

not I! priced between $250 and $500 at launch...no thanks...

tman

Originally posted by RobertFoster
not I! priced between $250 and $500 at launch...no thanks...

that's a fairly vague price
17" monitor + 32" widescreen tv at home... think i'll pass thanks

koneko

Meh, think I'll stick with my Tapwave Zodiac for now

Might get one if/when they're cheap and secondhand.

daveffrench

its priced to go between $125-$200 at launch.

pauldeehan

Was going to get it just for Metal Gear Acid, but that I hear its a turnbased card game I'm thinking I won't bother.

daveffrench

but what about the nintendo ds. that looks preety good too. which do ye think is better the nintendo ds or psp??

weemcd

i think the psp looks more grown up, probably for the same people the original playstation was aimed towards ie those in their 20's+. the gba ds looks more childish and nintendo games tend to be more colourfulll and childish so its up to personal preference really

ObeyGiant

I was playing Halo the other night.
Housemate: "What is it about watching other people play video games that makes me want to throw the console out the window?"

I think a PSP, clunky as it may be, might save me a whole load of grief.

I also like the fact that they're promising WiFi capability - done right, this could lead to some amazing social gaming (sitting on a bus, notice someone else with a PSP and boom, you're in a game against them).

po0k

Originally posted by ObeyGiant
I was playing Halo the other night.
Housemate: "What is it about watching other people play video games that makes me want to throw the console out the window?"

I think your friend's answer is in the first line above.

daveffrench

i think it should be interesting to see which will come out on top when there realised. the ps has been on top of the console market and nintendo have really been the only real handheld competitor but if the psp is the top seller, the playstation will dominate the market.

Pugsley

The PSP will dominate the hand held market now for the sole reason its sony pretty much, the PS would never have sold if sony didnt put billions into it, and be made by sony, and Im sure they'll do the same here and totally take over.

daveffrench

that is very true. the psp has kind of a sexy look about it........:cool:

amp

It does have Sonys sexy stylings, but it's really all about the price and the games that come out for it.

Nintendo's DS looks good in that their actually going for something completely new, with the pen interface and dual screens so at the moment if I had to choose between the two I'd probably go for the DS.

Jim

Sony are theaving gypsies as far as I'm concerned.
From the start I never really enjoyed playstation games, and always stuck with my N64/GC/GBA. If I was pushed I'd buy the DS, but I've contracted fully into my pc as of late...

daveffrench

The resolution for both screens on the DS is 256x192.

The resolution for the PSP is 480x272. Obviously the PSP will look nicer.

Dont be at yourself

There's far too many unknowns about it right now.

How much will it cost? What about the games? What about the movies and music? What's the actual battery life? How on earth is that screen not going to scratched to pieces by my keys in my pocket?

So far all they've provided us with is a lovely looking design for the system, and not much else.

Slightly off topic, but: I've just noticed the MagicGate logo underneath the D-Pad, does this mean it takes memory sticks as well?

ObeyGiant

Originally posted by NekkidBibleMan
Slightly off topic, but: I've just noticed the MagicGate logo underneath the D-Pad, does this mean it takes memory sticks as well?

This month's Edge has shots of all corners of the PSP, and yes, it takes memory sticks. The guy from Sony that they interviewed reckoned these could be used to store downloaded content for some games (e.g. additional tracks for Wipeout).

CombatCow

The good thing about the DS is that it can play GBA games, but the new psp will have to start fresh with these mini cd things.:dunno:

Does anyone know if the DS will use A LOT more battery power now that it has an extra screen ?

CombatCow

weemcd

Originally posted by NekkidBibleMan
How on earth is that screen not going to scratched to pieces by my keys in my pocket?

there is a cover for the front of the console as far as i am aware to keep it clean and scratch free

RobertFoster

Originally posted by NekkidBibleMan
There's far too many unknowns about it right now.

read this

Dont be at yourself

Yes, whatever about the public, it's certainly not a good sign when the boss of one of the largest publishers in the world is unaware of key points regarding the PSP. And the launch is just around the corner? Are Sony yet again rushing a console to market?

Retr0gamer

I think if it wasn't for the pricing the PSP would wipe the floor with the DS. However Nintendo have stated that the DS will be an affordable price, <150 dollars. From the specs I'd say the PSP will be far more expensive and out of the price bracket for most kids and teenagers. I'd say about 300-350 dollars

It will be interesting to see how it develops. I'm more interested in the DS. The new ideas it uses will make for very interesting games if used right. I'll still probably buy both.

