Scrubs : my butterfly (19.04.04)

DEmeant0r

what did everyone think of tonights episode? It was great how they did both the butterfly landing on the woman and man. It keeps getting better and better.

Töpher

FÚCK! I missed it!

ixoy

Moral message aside, I just expect it to be good nowdays and I'm rarely disappointed. Shame the "double bill" consisted of one new episode and a repeat :dunno:

krattapopov

yeah thought it was a very good episode... started to get a bit worried with all the bitter sweet melodrama that was going on, but it reversed it with the turn around with the butterfly, very good writing

also the second ep thats on, the repeat.. hahah the janitor spraying jd with water, funny everytime

Zoton

The rack the butterfly landed on was very impressive!

Also, in the second episode was the guitar guy Peter Frampton?

ThreadKiller

That series just gets better & better.

kaimera

Originally posted by Zoton
The rack the butterfly landed on was very impressive!

the second time? :P

very good episode tho.

SteM

Originally posted by Zoton
....Also, in the second episode was the guitar guy Peter Frampton?

It was bugging me when I was watching it last night so I checked this morning. His name is Colin Hay and he used to be in Men At Work.

Jaden

Bloody good show. It is now on my "unmissable programs" list.

flogen

Im with you on that one Jaden.... its pretty much taken the place of the simpsons on that list tbh...:(

was disapointed that it wasnt two new episodes, but all the same they were both really good, inventive idea for the first one, well worked out.... I wonder how long it took the writers to think of a way for a butterfly to pretty much change everyones day...

Flogen

JCDenton

Aha yeah, 'twas quite funny when the janitor was a kid and lost his teddy ,vowed from that day onwards he would never let it happen again and picked up the broom.

Or Dr.Cox playing the banjo......

Tusky

Scrubs can be funny...can be very funny but why do they feel the need to do that "lets get serious" bit in every eposide... would be 100 times beter without it.

article6

Great show, better than a lot of the utter rubbish RTÉ put out. The janitor scenes were only hilarious.

quank

Originally posted by Tusky
Scrubs can be funny...can be very funny but why do they feel the need to do that "lets get serious" bit in every eposide... would be 100 times beter without it.

I dunno, tbh though, sometimes I'm not that fond of it. But I guess Scrubs would turn a bit too oh-another-crappy-american-sitcom, without it.

Pepe LeFrits

Originally posted by Tusky
Scrubs can be funny...can be very funny but why do they feel the need to do that "lets get serious" bit in every eposide... would be 100 times beter without it.

It's the only thing that really sets it apart from other comedies imo. Scrubs humour is fairly unique and 'random', but it's not that much funnier than other shows... the character development is what keeps me interested.

leonotron

E.R. crossed with Ally McBeal

GuanYin

Originally posted by leonotron
E.R. crossed with Ally McBeal

Sadly, Scrubs is probably more true to life than ER

DEmeant0r

Originally posted by kaids
It's the only thing that really sets it apart from other comedies imo. Scrubs humour is fairly unique and 'random', but it's not that much funnier than other shows... the character development is what keeps me interested.

Exactly! Couldn't have put it better myself.

Pigman II

Scrubs is the only show I actually rate as 'must see' these days. Every episode just oozes quality.

Originally posted by Tusky
why do they feel the need to do that "lets get serious" bit in every eposide... would be 100 times beter without it.

I don't agree. I think comedy works best when it is rooted in some degree of realism and (even with all its wacky daydreaming) Scrubs still feels more realistic and honest than just about any other sitcom out there.

Woden

another good episode imo and good that the death of the man occured in both scenerios

with regards to colin hay yeah he's the men at work guy he has another song on the scrubs soundtrack as well, i recommend the scrubs soundtrack in general i like nearly every song on it.

data

Agent Smith

Originally posted by JCDenton

Or Dr.Cox playing the banjo......

now that was funny!

Tusky

yea but the moral messages are soooo over the top and americanish... cmon you cant actually say you like them bits. The writing and characters are what set it apart from other sitcoms imo not those " And then I realised " voiceovers...

