Is it relay worth it?

Doc · 03-05-2001 1:59pm #1

The other day I had to be in Uni. at 8:30 to do some work on a project I then had classes until 5:00 when I had to go to work. I work in a bar to get money to pay for materials etc. and for going out. I finished work at 12:00 and then had to go back to Uni. to finish writhing out a presentation I had to give in front of the class the next morning at 9:00. I got out of Uni. at 2am and it took 30min before I could get a taxi home. When I got home the guy in the flat bellow me was playing a video relay loudly (but after a lot of stamping he turned it down

). I finally got into bed and found myself thinking that I had another 6 years before I become a fully qualify as an architect and that days like this have not been very rare this year. I had to ask myself is it relay worth it

???…

Bard · 03-05-2001 2:14pm

Yes Dave it is.

I wish I finished college- I was just lucky, job-wise.

Go all the way- it WILL be worth it... maybe you'll get a better flat next year, - maybe a better job... who knows?

Just keep telling yourself it's worth it no matter how un-worth it it may seem some times.

Doc · 03-05-2001 2:34pm

I have no intention of dropping out I will be an architect.
Still 7 years!!!
That night relay got me down the amount of work I do for my subject is huge and I’m in classes at least 24 hours every week compared to a lot of my friends who do 10-12 hours a week its a lot of time. When they tell me things like "Oh Dave I’m in so much trouble I have a 2000 word easy to hand in, in two days and I haven’t even started it yet!"

I relay fell like telling them to **** off!

Shiminay · 03-05-2001 2:39pm

Man - once you settle into a routine - your body won't even need as much sleep as it used to and you'll be thankful you've done it!

Architecture = good

not being in college = bad

I wish I'd done some work in my Diploma year and then done a degree and maybe now I'd be doing a masters!!! College rocks - stay there as long as you can my boy!

All the best!
Dav
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Panda · 03-05-2001 2:51pm

College has its ups and downs definately, but its more than likely better in the end.

I fupping hate doing presentations, i had one there a month ago for my computer tech class and it was ****. I had four pages and was really nervous and found myself just reading it straight off the page and not looking at the lecturer or the class at all.
And to round it off the lecturer made some sarcastic comment.

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03-05-2001 2:55pm

Aww man Drop out ! Just think how long a year drags in.Think of how collage gets harder by the year.Just think of all the pressure with exam's and that.By the time its all finished you will have missed your early 20's .You will go strainght into architecture having to do it all over again,deadlines late night's finishing off projects.Then it will move into kids screaming ,more projects to finish off.The next stop is retirement.Face it man its never going to stop,so you might aswell get used to it.

deRanged · 03-05-2001 4:10pm

it's totally worth it.
the first couple of years are the worst, it really gets easier as you go on. you adjust and plan better. plus you can start to work in college, giving tutorials or grinds or whatever - that saves a lot of time.
once you get out of college with a degree it really becomes worth it.

Evil Phil · 03-05-2001 5:23pm

Yep, it's worth it. I dropped out of Information Systems degree only to end up doing an inferior couse in Infromation Systems at night, while I was working. If I had stayed I'd be making a lot more money and have a much better job.

Moral of the Story: DON'T LEAVE COLLEGE

Lord Khan · 03-05-2001 5:47pm

yes ... women much perfere men who have finished college

Doc · 03-05-2001 7:34pm

Originally posted by Dre as in Dray:
By the time its all finished you will have missed your early 20's.

Man if you think you miss out on your early 20's by going to Uni. you must not have gone because yes there is a lot of work to do BUT... Party’s, Cheep beer, Women, cheep into clubs did I mention women oh I did well here is some more reasons women, women and more women oh yea and you get an education.

Victor · 03-05-2001 8:11pm

In the 1993-1994 tax year, I moved out of home, typically worked up to 100 hours per week (2 jobs + college) and earned the princely sum of 7,500 pounds (wtf is the pound key?) for my effort.

You might have it easy.