Placebo

i read the price is going to be around 350 €
i mean, no way hozay i`m paying that .

also games aint gonna be cheap and yOU gotta buy Special movies, yeah you heard me lets get a movie to watch on a small screen.

i`ll get it when price seems reasonable and i hope they crack down the system and get hacks and mods for it so people can play their own videos.

They were playing music videos on the psp in E3, they hardly expect us to spend money on a music video now ?

Jim

Would you be able to transfere movie files onto the memory stick and then watch them on the PSP? And music?

That would be rather nifty.

Retr0gamer

Would you be able to transfere movie files onto the memory stick and then watch them on the PSP? And music?

I severely doubt it. Maybe if a mod chip becomes available but otherwise probably not. Sony is trying to make the UMD format that the PSP uses a new standard media for music and films. They seem to be promoting it a lot and have bought shares in a major film studio, MGM I think, and will probably use them as a base for UMD discs. I would think that it would be very harmful to sonys UMD plans if they let you put music or videos on the memory stick.

Jim

See? Theavin gypises. Only after the gold.
Why can't they just give the public what they want for a change. I'm sure they have enough cash at this stage.

rainbow kirby

The thing which would annoy me about the PSP (apart from the price...im a poor student) is the battery life. Apparently its only about 2.5 hours for games and movies...
i'll be getting a DS. i'm such a nintendo addict...just got wario ware inc today, and if wario ware ds is anything like as mad it'll be fantastic! and if they sort out the controls, metroid: hunters looks like fun. and the one...the only...Super Mario 64x4!

monument

NEWS FLASH – MS to give the public ‘what they want’

Nintendo repeats their E3 claim – “they [MS] don’t care what people do, just as long as they do it on their OS”

flogen

It looks as though the PSP is going to have great graphics, but as Nintendo said about their new console, gamers are no longer bowled over by just good graphics, for example, would you keep buying the same game again and again just because the graphics look a little crisper? The DS offers something different, and for a good price too. While there will be a lot of kids stuff, I dont think it will be as bad as before, even the GBA, and more importantly the GBA SP has shown some more maturity, trying to appeal to fashion consious adults, and bringing out games that would suit adults more (like MOH, some retros like Street fighter etc).

The PSP is bound to push itself as a boys-toy, for 20-somethings with big enough incomes, this could do damage to any possible xbox handheld, and could leave Nintendo to move to a more kiddy friendly direction, which I hope wont happen.

I'll be getting the DS, unless PSP offer me something more than a PS1.5 in my pocket at a stupid price.

Flogen

Creamy Goodness

don't forget the size difference the PSP is gigantic where as the DS is not as big

evad_lhorg

The psp is not massive. the casing looks a hundred times better than DS. nintendo really need to do something about that. to be honest I think psp will win this war. we saw with playstation that it didnt have better games than the n63 but it kicked its arse and the same with ps2. The stylus controls is gonna piss everyone off and I know it. its a clever idea but think about it. youll have to be either holding the thing in you left hand and using the stylus or have it on a table. plus i think the other screen is just gonna be a waste of space for some games. I hate sony and have never purchased a sony gaming console. I love my Nintendo but I cant see them coming out on top.


also whoever said the psp will be about $125 - $200...your well out. the game boy advance cost somewhere in there. psp will be nearer to $250. while id say nintendo will launch DS at about 170


EDIT: acording to this. the psp will not be out anywere except japan before the end of the year. also it says the price will be between 30000 and 40000 yen which converts to between €220-300. while it says ds will go for about 120 - 140 euro.

http://gameboy.ign.com/articles/523/523718p1.html

Retr0gamer

However Nintendo will have the time advantage since they are releasing the DS a full year before the PSP. The DS wil be out for Christmas in Japan and America and 3 months later in Europe (fcuking typical of Nintendo).

I think it will be a far more close run thing.

evad_lhorg

psp will be out in japan this year too. but

Rew

Originally posted by Retr0gamer
I severely doubt it. Maybe if a mod chip becomes available but otherwise probably not. Sony is trying to make the UMD format that the PSP uses a new standard media for music and films. They seem to be promoting it a lot and have bought shares in a major film studio, MGM I think, and will probably use them as a base for UMD discs. I would think that it would be very harmful to sonys UMD plans if they let you put music or videos on the memory stick.