Pigman II

Originally posted by Tusky
yea but the moral messages are soooo over the top and americanish... cmon you cant actually say you like them bits. The writing and characters are what set it apart from other sitcoms imo not those " And then I realised " voiceovers...

I think its important for the structure of the show that those 'what I learnt this week' monologues are included. Scrubs is a show with a kind of hyper-warped humour that would just shoot off like a rocket into the middle of nowhere if it wasn't achored by some underlying degree of seriousness and gravitas. The monologues accomplish this and as a bonus also help to show that the JD character is actuallly developing as a person (therefore keeping us interested in him) and not just stuck in some mentally&emotionally-retarded rut that the characters of practically every other sitcom out there seem to be.

To see why I think it works as is, compare it to the last episode of Blackadder4 where the final realisation & acceptance of the graveness of their situation doesn't detract from the humour but in fact actually ADDS to it.

Alternatively, take out those monologues from Scrubs and all you've got is some guy walking around a hospital having wacky daydreams and learning nothing from his experiences. You'd probably say that you'd prefer it that way but try it for a few eps and I'll wager you'll miss the old way. All the great writing in the world won't save a situation like that. Just ask the people behind that show 'Popular' from a few years back. It had all the visual wackyness and politics of Scrubs but none of the reality, warmth, depth or progression and as a result (IMHO) tanked after just 2 (very poorly recieved) seasons.

Now fair enough you that might think the monologues are too 'wonder years' or whatever but I still think they're neccesary element in one form or another in a show as off-centre as Scrubs.

Kersh

I saw that episode. It is a deadly series. And your ones rack was savage.

Cake Fiend

Is anyone else worried that the series seems to be starting to flag a bit?

I loved Series 1, and Series 2 was more of the same with a bit more character development, but I can't say I've enjoyed Series 3 so far as much as the first two. I appreciate the further character development (necessary for the long-term health of any series), but the humour seems to be getting very predictable. Every time JD says something particularly geeky, I've spotted it coming some time in advance. Every time Cox has one of his little rants, I almost want to fast-forward it. You can be guaranteed that any time some children's program is mentioned, JD (and often Turk) is going to express nerdy inner-monologue passion for it. I have a feeling I won't be too interested in Series 4 unless they get some new jokes.

That 70's Show - now that's long-lasting quality. I don't know how they still make that show consistently funny after 6 series.

leonotron

You just destroyed your whole argument with you praise of that 70's show

Giblet

The next few episodes of scrubs are dog crap, too Dawsons Creek.

Woden

bah i think they're all good, got 3X19 last night and watched it this morning, wasn't in the best of moods and still enjoyed it

Pepe LeFrits

Originally posted by Dataisgod
bah i think they're all good, got 3X19 last night and watched it this morning, wasn't in the best of moods and still enjoyed it

agreed, they are more angsty than the run of darker episodes that preceded them... i still enjoyed them tho.

Giblet

I dunno, It just felt like 3x19 was done before, very familiar. The whole Sean thing sucks, he brings nothing to the show.

eth0_

Originally posted by syke
Sadly, Scrubs is probably more true to life than ER

A friend of mine is a 2nd year resident in a hospital in Chicago and he told me Scrubs *is* more true to life than ER, which is a bit scary considering how clinically incompetent most of the doctors on Scrubs are :-DDD

eth0_

Originally posted by Pigman II
Just ask the people behind that show 'Popular' from a few years back. It had all the visual wackyness and politics of Scrubs but none of the reality, warmth, depth or progression and as a result (IMHO) tanked after just 2 (very poorly recieved) seasons.

Eh? 'Popular' was 'wacky'? It was just a crappy program about life as a spoiled, annoying valley girl. As irritating as The O.C. I wonder are they by the same writer...dirge!

