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Most over rated horror film

  • 18-04-2004 8:29pm
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    I bought the original Texas Chainsaw Massacre a few weeks ago and only got round to watching it the other night.
    Is it just me or is it the most overrated film of all time. I watched it once and felt disappointed so the next day I watched it again to see if maybe I missed something first time round. I hadnt!

    Sure its an okay film but its not great. The Thing is a far superior horror film.

    So what for you is the most overrated horror film?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭Johnny Versace


    What Lies Beneath - Harrison Ford and Michelle Pfeiffer.

    ...

    Since when was a door closing loudly, or a dog running into a room scary? I just didn't get it.

    The ending was quite nice though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭angelofdeath


    i liked the original texas chainsaw massacre, the most overated i think is the sixth sense, i thought that was crap and i seen the twist coming a mile off


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 920 ✭✭✭elvis2002


    I go for the Exorcist, its always number 1 of the most scarry film but I think its just the biggest load of ****e i've ever saw, there's not one scarry moment in the whole film i think. It's just a stupit film.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,080 ✭✭✭✭Tusky


    I like all of the mentioned films :)

    I cant think of one now , will post latta.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 947 ✭✭✭neXus9


    Yeah, at the time it crossed certain boundries (crucifix masturbation scene, "look what your c*nting daughter has done"), but it's pretty mild to todays standards.

    The end in don't look now was pretty scary!!!!!

    The ring was quite creepy as well.


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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 11,106 Mod ✭✭✭✭Fysh


    I'd have to go with either the Sixth Sense or The Others....

    A couple of vaguely creepy moments in them, but certainly nothing that would justify the ridiculous amount of hype around them. Plus the fact that in one the twist was evident right from the start and in the other it was just, well, blah. Interesting idea, yes, but still...I watched it and then thought "that's *it*?".

    Although I'd agree with The Thing as a better film than TCM, although I'm fond of both.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    Texas Chainsaw Massacre is definetly over-rated.

    It's a film that's very "Well, in it's day it was scary..."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 358 ✭✭Philbert


    Originally posted by elvis2002
    I go for the Exorcist, its always number 1 of the most scarry film but I think its just the biggest load of ****e i've ever saw, there's not one scarry moment in the whole film i think. It's just a stupit film.
    I couldnt disagree with you more Elvis! I still think its one of the greatest horror films ever made.

    However although I enjoyed The Ring (American version), I was very very dissappointed with Ring 1 & 2 (Japanese version). Completely overrated. And the worst thing is, it was the horror fans and critics that were recommending the Japanese Ring before the American version.
    Still cant understand it!:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,080 ✭✭✭✭Tusky


    I thought the ring 2 was complete rubbish , prefer the jappo ring to the remake though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,258 ✭✭✭✭Rabies


    I taught the Exorcist was fairly crap. I can see way it was banned years ago. Touchy subject matter for its time. By todays standards I don't think its much.


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  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I also think that the Scream trilogy are extremely overrated. Its their self referral, iron (Look were in a horror film situation) humour thats dragging down the standards of modern horror films.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 358 ✭✭Philbert


    Originally posted by Darko
    I also think that the Scream trilogy are extremely overrated. Its their self referral, iron (Look were in a horror film situation) humour thats dragging down the standards of modern horror films.
    Screams were terrible teenage sh1te!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,406 ✭✭✭arcadegame2004


    I think Dawn of the Dead (both the old and new versions) fall into this category. I saw Dawn of the Dead in the cinema recently and I was so bored by most of it. Only rare genuinely scary moments and NO real effort at an interesting plot. I didn't see the original Texas Chainsaw Massacre but I loved the new version and was genuinely terrified by it so much so that I literally screamed during it, especially as I mistakenly thought it was a true story!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 947 ✭✭✭neXus9


    Originally posted by arcadegame2004
    I think Dawn of the Dead (both the old and new versions) fall into this category. I saw Dawn of the Dead in the cinema recently and I was so bored by most of it. Only rare genuinely scary moments and NO real effort at an interesting plot. I didn't see the original Texas Chainsaw Massacre but I loved the new version and was genuinely terrified by it so much so that I literally screamed during it, especially as I mistakenly thought it was a true story!

    It's veeeeery loosely based on a true story. There was a guy that did kill travelers passing by, but he didn't go around with a fecking face made out of human skin. I think that was the only true bit.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 11,106 Mod ✭✭✭✭Fysh


    The box set refers to some dude who became obsessed with his mother after she died and then killed his brother but made it look like an accident...he was later found to have killed other people as well. I don't remember if he did the whole wearing skin etc thing, but I'll check when I get home (have the DVD on loan off a mate and there's loads of info in the booklet)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,304 ✭✭✭✭koneko


    Ed Gein.

