Another legalising hash/dope/weed thread... but a lil bit ironic!

red_ice

...at least i think ironic is the word for it

im speaking from a third person p.o.v. here, im not giving any opinion for the fact that i want to see peoples reasctions, rather than comment on them. I dont smoke the stuff myself, never had an interest in it (i love my beer ). This post is not in anyway a 'do you want a cafe' thread, its just an attempt to see if there are loop holes in the system!

Im not sure where the government left off with legalising canabis in ireland, but with the introduction of the smoking ban in ireland will there be any hope for the weed smokers of today/tomorrow?

I know in the damn they have hash and weed books, with samples of what you can smoke and write-ups on how it smokes and the textures it has... but in ireland would (if it was allowed) the café have a hash book?

Granted hash can be smoked via a pipe, but the primary use for hash in ireland is a joint. With the addition of tobacco to the hash, its rolled and smoked - this would be outlawed... no?

Then we have the weed side of things, which can be mixed with tobacco, but lets say its sold in bulk and all used in a joint... That surely is legal?

Not much more to say, i think ive mustered up everything there is that i was toying around with in my head. Can you see any loop holes if there was a cafe in ireland?

red_ice

forgot to mention - would the cafe be allowed to have less than 40% ventilated area and still have people smoking inside?

AngelofFire

Hash should be legalised. in its pure form it is less harmful than alcohol and tobacco. It also helps to treat multiple sclerosis arthritis and epilepsy. hash could be taxed thus generating funds to help upgrade the health service. it would also take the responsibility of providing hash to the public from the dealers and crime barons who use it to fund their illegal activity.

bus77

I loved the gange went though loads of it.

I used to think it should be legalised then I feel asleep.

:DNo.. There's plently of good reasons why it should be made legal, but there's one thing that makes me say nay, "What else would the kiddies feel bold about doing?"

Think about it

Superman

ah sure, amsterdam is only a flight away!

I agree it should be legalised, but only as to take the money out of dealer hands who are guity of far worse!

I think ireland would be alot lazier place if it was legalised, think about how you could just sit in m4ckers gaf all day and get blunted on real whack.

apparently they are thinking of tightening drug laws in the dam cause whack is gettin really strong.

"hash could be taxed" i'd say it would be real high (no pun intended)

i think they should just make it so that their is massive penalty for buying and selling it, but legal to grow your own plants. that way people who appreciate the herb can do so without creating a criminal underbelly in society.

Gurgle

Does anyone think that legalization would make any difference to the number of people smoking the stuff ?

We're a nation with a long tradition of ignoring any laws we want until our glorious leaders start on a crusade to stop us, eg. speeding, drink driving, TV licence, pub closing times etc

This generally only happens if either:
1. The heap of dead bodies is beginning to block out the sun
2. The heap of tax euros is starting wear down

Who is actually going to take up a crusade against pot ?
They have enough real problems to worry about.


free the weed

m4cker

to be honest if legalizing canabis brought as many junkies into this country as it has done to amsterdam then i say nay.

however i suspect they are in holland coz they got stoned and just decided hills suck.
unless you are going down them


legalizeing it would have no effect on numbers of smokers because in the cities any way every body knows a dealer or knows someone who knows a dealer.

legalizeing it would however stomp out a great deal of organised gangs. look at the giligan story that revenue hasn't gone away it has simply moved on to some other big time half witted s.o.b. c**t.

ferdi

User45701

I dont see any problem with it being legal and taxed - would still work out cheaper than what ost people pay for it. You still wouldent be able to smoke it in pubs or cafes tho, - also in amsterdam they dont like u walking down the street smoking so mabe it would be like that here if it was legal

so that just leaves beer gardens and home

Johnny Versace

Originally posted by AngelofFire
It also helps to treat...epilepsy.

An ex of a friend of mine was a doorman in a popular wine bar in Dublin city centre. A few years ago he was attacked by a group of scumbags and a snooker cue was stuck through the front of his brain. Ever since then he is epileptic.

