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What's your favourite Star Trek Series?

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 319 ✭✭ jamsieboy86


    DS9 is my favourite by far. TNG was a bit too early for me, tried getting into it, but having been brought up an DS9 I always felt it was a bit dated. Really liked Voyager aswell, the amount of new species they encountered did keep it interesting. For overall quality of story lines I feel DS9 wins out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 704 ✭✭✭ Lobelia Overhill


    I don't know which series I preferred, I lvoed them all in their own time, first TOS, then TNG etc etc. I've not re-watched any of the series', just the odd episode here and there on Bravo and Virgin (found a Voyager episode that I'd never seen before and all!)

    My heart tells me to vote TNG as my favourite because I was crippled from a back injury when it was airing and I kept my sanity watching episodes, there was one in particular where Deanna kept hearing a tune in her head and at the time I'd a fierce bad cold with tinnitus so I was emotionally involved in that episode ... buuuttt something else is telling me I preferred Voyager!

    argh! :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 422 ✭✭ Dan Dare


    Watched TOS but for me TNG is the best, might start watching Voyager sometime.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,427 ✭✭✭ big b


    TNG by a light year for me.
    TOS for Mrs Big B, which has made for a few interesting conversations!

    Genuinely suprprised to see so much support for ENT, which I thought was riddled with fail.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,905 ✭✭✭ User45701


    big b wrote: »
    TNG by a light year for me.
    TOS for Mrs Big B, which has made for a few interesting conversations!

    Genuinely suprprised to see so much support for ENT, which I thought was riddled with fail.

    for a little while i was worried it would overtake TOS... that would be just sickening - delete the topic and create a new poll so i could change my vote to TOS


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  • Registered Users Posts: 504 ✭✭✭ Svalbard


    there was one in particular where Deanna kept hearing a tune in her head

    Hmmmmmm. Without resorting to google....was that one in which she had a repressed memory. Or when the dying Ullian was trying to communicate with her telepathically, to tell her about some atrocity that had happened years before?

    I think I have to say TNG was my favourite. I've been on here a bit talking up DS9, but at the end of the day TNG gets my vote.
    It breathed new life into the franchise. Lets not forget that in syndication TOS was idolised by its fans. Many must have been worried TNG would ruin the franchise, but it made it greater than ever. We may all disagree about the merits of DS9, VOY and ENT but none of them would have been possible without TNG.

    I think the litmus test is - if you had the choice to re-watch an episode from any series, what would it be? Most of the time it would be TNG>DS9>VOY for me. I have trouble concentrating on ENT episodes even if I have never seen them before - they're just so boring!
    Last night, for instance, the 2 part VOY episode Unimatrix Zero was showing at the same time as DS9's The Jem Hadar. There was no contest - DS9 won hands down.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,476 ✭✭✭ Mal-Adjusted


    Svalbard wrote: »
    Hmmmmmm. Without resorting to google....was that one in which she had a repressed memory. Or when the dying Ullian was trying to communicate with her telepathically, to tell her about some atrocity that had happened years before?

    I think I have to say TNG was my favourite. I've been on here a bit talking up DS9, but at the end of the day TNG gets my vote.
    It breathed new life into the franchise. Lets not forget that in syndication TOS was idolised by its fans. Many must have been worried TNG would ruin the franchise, but it made it greater than ever. We may all disagree about the merits of DS9, VOY and ENT but none of them would have been possible without TNG.

    I think the litmus test is - if you had the choice to re-watch an episode from any series, what would it be? Most of the time it would be TNG>DS9>VOY for me. I have trouble concentrating on ENT episodes even if I have never seen them before - they're just so boring!
    Last night, for instance, the 2 part VOY episode Unimatrix Zero was showing at the same time as DS9's The Jem Hadar. There was no contest - DS9 won hands down.