    I wouldn't say it's based on him much at all, except for the fact human skin and parts were found in his house, adorning some furniture. He didn't live with a bunch of rednecks, and in short TCM isn't real... at all :) Incredibly loosely based. At a stretch.

    Original Dawn of the Dead, original TCM and original Ringu were all brilliant. I can't honestly pathom why anyone would slate them. Especially preferring the remake (in the case of Ringu). Boggles the mind.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    Originally posted by Philbert
    However although I enjoyed The Ring (American version), I was very very dissappointed with Ring 1 & 2 (Japanese version). Completely overrated. And the worst thing is, it was the horror fans and critics that were recommending the Japanese Ring before the American version.
    Still cant understand it!:confused:

    Because the original Ring was a very slow-burning film, that slowly creeped its way to the climax. The remake was over-done, completely Americanised, and they threw in a lot of unnessicary special effects which altogether killed any tension the film had, and completely stripped the ending of any effect what so ever.

    Speaking of which, Nideo Nakata is set to direct the American sequal!


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Ed Gein was the inspiration for both Norman Bates and Hanniable Lector also.

    I know Im a bit off topic but the sequel to the Eye is recieving atrocious reviews, which is a shame seeing how good the first one was.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,503 ✭✭✭Makaveli


    There's a sequel to The Eye?


    Most over rated imo is The Exorcist. I thought it was boring, and not in the least bit scary.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,148 ✭✭✭✭Raskolnikov


    28 Days Later.

    It was oki-ish until half-way through the film when the army came in.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    Originally posted by Darko
    I know Im a bit off topic but the sequel to the Eye is recieving atrocious reviews, which is a shame seeing how good the first one was.

    I have to express my suprise at this too... There's a sequel to The Eye!?

    Well, to be completely honest, I think sequels are just a bad idea in the first place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,198 ✭✭✭✭Crash


    Yeah Ed Gein was the inspiration for TCM, Silence of the lambs and Pyscho.

    i think the TCM connection comes from the fact that in his house was discovered a woman hanging from a butchers hook, beheaded. and the lampshades were made from human flesh and all this crazy sh*t.


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I read about it here first. If you search the eye in the search bar at the bottom of the page youll come across some news stories which contain links to reviews, all of which are negative.

    bloody-disgusting


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,255 ✭✭✭TCamen


    I posted already in the TCM 2003 thread, but I really don't like the original at all!
    I think maybe if it wasn't banned for so long there wouldn't have been so much expectation when I finally saw it in '99. I really thought it was completely un-scary and just plain bad-- esp. the crap brother in the wheelchair, the chase scene with incessant OTT screaming & annoying camera angles, then the dinner table bit with again more non-stop screaming, finger sucking & camera zoom-ins on the girl's eyes. It really did my head in.
    I rented it again this year, just to see if maybe I'd like it a bit more with lower expectations, but no, it's still poor imo.

    I like the Japanese 'Ringu' and the US 'The Ring' in different ways. Both movies are more or less the same for the first while, then both go off in different directions, coming back together for the well & finale. As someone mentioned the original is much more slow-burning & concentrates more on
    the origin of the girl & her telekinetic/psychic powers
    . The US one is much more a movie that casual viewers would watch, but that notwithstanding, I think it's a good modern horror movie, and a lot better than most stuff that comes outta the US.
    The Exorcist, I saw it when it was finally released in the cinemas over here, and I thought it was ok, but that it had dated badly. I rented it again more recently, watched it after midnight with nobody else & found it quite freaky. The sequels are all crap though.

    I'm surprised nobody's mentioned 'The Blair Witch Project'. Usually that's one that polarises opinion quite quickly. I personally think it's decent enough, if only for the ending, but not worthy of the best/worst accolade.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 11,106 Mod ✭✭✭✭Fysh


    Originally posted by TCamen
    The US one is much more a movie that casual viewers would watch, but that notwithstanding, I think it's a good modern horror movie, and a lot better than most stuff that comes outta the US.

    Still leaves a lot of scope for it to be pretty crap. I mean, the biggest horror film last year out of the US was Jason vs Freddy. Unfortunately, american horror seems to focus more on gore and audiovisual shock than anything else. Hence - crap.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    Originally posted by TCamen
    I'm surprised nobody's mentioned 'The Blair Witch Project'. Usually that's one that polarises opinion quite quickly. I personally think it's decent enough, if only for the ending, but not worthy of the best/worst accolade.