Hmm UMD the next standard for media? Whats that other media format that Sony tried to push and failed... MD maybe...

I hate Sony, they make up rubish standards that only they use and then wonder why nobody uses them....

Who will want a UMD copy of a movie then buy the DVD copy (or vice versa)? Only way UMD will take off as a media standard is if when you buy a DVD or CD you get a UMD copy as well.

Ill buy a DS straight away (may even import via friends in the States). Cannt wait to play Mario Kart DS. Hopefully there wont be import issues with the DS and DS games. Would be nice if the charger was dual voltage (like most chargers these days are). Backward compatibility with my existing GBA games is genius, hopefully there will be link cable compatibility as well.

flogen

Originally posted by Rew
Hmm UMD the next standard for media? Whats that other media format that Sony tried to push and failed... MD maybe...

Dont forget BETA!!!

Unless it has amazing advantages and is very cheap, UMD will not be a new standard for media, DVD is pretty much set now, and no one is gonna change again unless its worth their while, besides, arent sony working with others on the new blue-laser disc media?? like DVD but 10 times more capacity, or something...???
By the looks of things, UMD and its player aint gonna be cheap, or have anything that DVD doesn't (besides size, but big deal... MD have advantages over CD, more than just size too, and they've gone by the way-side, except maybe for people working in radio).

Flogen

Kold

Originally posted by amp
It does have Sonys sexy stylings, but it's really all about the price and the games that come out for it.

Nintendo's DS looks good in that their actually going for something completely new, with the pen interface and dual screens so at the moment if I had to choose between the two I'd probably go for the DS.

The pen interface thing looks well annoying, apparently for the sonic game you have to keep moving it to keep him running, can you imagine doing that for hours on end?

monument

I'm not 100% about this, but I *think* the music videos + other extras come with the music media.

Edit: OR maybe that's what is on the 'new blue-laser disc media'?

Poz3D

Originally posted by ObeyGiant
I also like the fact that they're promising WiFi capability - done right, this could lead to some amazing social gaming (sitting on a bus, notice someone else with a PSP and boom, you're in a game against them).

The Nokia N-Gage and N-Gage QD already have this ability. Honestly it's one of the best techie gadgets I've ever bought. I have a load of my favourite music with me on the move, it's a phone and plus I have one or two brilliant games like Ashen and THPS which are brilliant in multiplayer mode. Plus there are some brilliant games coming out for the N-Gage this year.

A great thing about the N-Gage family is that both the original and the QD model are compatible so you can buy the older, side-talking design with MP3 and radio or you can buy the slicker, longer battery design but lose your USB, MP3 and radio.

I'm amazed these things haven't caught on in a big way!

Rew

Originally posted by Kold
The pen interface thing looks well annoying, apparently for the sonic game you have to keep moving it to keep him running, can you imagine doing that for hours on end?

Thats a Tech demo not a full game....

Originally posted by Poz3D
The Nokia N-Gage and N-Gage QD already have this ability

Thats Bluetooth not WiFi. WiFi compatibility means that there is potential to play multiplayer games on your PSP/DS accross the internet or over wide area wireless nets (eg: campus and office networks). Main problem with that will be support on both devices for advaced authentication methods like 802.1x and HTTP/HTTPS hotspot style auth.... But imagine 4 or 5 people spread over a campus playing against each other in Mario Kart or somthing

The Real B-man

PSP - playstion Portable Me Arse its huge imagine carrying that around in your pocket but its a ps2 in you hands none the less!

GTA on the move me thinks happy days

Creamy Goodness

Originally posted by Poz3D
The Nokia N-Gage and N-Gage QD already have this ability. Honestly it's one of the best techie gadgets I've ever bought. I have a load of my favourite music with me on the move, it's a phone and plus I have one or two brilliant games like Ashen and THPS which are brilliant in multiplayer mode. Plus there are some brilliant games coming out for the N-Gage this year.

A great thing about the N-Gage family is that both the original and the QD model are compatible so you can buy the older, side-talking design with MP3 and radio or you can buy the slicker, longer battery design but lose your USB, MP3 and radio.