    I grew up on Voyager, so that'll always be my favourite, but my god! DS9 is brilliant! i'm actually surprised that TNG is beating it!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37 Funkyspunkball


    DS9 was always my favourite. The Battle scenes in the Klingon and Dominion wars were amazing... but the talky episodes werent as good as TNG...And come on Colm Meaney


  • Registered Users Posts: 37,293 ✭✭✭✭ the_syco


    TOS - all episodes were more or less originals. Wasn't very PC either. Bit of a b*****d at times, but hey, it was Kirk.

    TNG - Picard & Data were a good laugh, and the stories always had some feel-good laugh mostly.

    DS9 - there was a story behind it, which ran for a while. Was a good laugh. Lots of cool battles, and the lads could hop onto a ship, and do ship type stuff. Oh, and they killed people off. True, they killed off the babe, replaced her with a pint sized replacement, and the show shortly thereafter went down the hole, but aside from that, it was excellent.


  • Registered Users Posts: 636 ✭✭✭ Ziggy_1972


    TOS - Will always have a place in my heart. Grew up watching it in the
    '70s. Pretty much every episode has a good plot, so I can forgive
    all the imperfections.

    TAS - Barely remember it.

    TNG - Liked it a lot. Tried to be more realistic than TOS. Liked most of
    the characters, except both the Crushers.

    DS9 - Probably my favourite, maybe because it was the least Trek of all.
    I loved the political intrigue.

    Voyager - I liked Harry & Tom, but it was the only interaction that worked
    for me. The Doctor was basically Rimmer, especially when he
    got his hard light drive (mobilll emitter). Jeri Ryan was just eye
    candy. They really lost me in one particular episode when it
    turned out that they were all aliens from a demon-class planet
    who were impersonating them, and had been for weeks.

    Enterprise - Disaster. The entire point of this show was to pull in new
    fans, but they referrenced the other series too much.
    The final series was a single story, which never works.
    None of the interactions worked on any lever.
    Having the final episode star Riker & Troi just showed how
    little regard the producers had for it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33 Marko_Man


    Original


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,539 ✭✭✭✭ helimachoptor


    Grew up watching TNG and have watched them so many times as repeats same with DS9/VOY.

    I really really liked ENT as I have said before on here, if we went into space tomorrow we would be similar to Archer and his crew and for that reason I like it. Its not 100% PC but it shows the seeds of the Federation and yes even to a die hard trekkie like me some of the storylines are a bit odd I still like them.

    so TNG>DS9>ENT>VOY>TOS

    Not much between the last 3.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,476 ✭✭✭ Mal-Adjusted


    Ziggy_1972 wrote: »

    The final series was a single story, which never works.
    Which is why it's considered one of the best seasons of ANY trek show? (it was actually the 2nd last season)

    as for single story seasons never working, um, have you ever heard of this show called 24?


  • Registered Users Posts: 636 ✭✭✭ Ziggy_1972


    Which is why it's considered one of the best seasons of ANY trek show? (it was actually the 2nd last season)

    as for single story seasons never working, um, have you ever heard of this show called 24?

    Considered the best ever? Really? By Whom? :confused:
    I'm talking about the temporal cold was story, was that not the final season?

    The point of the show was to draw in a new audience, something it failed to do. A casual viewer (ie, not a fan) may watch a few episodes of a show, and be drawn in, so long as it is episodic, and not a soap opera.

    Yes, I've heard of 24, but I've never watched it. I thought kiefer was quite good in The Lost Boys, though.:D


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,476 ✭✭✭ Mal-Adjusted


    Ziggy_1972 wrote: »
    Considered the best ever? Really? By Whom? :confused:
    I'm talking about the temporal cold was story, was that not the final season?

    The point of the show was to draw in a new audience, something it failed to do. A casual viewer (ie, not a fan) may watch a few episodes of a show, and be drawn in, so long as it is episodic, and not a soap opera.