    How could I forget that over-hyped peice of drivel!?!? :dunno:

    Well, to be fair it was an ok concept, but it was hyped up beyond beleif and lauded as the scariest movie ever, that it was doomed to dissapoint. I think it was simply the fact that people who saw it first did actually beleive it was a real event happening before their eyes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,503 ✭✭✭Makaveli


    Didn't you buy the dvd of the sequel? :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    Originally posted by Makaveli
    Didn't you buy the dvd of the sequel? :p

    Yes, but that was only because I wanted to take advantage of the 2 for 25 offer in Xtra Vision when buying Romper Stomper, hadn't seen the sequel before, and there didn't seem to be anything else of intrest in the deal at the time.

    And yes... I did regret it immensly.


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Isnt the Blair Witch Projact nothing more than a rip off of The Last Broadcast?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,255 ✭✭✭TCamen


    Isnt the Blair Witch Projact nothing more than a rip off of The Last Broadcast?

    The Last Broadcast was made before Blair Witch yeah. Haven't seen it, but it's the same sorta concept with the handicams & zero budget afaik.


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The Last Broadcat was a decant enough film, far better than I had expected


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭doonothing


    weeeellll, i recently saw the original night of the living dead, and it was AWFUL!!!
    was it EVER scary?good god.....
    and the texas chainsaw massacre! for f*cks sake! what an overhyped pice of sh*te!!!
    and the exorcist, jesus, i was brought up to believe that was TERRIFYING let alone mildly frightening....

    the original ring was much better i thought...there was a huge building of psychological tension that just wasnt there in "the ring"....
    thats not to say "the ring" didnt scare the poo outta me...

    did anyone see dark water? there's already an american remake being made....sigh....

    was ed gein the inspiration for the book psycho was based on? because...yeah...

    WRONG TURN!!! THEY!!! THE EYE!!!

    (i thought they all sucked bottom so they did...)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    Originally posted by doonothing
    THE EYE!!!

    What was wrong with The Eye? I personally thought that was one of the best horror films I've seen in years! Better than Ring, even.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭doonothing


    oh god, WHAT was scary in the eye??
    ring chilled me to th'bone, the eye just made me feel...disappointed....
    nothing in it scared me...
    maybe thats cos ring wasnt really built up to be sooo scary for me, but everyone built up the eye....it could only disappoint....

    (and suck)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    Originally posted by doonothing
    oh god, WHAT was scary in the eye??
    ring chilled me to th'bone, the eye just made me feel...disappointed....
    nothing in it scared me...
    maybe thats cos ring wasnt really built up to be sooo scary for me, but everyone built up the eye....it could only disappoint....

    Well, I'd not really heard that much about The Eye, so I'd say it probably had a better effect on me. I know how hype can easily ruin a good film, so I do empathize with you on this.

    But personally I thought that the entire premise of the film was quite good, and it was handled very well, nice and chilling throughout. Especially
    The caligraphy lesson scene! Christ, I thought I had a heart-attack at that point! Or the elevator scene.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭doonothing


    yeah, i think it may have been a case of hype-icide for me...
    i hate that!!
    wellllll.....i was slightly p*ssed (out o' my skull) while watching it, maybe that contributed to its downfall for me...
    it just seemed a bit too japanese-sixth-sense for me.
    maybe i should watch it again...

    what did y'all think of dark water? it moved veeeery slowly, and the climax was sorta blink-and-you'll-miss-it...but, yeah, i lost a fair bit a poo while watching it....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,255 ✭✭✭TCamen


    The caligraphy lesson scene! Christ, I thought I had a heart-attack at that point! Or the elevator scene.

    They were pretty damn tense/scary moments alright! Overall I was expecting a little more from 'The Eye' due to hype, but I still enjoyed it, and it's certainly not as overrated as some movies already mentioned :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,090 ✭✭✭jill_valentine


    Isnt the Blair Witch Project nothing more than a rip off of The Last Broadcast?

    Nah, not really. Broadly similar themes, but very different movies. BWP is honest (and in my opinion, blindingly scary) horror, TLB is more of a horror/social commentary. TLB is a pretty good film, but the only thing about it that really scared me was the first time we saw the video and for some reason the computer's voice. ("WHY_NOT_DO A-SHOW A-BOUT THE JER-SEY DeVIL?"

    The Eye was good until the wheels fall off in the last 25 minutes.

    Dark Water had some good bits but was a little overhyped.

    But for me the most overhyped horror movie was the Others. So boring. So painfully boring. I thought there might be a twist that would make it all worthwhile, but nope, saw it coming a mile off, probably because my poor brain was overburning trying to find some sort of mental stimulation...