Agent Smith

dont get me started on the o.c

flogen

Pigman, you hit the nail on the head.
How could you have a show set in a hospital that avoided messages? and as for developing characters, if you think its unneccissary, look at Friends, Joey has been an idiot for 9 series, monica has been neurotic, chandler has been etc etc... its boring.

Scrubs is a brilliant show, some of the best comedy in a long long time, with some of the most genuine emotion on TV, I get more moved when something happens here than I would with a drama. why? because I know the character, and have watched him or her grow over the series (like my child ) and so can relate much more to them.

As for sean, he is an annoying character, but i guess thats the point, hes supposed to be the perfect guy that you have to hate, given the show is mainly from JDs viewpoint, he hates sean, but has no real reason to or justification, and i think I feel the same about him... hes just annoying... so there!

Flogen

ixoy

Originally posted by eth0_
Eh? 'Popular' was 'wacky'? It was just a crappy program about life as a spoiled, annoying valley girl. As irritating as The O.C. I wonder are they by the same writer...dirge!

Firstly, they're not.
Secondly, "The O.C." is quite brilliant - there's a seperate thread about it.
Thirdly, "Popular" had moments of excellence too. It had some of the same surreal qualities that "Scrubs" has - particularly with the likes of Mary Cherry or Tuna sisters. Did you watch many episodes? Surely then you'd have noticed this qualities. Unfortunately, in the second half of the second season, they went all angsty serious (network interference) and the show became a poor pale shadow of what it could have been. The same surrealness can be somewhat seen in Ryan Murphy's next creation - "Nip/Tuck".

Giblet

Ah 3x20, pretty good one, especially the last line and the music! Best twist ever.

Pepe LeFrits

Originally posted by Giblet
Ah 3x20, pretty good one, especially the last line and the music! Best twist ever.

Yeah twas pretty good, I love the way Scrubs can take the piss out of itself from time to time, the janitor's "you're not Ross and Rachel" joke was so funny

Woden

3X20 you say, i just got 3X19 didn't know another one would be out so quick

/me goes to rapidly search the interweb

Pigman II

Eh? 'Popular' was 'wacky'?

Yes, Popular was wacky. Its episodes invariably had highly exaggerated premises, numerous comedic vignettes and you only had to spend 5 seconds with characters like 'Mary Cherry' or 'Emory Dick' to understand this show was aiming for quirky.

It was just a crappy program about life as a spoiled, annoying valley girl.

I'm begining to suspect we're not even talking about the same show here? As the title suggests the show continually explored the definitions and perceptions of 'popularity'. Popularity that was based almost exclusively on physical appearance, academic activity and the cliques you ran with - not how rich or spoilt you were. As such the issue of how 'spoilt' each character was was never really explored or demonstrated.

Agent Smith

Originally posted by eth0_
A friend of mine is a 2nd year resident in a hospital in Chicago and he told me Scrubs *is* more true to life than ER, which is a bit scary considering how clinically incompetent most of the doctors on Scrubs are :-DDD

my sister, ( a nurse) said the same thing,



freaky

ArthurDent

Used to love it, but can't stand the way it all gets neatly tied up in the end , every show gettign a bit like the Waltons. what is it with Americans and their need for tying all the damn loose ens up.......

As they said in the Princess Bride

"life is pain, anyone that tells you otherwise is trying to sell you life insurance "
(or words to that effect)

Woden

hmm i don't think it gets tied up at the end of the episode, i think the opposite in fact, its more typical from them to pull in something unexpected or just doesn't make things all good at the end of an ep, like for example when j.d runs over to elliots house with flowers and there is sean with his massive bunch of flowers.

i think there is a couple more examples of this in up coming episodes as

begbie

Originally posted by Tusky
Scrubs can be funny...can be very funny but why do they feel the need to do that "lets get serious" bit in every eposide... would be 100 times beter without it.

Totally agree. I think its getting a bit old, scrubs that is. I seen the way an old episode was on after the butterfly one and i just thought the old one was so much better, Scrubs has lost it and should of went out when it was on top. And when a show needs guest stars for more than one episode, you know its going down hill.