King of NEw Metal

EpYon

i have a question for all you rock legends !!!!!!!WHO the KING OF NEW METAL !!!!! SLIPKNOT or KoRn!!!! and i mean really think on this one cause there both great bands ...but which one is better ??? GO FOR IT GUYS !!!

Sefrian

Im not debating which one is better im debatin which one is actually NU-METAL!!!!!!!!!!!!! still debatin.................still debatin.................... oh to hell with that off to bed

ThrAx

Well Korn kinda helped invent the genre. The two bands also sound quite different.

(Just realised I don't really care enough to decide tbqh).

Shiminay

Best Nu-Metal band there is are The Deftones. Here endeth the arguement.

Karl Hungus

Judas Priest own them all!

EpYon

deftones are good i have to say but i dont think there the best .....its deff one of the two above it has to be i wont except any one else !!!!!:D and as far a juda preist.......Get out of my tread

Doctor J

MANOWAR, Kings Of Metal, whatever subgenre you speak of

Deadwing

Originally posted by Kharn
Best Nu-Metal band there is are The Deftones. Here endeth the arguement.

How dare you call deftones nu-metal.
Theyre so much better than that piss poor whine metal genre.

cournioni

Korn. Because they started it all really.

dabhoys

I'd have to say MANOWAR too. There are the true kings of metal

All men play on 10!!

evad_lhorg

Originally posted by Deadwing
How dare you call deftones nu-metal.
Theyre so much better than that piss poor whine metal genre.

exactly what i was about to say. deftones are amazing. they ould fit into the alternative category. definitely not in with that nu-metal name.

dabhoys

Who cares what genre any band are in. Its all a load of pointless ****. If something sounds good listen to it regardless of what people say or think. You listen to music cuz it makes you feel good. Thats what its all about. Not cuz its a certain genre etc. Just ****ing shut up and listen to it. Whether its Willie Nelson or the Deftones!!!

evad_lhorg

ok so youre saying willie nelson is the best nu-metal artist?

dabhoys

Yes genius Willie Nelson is the king of metal.

You totally mis read my post. I just said stop trying to oranise everything into genre's. Just listen to the music regardless if the genre is COUNTRY or NU-METAL or POP or RAP or what ever the ****.

Just listen to the music. If it sounds good and you like it what difference does it make.

evad_lhorg

i didnt mis-read. I was joking.

dabhoys

Alrite cool. Well my point is just listen to the music and keep rocking!!

EpYon

yes but were not on about metal were on about NU metal !!!! come on you have to say that korn is the best as it has been said they started it so it has to be prefect !!!!!which they are,,,,there ****ing ACE dude

Doctor J

Prong started it.

EpYon

omg doctor j....now im weird but man that was ****ed up !!!! where you pull that one from ???

Doctor J

Check out Cleansing and Rude Awakening.

cournioni

Were Anthrax not the first to use the rap and dj's mixed in with their music?

Doctor J

Beastie Boys?

cournioni

But the Beastie boys aren't exactly what you'd call "metal". They might have had rock elements but certainly not metal.

Doctor J

Yeah, but 'No Sleep 'Till Brooklyn' and 'Fight For Your Right' were heavy guitars with beats and rappin'... that's close enough.

Ph3n0m

Aerosmith w/ Run DMC


In relation to nu-metal, it is generally accepted that Korn did start the trend, and immediately apologised to the world for introducing Limp Bizkit to us

Sefrian

are bands like linkin park and "rasmus" not "NU-Metal" now since korn are 8 or so years old now cant be new now............... Then again i may be just rambling

Töpher

Christina Aguilera's the bomb.

Shiminay

The Deftones *are* nu-metal (what else would you call them?) and they *are* the best.

Korn started out so well and I'm afraid it's gone steadily downhill since the first album. Slipknot - a similar fate. If they had a decent vocalist they'd be flying cause their guitarists have gotten really good from what I've heard of the new album.

Cypress Hill, Beastie Boys, Rage Against The Machine, Anthrax etc are the bands who started people thinking about mixing genres to produce what's called nu-metal now, but they're all a different kettle of fish entirely.

dabhoys has made the most sense in this thread though - genre's aren't important.

Dathai

Rob Zombie uses a bit of fusion but I wouldnt call him nu-metal.As for Korn and Slipknot, I dislike both so I really cant say whos better.

