Mothman

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I read an article in fortean times last year about the Mothman, I had previously never heard of the entity/phenomenon, and found it quite interesting.
you can read some of the article here http://www.forteantimes.com/articles/156_pointpleasant.shtml
The strange thing about it is unlike the grey's in the 50's the mothman wasnt a highly publicised phenomenon, yet paranomal researchers throughout the world collected the same desciption from different unrelated incidents and countries, I think the first sighting was in south america in the 1500's and the term"mothman" is a rough translation from the locals at the time.
Since then there have been many sightings around the world prior the world catastophies, chernobal, Point pleasant being the most publicised in the 60's and apparently 50+ sightings recorded before the Madrid bombings.
Although Richard Gears film the mothman prophecies made a haimes of the whole thing in my opinion, you can find many related links on the web.

GuanYin

Ok, I've read up on the mothman because it freaks me out a little.

I'm not given to believing in the illogical or superstitious but something about a "superstition" that is described independantly 3-4 cultures dating back to biblical times sorta grabs my attention.

Chinese have references to "winged Dragon man" that appears to fortel great tragedy. American Indian tribes had a similar winged demon that fortold death. Our own celtic culture has the Banshee, which is not unlike the mothman in depiction and this appears in Irish and scottish folklore.

Evil Bird creatures were mentioned in turkish journals from the crimean war.

In more recent times Mothman-like stories come from Germany in the 70's, Mexico, Bermuda and Chernobyl in the 80's along with the point pleasent disaster.

Then there were alleged sighings before 911 (Pennsylvania) and near Madrid.

Now considering the Mothman wasn't really subjected to media glare until the 90's when an x-files episode referenced it, I find it strange taht something appears in so many cultures all linked with death or tragedy.

It is human nature to put your own context on what you see and this may explain why chinese call it a dragon, celtic cultures refer to a woman (although early depictions apparently have angel like wings) american indians see animal spirits (birds) and believe ther eis a ukranian name that bears some loacl meaning.

It has even been suggested that the vision seen at fatima was a mothman, as it bears many similarities to the traits described. And fortelling disaster no less.

All in all, interesting subject, no evidence at all, but eyewitness accounts so diverse in time and culture as at least making one stop and think...

seanybiker

Just watch mothman prophecies its based on true events, really interesting and freaky at the same time ww)

secret_squirrel

actually I thought the mothman prophecies made a pretty good stab at it. The incident described in the film is one of the better know Mothman apperiences. The dvd also has a documentary about the real events too.

Is one of the few paranormal creature that really really freaks me out.

Torlac

yeah i saw the movie but the documentary after was the bizz.
Freaky stuff

seanybiker

I dont beleive it i love that film and i never seen the documentary. Must get it on DVD.

The Real B-man

couple of lads running around the woods:rolleyes: :dunno:

GuanYin

Sorry for dragging up old posts, but was reading an article on this recently - sorta spurred by the "birds as portents of death" thread that caused kerfuffle a while back.

Nice http://www.mothman.us/ here on this topic.

Particularly interesting photos, although I think the 911 is someone jumping from the building.

solas

well the article on the 911 image claims the photo was taken after the buildings collapse

"I live in New York City, and today I went to take pictures of the WTC's wreckage.

so I couldn't see where the jumper would be comming from.
I don't know to much about the mothman but I'd say most people would just write that image off as a bird, funny looking bird albeit.

Pighead

For a cracking read of all things "high-strangeness" Pighead heartily recommends you read John Keel. One of the best writers of all things Mothman I have come across.

Kernel

solas wrote:

well the article on the 911 image claims the photo was taken after the buildings collapse so I couldn't see where the jumper would be comming from.
I don't know to much about the mothman but I'd say most people would just write that image off as a bird, funny looking bird albeit.

Yes, the anomaly was noticed after the collapse of the towers, and can be seen clearly at this site:

http://www.s8int.com/eyewit22.html

Personally, I think the WTC pterodactyl/angel is an optical illusion of a normal bird, flying closer to the camera. If you look at the picture you can see a large crowd of people around the area, and I would be certain that many people would have noticed a prehistoric flying reptile or a mothman/angel flying through the sky.

The mothman incident at Point Pleasant, VA. is a case which has always particularly interested me, and for anyone interested in the subject, I cannot recommend John A. Keel's book, "The Mothman Propechies" highly enough. Keel is an excellent writer and investigator of the paranormal.

The whole incident has a degree of 'high-strangeness' and Keel himself was a believer in the ultraterrestrial hypothesis and interdimensional 'flaps'. It also raises many questions on the nature of time, and how there were accurate and impossible predictions made to Keel by unidentified 'mechanical' voices, which would (for example) leave messages for him at motels which he hadn't even decided to stay at until the spur of the moment.

A great case, and a great mystery.

User Named

The mothman only ot its name from a local newspaper editor near point pleasant not from the chinese. Native Indians have reported the same type of species but they referred to it as 'thunderbird'. Seen the film the other night and was intriged by the whole thing. I would like to think that maybe, just maybe its true.

Have been following the mothman storys for years now. Constant sightings all around the world. The funny thing is , you only hear about these sightings after the trajidy happens .

littlebug

he....he....he's here... :eek:

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055282828

faceman

Wow zombie resurrection thread special!!

Yeah the mothman tales are interesting but as Dre said, its always an "after the event" tale. Many cultures have their own interpretation of them. Dean Koontz took creative license and wrote about them but called them something else (which name escapes me) in his Odd Thomas series.

jonbravo

seen the film lots of times,i think the mothman has something to do with the amount of ufos seen around at the same time,the one thing i cant understand is the so called,men in black.are we to beleive that theres a mothman from eyewitness accounts,if so then we most beleive people in the documentary are eyewitness to the mothman and ufos...And i know one thing i wouldnt be talking to strange people in black without knowing who or where there from??,if they didnt tell me id run them!.............did anyone from that time question the men in black,i didnt read the book just seen the film??????

jebuz

Pighead wrote: »

For a cracking read of all things "high-strangeness" Pighead heartily recommends you read John Keel. One of the best writers of all things Mothman I have come across.

Hello. I'm currently reading his book "Our Haunted Planet" which is a great read, covers stuff like advanced civilizations that existed before us, dopplegangers and those crazy men in black...seriously though its very interesting. bye.