    Yes, I've heard of 24, but I've never watched it. I thought kiefer was quite good in The Lost Boys, though.:D


    by most Trek fans...:rolleyes:

    The temporal cold war had a few episodes in the first and second seasons and, was finished in the first episode of the fourth season. to say that the fourth season, (or ANY, for that matter) was about the temporal cold war is a streatch by any standards.


  • Registered Users Posts: 636 ✭✭✭ Ziggy_1972


    Hmmm, most Trek fans I know hated Enterprise.:(
    I'm thinking about the season in which Earth was attacked by that laser thingy that killed Trip's sister. Turned out the planet was inhabited by 5 races, mammals, fish, birds, erm, and 2 others.:confused::confused: To be honest, it was difficult enough watching it first time, so I've never watched the repeats, so I'm hazy on the details.
    Anyway, I take it by your sig that you're a Dune fan. I've just finished reading Hunters. Quite disappointed with it. Just Sandworms to go.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,476 ✭✭✭ Mal-Adjusted


    Ziggy_1972 wrote: »
    Hmmm, most Trek fans I know hated Enterprise.:(
    I'm thinking about the season in which Earth was attacked by that laser thingy that killed Trip's sister. Turned out the planet was inhabited by 5 races, mammals, fish, birds, erm, and 2 others.:confused::confused: To be honest, it was difficult enough watching it first time, so I've never watched the repeats, so I'm hazy on the details.
    Anyway, I take it by your sig that you're a Dune fan. I've just finished reading Hunters. Quite disappointed with it. Just Sandworms to go.

    the general consensus is that the first two seasons were terrible and the second two seasons were brilliant. your thinking of season 3, which is considered the best, having a season long arc. the fourth mainley had two and three parters. truly great.
    i remember reading that there was a change in the producers between the first two and the second two seasons...possibly accounting for the massive increase in quality. (though it should be noted that the last episode is god-awful, even compared to the first two seasons)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 orlypops


    The Original Series! :)

    Oh DeForest Kelley


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 2,589 Mod ✭✭✭✭ KonFusion


    Fuhrio wrote: »
    wo, im surprised at how many ppl picked ds9, ive tried to get ito it so many times, jut never caught on with me.

    i picked voyager, i just think its the best, although i realy like tng



    +1


    Voyager wud be my fav too. Its just the one that always keeps me coming back. Followed by TNG. Origional is amazing but a bit camp by todays standards. I liked Enterprise too. It was a nice breath of fresh air after watching repeats for years :p

    Trek on!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,320 ✭✭✭✭ Cookie_Monster


    I originally voted DS9 but having bought and watched all the episodes of Enterprise recently I'd be inclined to vote for that (just to give it an extra vote at this stage :))


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  • Registered Users Posts: 44,080 ✭✭✭✭ Micky Dolenz


    Kirk is the man.


  • Registered Users Posts: 238 ✭✭ myk


    I voted DS9. I watched TNG first when I was growing up, but the later seasons of DS9 were the first trek shows that I watched each week as they were first released.

    I did also enjoy Voyager, never watched that much of TOS, and didn't get into Enterprise, but am going to watch season 1 soon.

    I liked the long story dark war story arcs of DS9, and the same themes and techniques are shown carried over to BSG by the common writing pool between the later DS9 seasons and BSG.

    Aside from the war arcs which were more gripping than the arcs in Voyager or TNG for me, I thought DS9 had some great stand alone episodes. Even during the later war arcs there were many single episodes that explored the darkness and humanity in war.

    I really enjoyed the DS9 characters. Sisko, when he loses his hair and grows a beard becomes a bad ass, but an interesting bad ass. I think the acting and the character are good, though inferior to the acting and character of Picard. O'Brien and Bashir make a great duo; interacting well together as well as being interesting characters in their own right. O'Brien's war background and resulting prejudices come out, Bashir, particularly when his past comes out, becomes more than just a nerd.

    I don't enjoy Odo all the time as a character, but he does have some great moments. Worf of course is excellent and added much to the show when he arrived. Jadiza and Kiera don't stand out so much for me compared to Trek characters in the other series.