Deadwing

Originally posted by Kharn
The Deftones *are* nu-metal (what else would you call them?) and they *are* the best.

While ill wholeheartedly agree that they are one of the best rock bands around, i cannot stress enough how much deftones arent nu-metal.

Nu-ass bands can be easily recognised by any one of the following traits:
1)each song has to have quiet verse...followed by HEAVY CHORUS!!! (repeat 4 times)
2)Each song must have some kind of in-yer-face shouty catchphrase that the kids can easily identify with. Examples of which are 'im one step closer to the edge, and im about to break! grr!' (ooh, angsty)
3)Each Nu-ass band must have a lead singer who was queered up\beaten up\****ed up and not afraid to whine about it. 'DADDDDDDDDDYYYYYY!!!! WHHHHHYYYYYYY DID YOU PUT YOUR HAND IN MY PANNNNTS?? IM ABOUT TO BREAAAAAK!!!!'
4)And lastly, nu metal bands must, by and large, be extremely watered down and barely noticeable as metal, so as to be ready for mass consumption by mtv watching, central bank hanging out in, clones.

Deftones are none of the above.
I rest on your face:p

honru

Originally posted by Deadwing
Each Nu-ass band must have a lead singer who was queered up\beaten up\****ed up and not afraid to whine about it. 'DADDDDDDDDDYYYYYY!!!! WHHHHHYYYYYYY DID YOU PUT YOUR HAND IN MY PANNNNTS?? IM ABOUT TO BREAAAAAK!!!!'

King of new metal is Korn, right? Since they started it all.

Karl Hungus

Originally posted by Deadwing
2)Each song must have some kind of in-yer-face shouty catchphrase that the kids can easily identify with.

How about "SHOVE IT SHOVE IT SHOVE IT!"?

I don't think they're crap, but Deftones are certainly nu-metal. If we stripped all the vocals away from nu-metal, and just considered the music, then I'm sure we'd agree that they are indeed a nu-metal band. It's all pretty much similarly styled downtuned riffs that the like of Korn, Deftones, Coal Chamber and the likes pioneered.

But I disagree that people should have ideas that all nu-metal = **** and lump everyone into the same pile as Limp Bizkit and Linkin Park. I also think that the rap-rock comparison shouldn't be thrown in as much. There's been some damn good nu-metal bands, namely The Deftones, but what about Earthtone9? And Chimaira's last album was pretty god damn excellent. I'm sure there's plenty of other nu-metal bands that aren't whiney, or crap, or watered-down.

Deadwing

They may have started out in the whole nu-ass genre, but theyve completely transcended it now, and are so much better than what that genre entails.
Even Chino himself said he never wanted the band stuck in that genre.

evad_lhorg

Originally posted by f®eak s©enery


King of new metal is Korn, right? Since they started it all.

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHA:D

j0e9o

1)each song has to have quiet verse...followed by HEAVY CHORUS!!! (repeat 4 times)
2)Each song must have some kind of in-yer-face shouty catchphrase that the kids can easily identify with.

Deadwing both of these statements can be applied to the deftones

Placebo

but what about Earthtone9

exceedingly good.


you all have it wrong though, the best NU METAL band/singer :

Avril Lavigne

Töpher

Originally posted by Placebo
exceedingly good.


you all have it wrong though, the best NU METAL band/singer :

Avril Lavigne

wow man, you're so hardcore, so underground!

:rolleyes:

Placebo

ha, you got me.

i only said it because what you said seemed that when slipknot did get a tv appearence they sold out.

honru

Lavigne should definetly turn to nu-metal for her next record.

I can picture it now...

projectmayhem

Lavigne happens to be my future wife.

anywhoo, korn are **** but their first 2 albums aren't actually bad, at all. quite consistent. slipknot are fantastic in my opinion, but calling them nu-metal after hearing their latest album is unfair.

as for the debate about deftones.. they're more progressive and interesting to be slated as "nu-metal". chino's lyrics and vocals are brilliant, and the band really try not to conform to the linkin park mantra to writing music.

CrazyTalk

Originally posted by j0e9o
1)each song has to have quiet verse...followed by HEAVY CHORUS!!! (repeat 4 times)
2)Each song must have some kind of in-yer-face shouty catchphrase that the kids can easily identify with.

Deadwing both of these statements can be applied to the deftones

obviously u dont listen to deftones too much