And So they begin

Lump

Rejection Letters that is.


Applied to a job in the BBC a few weeks ago. I got the letter this morning

We regret to inform you that we will not be pursuing your application further in the case

I'm suprised at what a kick in the nuts it has been.

Oh well keep trying.

John

P.S. I'm venting, be nice to me.

BuffyBot

Rejection letters suck

Something will come about soon, I'm sure though.

Auburn

Originally posted by Lump
I'm suprised at what a kick in the nuts it has been.

Oh well keep trying.

Hard luck! Don't let it get you down.
What's meant to be will be (if you believe in that stuff)

vibe666

for the last few years my G/F and I have been refferring to them as PFO's.

as in thank you for your interest in this position now Please Fuck Off.

I must have had a hundred of the things in my time. have to admit though that most of them are because of random applications to companies without even knowing if they had jobs going. pre-emptive strike sort of thing.

One time I got hold of a decent email harvester and trawled all the jobsites. sent out about 400 mails altogether with my CV. BCC'd the same mail to everyone with a quite personal looking 'generic' email. got stuff back from farmers and all sorts asking why an IT engineer would want to work for them.

got an 'A' for effort though. and a rake of PFO's.

in the end it turned out that someone had been looking through monster's CV database and stumbled across one of my old CV's I'd forgotten about and rang me about a job. got the call on tuesday, interviewed on Wednesday, got the job on the spot, quit on Thursday morning and started the new one the next Monday. Shame it was only a contract, but it was a good one.

I gues what I'm trying to say in my own rambling way is that it only takes that one thing to get you the break you need. keep at it and the first thing you do is re-apply for the BBC thing again. keep pestering them, and in the end they'll figure out that you might just be what they're looking for. nobody likes aquitter.

and nobody expects the spanish inquisition.

Lump

Ah well it's all good. I'm starting to think that the problem might of been that I'm not even out of College yet! Oh well I have a few more applied for.


John

thesteve

I'm in the same boat, finishing college this week and being riddled with Dear Johns... think my favourite was... While we were enormously impressed with your skills, abilities and background, we cannot employ you at this time... or something along those lines... ya right, if you were that impressed then you'd give me the fcuking job!

BrianD3

If you get a rejection letter/PFO, at least that does show some decency and manners on the part of the company you applied to. A lot of companies out there don't bother their arses to send you a rejection letter or to even acknowledge that your application has been received. So then you telephone them (at your own expense) to find out what's happening to be told "oh sorry you didn't get an interview" C*nts. Sometimes the same thing happens after you do an interview - you do the interview, then hear nothing at all.

Even worse are companies who waste your time. For example, you send in your application, they get back to you offering you an interview, then at the interview the interviewers are lazy, disinterested and appear to have not read your CV before the interview. They might start saying things like they don't think you have the right qualifications/experience for the position. Hello? I CLEARLY STATED my qualifications and experience on my CV. If what I have is not suitable for the position then why the ****am I sitting here wasting my time at an interview where I have no chance of getting the job :mad:

This has happend to me a couple of times - once was when a recruitment agency got me an interview, the other was when I applied directly to a company and was offered an interview.

BrianD3

Lump

Yea well the BBC are good about replying to applications. I have a job lined up for when I finish college, the only problem is the money, £180 sterling. I'll be living in London I work out that the lost I'll have to live on will be £40 a week after rent, travel and Council Tax.

The jobs in the BBC, basically the same job I've been offered are paying £350 a week.


John

RicardoSmith

Hang on to the letters. You might need them if you apply for social security etc.

These days its rare to get them. I've done interviews, some in the UK and even some test projects for some jobs. Never to hear from them again.

I remember once I did some sample drawing for a graphic design position, only to get no feedback. When pressed they said not its not quite what they were looking for Then a few months later I see my sketches, as finished artwork in print on a booklet. Happens quite a bit in the design world.

emertoff

It's rare to get PFO's these days and some employers even consider them qaint. I just hate the standardised BS they contain when you do get them. Recently I had an aptitude test for a job abd was invited for an nterview afterwards lasting almost 2.5 hours, the hottest grilling of my life, like the bloody Nuremburg Trials it was. They were all smiles when it ended and I was shown around, even to the extent of being shown where 'my' desk would be.

I left feeling good and expecting a phone call. Anyway the days slip by and a mate from where I used to work tells me they have even done a reference check which I know was good. Even more hopeful because of this. Days slip by. Eventually I call them. Got through to reception and asked to speak to the HR Manager who interviewed me

ME: Can I speak to Ms. X please?
SEC: Erm, she's not available
ME: Can I leave a message?
SEC: Well, let's see.....she's actually on a training course for the rest of the week
ME: I was hoping to learn the outcome of my recent application
SEC: I don't know anything about that, there might be something lying around the office (paper shuffling sound follows). Well, we'll be writing to everyone who applied anyway, is that all right?

A week later I do get the PFO. Telling me my application would not be 'processed' further (as if I was some defective piece of machinery that had failed quality control) but I could take heart by the fact they were charitable enough to keep my application on file for 12 months and would be contacted if something 'more suitable' arose. How thoughtful. I would prefer if it was just an upfront rejection, rather than the usual stream of euphemisms and faked compensatory language.

whosurpaddy

id say if you really want the bbc job, send them a letter thanking them for being considered etc. makes you stand out from the pack.

you never know when the guy they were going to hire turns them down at the last minute or else another similar job comes up. ive seen it happen.

dont ever get your hopes up about a job until uve started your first day, no matter how much they seem to want you. something can always crop up on either side.

i remember exchanging emails with a HR person for months for a job last year. really seemed to want me. did what i considered to be a very good interview. got very positive vibes. then got a pfo phone call. a nicer touch than a letter i thought.

course it didnt seem so bad when i got a better job the next week and a month later the original company started laying people off. moral of the story is what may seem like a kick in the nuts today might turn out to be for the best down the line.

gibbie

I'm in the process of job hunting myself and collecting my latest batch of PFOs.

When I first left school and was looking for my first job, it took me 5 months to find a job in my field. I kept a copy of every cover letter I sent out. Once I got a job, the file went under my bed and I didn't find it until a couple of years later when I was moving.

I was astounded at how thick the file was, it was about the size of the Golden Pages. I had my ups and downs but I didn't grasp just how long I kept at the job search until I saw that folder again.

Lump

Originally posted by whosurpaddy
id say if you really want the bbc job, send them a letter thanking them for being considered etc. makes you stand out from the pack.

you never know when the guy they were going to hire turns them down at the last minute or else another similar job comes up. ive seen it happen.

dont ever get your hopes up about a job until uve started your first day, no matter how much they seem to want you. something can always crop up on either side.

i remember exchanging emails with a HR person for months for a job last year. really seemed to want me. did what i considered to be a very good interview. got very positive vibes. then got a pfo phone call. a nicer touch than a letter i thought.

course it didnt seem so bad when i got a better job the next week and a month later the original company started laying people off. moral of the story is what may seem like a kick in the nuts today might turn out to be for the best down the line.

Took your advice, Mailed a letter.


John

whosurpaddy

cool. it may turn out nothing, but nothing ventured, nothing gained. i always thought it was a nice touch and ive seen people get jobs because of it.