(BTW I'm now on 32k/yr)

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Blitzkrieger · 03-05-2001 10:16pm

7 years to be an architect! ****ing hell! I'm glad I didn't do that then

I've nearly gone insane in my 4 year course

[IAR]Nevermind · 04-05-2001 12:13am

for some reason my sister h8's collage , do ne of u go to UCD maybe u cud be her friend

seriously though

Cake Fiend · 04-05-2001 3:20am

Well, I'm really looking forward to my repeat year of 40-hour week Engineering...

vac · 04-05-2001 6:40am

*sigh* i wish i did my lc let alone college, i think about it all the time and wish i could go, i hate not working, i hate not having any quaifcations bar JC...

Some times i wonder will i ever get a job in computers and by the looks of thinks i won't

Stick with it you lucky ba*tard

Shiminay · 04-05-2001 10:09am

Originally posted by Kento-Shiro:
College has its ups and downs definately, but its more than likely better in the end.

I fupping hate doing presentations, i had one there a month ago for my computer tech class and it was ****. I had four pages and was really nervous and found myself just reading it straight off the page and not looking at the lecturer or the class at all.
And to round it off the lecturer made some sarcastic comment.

Which lecturer? O'Shea or Crean?
I'll find 'em and put 'em in their place! Iwas in that college before they were and I have the RIGHT to tell 'em what to do (we did in second and third year).

VacilatoR: Go do the Leaving - maybe a bit alte this year, but try for it next year.

All the best!
Dav
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smoke.me.a.kipper · 04-05-2001 10:10am

it's definatly worth it.

SHADOW · 04-05-2001 10:22am

Originally posted by Doc:
the amount of work I do for my subject is huge and I’m in classes at least 24 hours every week compared to a lot of my friends who do 10-12 hours a week its a lot of time.

24 hours a week is not a lot of hours. you in essence do one days worth of lectures a week. Engineering courses usually have about 40 hours a week, which is nearly twice what you have.

People say that college gets easier as you go along. I have to say that I think that that is aload of pants. It doesnt get easier, you just get used to it. Which is fine because it doesnt bug you as much.

At the end of the day each to their own. College is for some people and its not for others. Personally I dropped out of college, but am now in a very good job earning substantially more than most people my age. In fact I have friends with degrees that are slightly older than me that earn less than I do. How you get on in life has nothing to do with luck only motivation and hard work.

You asked "Was it really worth it?". Well it is if you think architecture is what you want to do. Either way you are going to spend the next 4 to 5 years working your b0llox off, be it in college or be it in a job. Job satisfaction is king in my opinion so go where you feel you will be able to leave your house in the mornings with a spring in your step.

If the bottom falls out of your world, drink Andrews and the world will fall out of your bottom!!
games?

SHADOW · 04-05-2001 10:30am

Originally posted by VacilatoR:
*sigh* i wish i did my lc let alone college, i think about it all the time and wish i could go, i hate not working, i hate not having any quaifcations bar JC...

Well get off your ar$e and do somthing about it. Its NEVER too late.

Some times i wonder will i ever get a job in computers and by the looks of thinks i won't

If you want a job in computers you can get one. But you will have to do your LC. You are at a dead end until you do that I fear.

Stick with it you lucky ba*tard

I'm not having a go at you, but luck has nothing to do with it. Doc is where he is because he worked his b0llokcs off for his Leaving Cert. Luck is for the lotto imho, not for real life and working. If you are looking for opportunity it will eventually come knocking.

If the bottom falls out of your world, drink Andrews and the world will fall out of your bottom!!
games?

Bard · 04-05-2001 10:35am

Originally posted by Doc:
I’m in classes at least 24 hours every week compared to a lot of my friends who do 10-12 hours a week its a lot of time.

LOL!

I just noticed this Dave... and have to say "gimme a break, dude!"

For the 2 years I was in college I had an almost 40 hour week + study @ home + project work.

Now that I'm working (and working hard!) it wouldn't be unusual for me to put in up to 60 hours work in a week (whereas my hours are 'technically' 9-1 and 2-5.30 Mon to Fri). You certainly wouldn't hear me moaning about 24hrs!!!

Bard

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Evil Phil · 04-05-2001 10:41am

I work on average a 50 hour week, and then I had to go to college at night; admitably it was only 12 hours but that's a 62 hour week. And I don't get to shag other students! Stick it out, it's worth it.