I'm amazed these things haven't caught on in a big way!

the reason the n-gage didn't catch on is cos it's bulky and looks terrible. ohh and don't get the boards talking about the side talking thingy

RobertFoster

Originally posted by The Real B-man
GTA on the move me thinks happy days

coming to a GBA near you... URL=http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=55746]eurogamer[/URL

Poz3D

Originally posted by Rew
Thats Bluetooth not WiFi. WiFi compatibility means that there is potential to play multiplayer games on your PSP/DS accross the internet or over wide area wireless nets (eg: campus and office networks). Main problem with that will be support on both devices for advaced authentication methods like 802.1x and HTTP/HTTPS hotspot style auth.... But imagine 4 or 5 people spread over a campus playing against each other in Mario Kart or somthing

I know the difference The example the previous poster used was spotting someone on a bus with a PSP and playing with them. Bluetooth is good enough for this. In fact Nokia are bringing out games (Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon) that will support up to 8 players simultaneously on Bluetooth! Of course, range is an issue.

You could always play through the N-Gage Arena using GPRS but Irish prices for that are astronomical at the moment. At least the technology is there...

Poz3D

Originally posted by Cr3m0
the reason the n-gage didn't catch on is cos it's bulky and looks terrible. ohh and don't get the boards talking about the side talking thingy

Ah, it's not that bad . The side-talking is a bit of a problem, but you get used to it. I don't find it bulky though. Anyways, the new QD version solves the whole side-talking and 'MMC under the battery' issue.

monument

Originally posted by The Real B-man
PSP - playstion Portable Me Arse its huge imagine carrying that around in your pocket but its a ps2 in you hands none the less!

A laptop is a portable PC - yet, I have never tried to put one in my pocket.

Have you?

Rew

Originally posted by Poz3D
Ah, it's not that bad . The side-talking is a bit of a problem, but you get used to it. I don't find it bulky though. Anyways, the new QD version solves the whole side-talking and 'MMC under the battery' issue.

And they striped out all the other good features of the device

The PSP and DS will have the potential to support games that have internet servers making the number of players limitless (ish ) the WiFi solves the cost problem any way.

N-Gage is a dead duck at this stage. It was nothing more then a big marketing experiment from Nokia anyway. Make loads of mistakes, produce a **** device get
loads of complaints and suggestions collect loads of data and come out with somthing decent in a few years time (or lean their lesson and for get it!).

The version of symbian is going to get superseeded, all its technology is rapidly going out of date. Games support will be from all the companies that do all the **** Java games while all the decent games go to the PSP and DS

Id give them a life span of about another year or so before Nokia drops em. Nokia are a Telecomms company not a games/entertainment company. Basicly they will never get my hard earned cash for a games deck...

Rew

Originally posted by monument
A laptop is a portable PC - yet, I have never tried to put one in my pocket.

Have you?

Thats coz u dont have one of theses:

http://www.oqo.com/

1ghz and 20 gig disk... beats the **** out of a PSP and a DS

Pitty about the price.....

Retr0gamer

It's too expensive and PC games don't work on a laptop (cos of the mouse). Anyway Console games are better

huge

Originally posted by daveffrench
its priced to go between $125-$200 at launch.

no its not ill be getting a nintendo ds anyway

Poz3D

Originally posted by Rew
The PSP and DS will have the potential to support games that have internet servers making the number of players limitless (ish ) the WiFi solves the cost problem any way.

Games are coming out soon for the N-Gage such as Pocket Kingdom, which will support 1000s of players over GPRS.

Originally posted by Rew
N-Gage is a dead duck at this stage. It was nothing more then a big marketing experiment from Nokia anyway. Make loads of mistakes, produce a **** device get
loads of complaints and suggestions collect loads of data and come out with somthing decent in a few years time (or lean their lesson and for get it!).

I don't know if games developers would agree with you. There are plenty of games lined up from big developers such as EA and Atari. Also big developers are still signing up to develop for N-Gage. Capcom recently signed a deal to bring classics like King of Fighters and Resident Evil to the N-Gage. The future's looking bright

Originally posted by Rew
Id give them a life span of about another year or so before Nokia drops em. Nokia are a Telecomms company not a games/entertainment company. Basicly they will never get my hard earned cash for a games deck...

The same was said about Sony when they came out with the Playstation. They're an audio/visual company, not a games company. How opinions have changed...