When he smokes hash, there are no seizures. When he doesn't... there are seizures.

red_ice

This wasnt a 'free the weed' post

Noone can see the irony that im trying to get across?

ferdi

Originally posted by red_ice
Noone can see the irony that im trying to get across?

we must be too stoned to see the joke.

RobertFoster

Originally posted by red_ice
Noone can see the irony that im trying to get across?

The fact that if it was legalised, it would still be illegal to smoke it in pubs?

bus77

Originally posted by red_ice
This wasnt a 'free the weed' post

Noone can see the irony that im trying to get across?

Ok , so what your saying is, If hash was legalised tommorow people would'nt be able to open hash cafes like holland here because of the smoking ban.

Ok so no hash cafes so. Dosnt meen it couldnt be sold in shops/offlicence's like fags are.

Where's the irony!?

passive

i wasn't sure if this was irony or not so i checked dictionary.com :dunno: (i'm not a nerd..honest. whether or not something was irony just happens to have come up twice in the last week)

irony: 2: incongruity between what might be expected and what actually occurs: eg: "the irony of Ireland's copying the nation she most hated"

so...i don't think irony applies to this. It might be ironic if the people petitioning for marijuana legalisation did so solely because they wanted hash cafes (and they didn't know the smoking ban would affect this...and possibly if they'd been in favour of the smoking ban)
its not the word. find a better word :mad:

Kone

I think Cannabis/Marijuana should be decriminalised purely from a quality point of view.

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So many Irish people smoke terrible terrible quality Hash/Soapbar...

Just think of the effect on the Health Boards.

Evil_Bilbo

The IRONY (you dunderheads), is that if doob wsa legalised, you WOULD be allowed to smoke pure hash or pure grass joints in a bar or anywhere you wanted (as long as there was no harmful tarry tobacco in there)

Some companies are starting to sell herbal cigarettes so people can smoke them in pubs/cafes etc. The law is against tobacco.

On another note - I reckon the smoking ban is the best thing to happen to dooby smokers. In the old days, going outside for a "smoke" would raise suspicion. Now everyones doing it, so if yer smoking a joint, no one will notice (at least no one who's not standing right next to you).

Kone

Originally posted by Evil_Bilbo
The IRONY
On another note - I reckon the smoking ban is the best thing to happen to dooby smokers. In the old days, going outside for a "smoke" would raise suspicion. Now everyones doing it, so if yer smoking a joint, no one will notice (at least no one who's not standing right next to you).

I disagree,

if you're smoking crap no one will notice,

if you're smoking good weed the whole smoking area will know about it!

AngelofFire

Originally posted by m4cker
to be honest if legalizing canabis brought as many junkies into this country as it has done to amsterdam then i say nay.

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contrary to pseudonymous claims that hash leads to heroin. the rate of heroin usage has declined in the netherlands since cannabis was legalised. as legalising it removes its association with harder drugs.

KlodaX

laugh my ass off with Ferdi and Kone...

... its not going to be legalised here.. for obvious reasons.

BUT ... the guards really don't give a **** unless you are dealing ... so I don't think it really matters much.

DAMM THE MAN.. FREE THE WEED!

bring some good grass into the country for crying out loud.. I've had enough hash to do a life time... some good weed wouldn't go astray...

*sigh* ... next time I go to the damm... I'm bringing an empty suitcase

Gurgle

Originally posted by m4cker to be honest if legalizing canabis brought as many junkies into this country as it has done to amsterdam then i say nay.

You don't think the junkies are more interested in the guys standing around at street corners calling out 'speed, cocaine, esctasy' as if they were selling lighters on moore street ?

m4cker

point taken but the reason they congregate in amsterdam in the first place is because of the weed.

alot of them are just english fools who just never left its the whole thing of bull of canabis leading to other drugs. some people control/stop their consumption others just drop off the face of the earth. i think thats what has happened to the Dam.

m4cker

here here Klodax

Kone

KlodaX, get yourself a few seeds and a growlight and BOOM! Free Weed!

m4cker

or even say screw the grow light and grow outside the plants aren't as potent but the yields are higher

JohnnyIrvine666

FREE THE WEED!! DAMN SOAP!!

wudangclan

the ghosts of christmas past?