    Character-wise I think the secondary characters make DS9 stand out from the other series. Garak, Quark, Rom, Nog and to a lesser extent Jake are all layered characters even though they are very much in supporting rather than main roles. As an aside, didn't that renegade officer Michael Eddington show the maquis in much more depth and complexity than the quickly assimilated maquis officers on Voyager? Aside from a few episodes early episodes of Voyager could you honestly see the differences between the regular obedient trained and loyal starfleet officers with the passionate and driven rebel freedom fights or for that matter the former jail bird?

    The "bad guy" characters are more interesting and more persistant than the other Trek shows I have watched. Weyuon is one of the best bad guy characters I have seen in any show; malign, cynical, yet ultimately loyal to his cause and bringing humour. Dukat and Damar are also both interesting for different reasons. The female shapeshifter wasn't a character I liked though, and I never enjoyed Winn as a foil, even though she served a narrative purpose.

    Compared to Voyager and TNG, Jake is the least annoying child character in my opinion. He can still be annoying, but not to the extent of Wesley and that little girl from Voyager. The choice to be a journalist rather than a starfleet officer like his dad, sets him apart from conventions and shows that while starfleet officers are the main characters in the shows, they aren't all that is to aspired to in the ST galaxy. As a journalist he does come into his own during the station occupation. Nog is an under appreciated child character. In the earlier seasons he questions and critiques hooman/federation philosophy. Later he becomes a model starfleet cadet rejecting both the differing paths of what should be his alternatve role models; Nog or Quark. And his own war experience adds further depth to his character.

    I won't dwell on religion too much other than to say as with BSG it adds nice mystery but it can be unsatisfying when it is used to quickly resolve big plot issues and it is more difficult to resolve the religious ends of story arcs than it is to introduce the mysterious religion set up.

    My final part of my pro-DS9 rant is to point out how well I think the show does comedy. DS9 took the Ferengi rubbish from TNG and made them hilarious. Whether in full Ferengi episodes or small parts of other episodes Ferengi humour is done very well. At certain points Quark critiques federation and humans very well and it is presented in a humourous way. But even Ferengi aside DS9 has plenty of humour from Garak, Weyon, mocking Worf and plenty of O'Brien/Bashir stuff.


  • Registered Users Posts: 235 ✭✭ Carri


    I voted Voyager, TNG is good too, but I prefer Voyager.

    Saying that I started watching ST when I was very young with my Mom. Original Series is awessome!


  • Registered Users Posts: 45 ninety6days


    I love the non-stop combat action of the next generation, as oppoesd to the long, drawn out philosophical debates of DS9 or the stream of softcore pornography of voyager.


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,676 ✭✭✭ jayteecork


    TNG less than 50 votes more than DS9? are you kidding me?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 112 ✭✭ Teacherman


    I think this poll will be skewed. Why? Ask the age of the avg respondent. Prob 30-40. We missed Star Trelk Original but grew up on Star Trek Next Penetration (sorry Generation) and its heirs. I voted for Generation but original deserves more than 8%


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,139 ✭✭✭ nyarlothothep


    Yar the original is a classic for all time, its part of mythology now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,528 ✭✭✭ OK-Cancel-Apply


    TNG will never be equalled by another TV show...ever


  • Registered Users Posts: 673 ✭✭✭ merlie


    If I had to pick only one the it would be The Next Generation. But if I could apply another one it would be Voyager.

    But the TNG is the best by far :)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,905 ✭✭✭ User45701


    Teacherman wrote: »
    I think this poll will be skewed. Why? Ask the age of the avg respondent. Prob 30-40. We missed Star Trelk Original but grew up on Star Trek Next Penetration (sorry Generation) and its heirs. I voted for Generation but original deserves more than 8%

    I voted Ds9 but when i saw the way the poll was going i wanted to change to TOS because i only voted DS9 as i was expecting 2nd place to be between TNG & Ds9


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