    What really p***es me off about it is how much non-horror fans loved it for precisely all the reasons they whinge about something like The Ring...:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 424 ✭✭the_obsolete


    Nobody's mentioned Jeepers Creepers! 'The scariest horror film of the decade'? Come on people!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5 ariana


    for me The Omen was over rated it wasn't scary at all


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29 Beatrix


    Have any of you ever seen "Wrong Turn"? Given GREAT ratings by notable critics it is the biggest pile of schize I've ever had the misfortune to see in my entire life. I watched it after watching The Ring and I was already pre-scared... it wouldn't have taken much more to scare me further. But Wrong Turn... it served as a GREAT comedic tension relief. The absurdity and predictability of the film makes me wonder... HOW DID THIS FILM EVER GET INTO THE SHOPS?!

    Horror? HA!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 424 ✭✭the_obsolete


    I saw Wrong Turn a few weeks back...came in halfway through the film and got bored after 10 minutes. What kind of a plotline has inbred mountain-folk hunting down seemingly innocent people? Come on...and don't anybody say The Texas Chainsaw Massacre! Leatherface wasn't inbred!!!!...I think...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭ObeyGiant


    Originally posted by Beatrix
    The absurdity and predictability of the film makes me wonder... HOW DID THIS FILM EVER GET INTO THE SHOPS?!
    Well, because it had Eliza Dushku running around a forest in a tank-top, getting all sweaty and scared and stuff.

    Come to think of it, I think I'll watch that movie again.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 11,106 Mod ✭✭✭✭Fysh


    Originally posted by Beatrix
    Have any of you ever seen "Wrong Turn"? Given GREAT ratings by notable critics it is the biggest pile of schize I've ever had the misfortune to see in my entire life. I watched it after watching The Ring and I was already pre-scared... it wouldn't have taken much more to scare me further. But Wrong Turn... it served as a GREAT comedic tension relief. The absurdity and predictability of the film makes me wonder... HOW DID THIS FILM EVER GET INTO THE SHOPS?!

    Horror? HA!

    I seem to recall shouting that at local cinema staff after having somehow managed to pay to go and see it. Bastards wouldn't give me my money back, even when I offered to erase all memory of the film by bashing my head repeatedly against the wall. Me saying the erasure process would be more enjoyable than the film probably didn't help my case, though...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,148 ✭✭✭✭Raskolnikov


    It has to be 28 Days Later. Starts off well, then enter the army where it seriously goes downhill. Also, for a city of several million does it not seem a little isolated and why oh why did the survivors when leaving London takes a dinky little black cab to strap luggage on the roof when they could have nabbed a Hi-ace!


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 11,106 Mod ✭✭✭✭Fysh


    Originally posted by Raskolnikov
    It has to be 28 Days Later. Starts off well, then enter the army where it seriously goes downhill. Also, for a city of several million does it not seem a little isolated and why oh why did the survivors when leaving London takes a dinky little black cab to strap luggage on the roof when they could have nabbed a Hi-ace!

    Eh? I thought the opening sequence of a deserted London was very effective, because it's the kind of place that is very rarely (if ever) that silent. A sign that all is not right. And I'm guessing they didn't take a Hi-ace or whatever other sport car they wanted because they didn't want to waste time looking for one when a cab was handy...

    I do agree it goes a bit wobbly half way through, though. I was never really convinced by the army men. Felt a bit...I dunno, like the guys in Deathwatch. You'll go along with them, but they never really felt like fully rounded characters, just two-dimensional cardboard cutouts in uniform.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 424 ✭✭the_obsolete


    I dunno, I kinda liked when the army sickos came in...it churned me stomach what they wanted ta do with the girls and the fact that they enjoyed hunting the zombie type things.
    Has anybody got the DVD? There's a radical ending storyboard sequence on it, and it's flippin' mental! Definitely for those who didn't like the army guys.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,793 ✭✭✭✭Hagar


    What audience was the movie "The Ring 2" aimed at?
    I mean if you saw "The Ring"......

    Just a thought. Don't mind me.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,567 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    the shining (actually most of King's stories are better as books - though salems lot was good - maybe I'm biased after renting out Maximum Overdrivel)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17 wrecked


    2 words "EVIL DEAD"
    sooooooooo over-rated how it got banned i dont know prob the creeper scene that it

    and the fact that the guy has a chainsaw in hiss arms led me to believe it wud been f@#kin used big dissappointment

    japanese ring= brilliant
    american remake of ring= bullsh@t, chessy, special fxs used to cover up how crap they made it, didn't fool anyone


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