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nesf · 04-05-2001 12:43pm

Originally posted by Bard:
LOL!

For the 2 years I was in college I had an almost 40 hour week + study @ home + project work.

I've similar hours in my physics + maths degree, sure I got mates in arts courses doing 10-11 hours a week, but when it comes down to it a BA in Maths is not as employable as a BSc in Maths. Plus seven years of college, you lucky *******!!

Trojan · 04-05-2001 1:35pm

Doc,

I left college after 3rd yr (Diploma) but after working for a year I went back and am now finishing my degree.. It's been a biach of a year, I've never had a tougher one,and not just cos of the course, going from 20k+ to being a student is just not nice. Still, I'm glad I've stuck with it and it's all nearly over!!

btw I was in college with Dav, and we did tell those lecturers whats what, so who made that sarcy comment, we'll sort'em out

Dav, my throat hurts.

Alo.

Shiminay · 04-05-2001 2:02pm

I can't imagine why you'd have that dry, burning feeling in your throat Al - no idea in the wide earthly world...

What are ya at this evening?

Wanna get beaten down in QW again?

All the best!
Dav
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Doc · 04-05-2001 3:31pm

Originally posted by Bard:
LOL!

I just noticed this Dave... and have to say "gimme a break, dude!"

For the 2 years I was in college I had an almost 40 hour week + study @ home + project work.

Now that I'm working (and working hard!) it wouldn't be unusual for me to put in up to 60 hours work in a week (whereas my hours are 'technically' 9-1 and 2-5.30 Mon to Fri). You certainly wouldn't hear me moaning about 24hrs!!!

Niall I know I don’t have 40 hours a week (incidentally for how many weeks did you actually attend all 40?

)
but its not the hours in uni that I mind its the amount of hours I have to spend outside uni doing the huge amount of work I’m set every week.
eg this week I have to design a two storey building and have plans, isometric projects of the two floors and roof, elevations ect ect. This on top of having to work and it is only one class that set me that I have essays and presentations to do for two other classes. So just because I'm not in classes as much as you where dose not mean I don’t have to work my little ass off. As for the 60 hours a week in work so you get paid for that and a lot better then what I’m getting in the bar.

P.S. I did not relay tell my friends to **** off but I did fell like it.

Bard · 04-05-2001 4:41pm

Originally posted by Doc:
Niall I know I don’t have 40 hours a week (incidentally for how many weeks did you actually attend all 40? )

Pretty much all of them in 1st year, notttt QUIIIIITE so many in 2nd year

And like I said- those 40 hours were not including assignments, project work, research, study, etc. etc. - it was a LONG week! (especially when you have other considerations like getting ****ed and stealing traffic cones and stuff

)

Originally posted by Doc:

As for the 60 hours a week in work so you get paid for that and a lot better then what I’m getting in the bar.

Erm... no... I kinda go above and beyond the call of duty...

I certainly DON'T get paid for working a 60 hour week - if I were to work normal working hours *only* and go home on time, it'd be a 37.5 hour week. THAT is what I'm paid for, 'cos being salaried, I don't get overtime, etc. ... but it never works out that those are the hours I do, - more often than not it's over 50 and closer to 60.

Just the way it goes, really... especially in this industry... everyone in our company is giving 110% at the moment to make sure we don't follow in the footsteps of ebeon (sorry to bring it up again Kharn!), Nua, Oniva, Rondomondo, etc....

Bard

"We do know it was we who scorched the sky..."

Victor · 04-05-2001 8:04pm

Originally posted by Blitzkrieger:
7 years to be an architect! ****ing hell! I'm glad I didn't do that then 

Well my experience has been that Architects are slow anyway (No offence intended to Doc or anyone else here)

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Ronan|Raven · 04-05-2001 11:07pm

Im only doin a PLC and gdamn it blows the hours are outrageous I have to be in college for a 12.45 eevryday and then they hold us until the god awful hour of 4.45! I finish in 2 weeks ill miss it! normal working hours will kill me lol

Is it relay worth it?

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