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Why isn't smoking cool anymore ??

  • 15-04-2004 6:58pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 771 ✭✭✭


    When we were growing up we all though the big kids with the fags were, comon' admit it. I know it damages your health and stuff but so does alot of other things we enjoy like masturbating and drinking (my fav pastimes).

    So why has this changed ? and why shouldn't we just enjoy the things that we like without being oppressed by the goverment ???


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭flogen


    firstly, since when is masturbating bad for you?

    secondly, its uncool because thats what happens with fashion, it fades away, that and the increased public knowledge of the damages of smoking which heavily outweigh the 'coolness' of it all

    Flogen


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭Tazzle


    Yah, my uncle's friend's nephew went blind from too many johnny rubs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,114 ✭✭✭Kappar


    masturbating

    Hold the Phone, Stop the presses. Nobody told me this, I thought the priests were only lieing saying that you will go blind. What contra-effect does masturbation have?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 771 ✭✭✭Verdammt


    Well maybe I lied about the masturbating thingy. Sorry about all the skipped heart beats.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 947 ✭✭✭neXus9


    Masturbation will lower your sperm count (not enough for you to go anywhere near being sterile) but nothing else than that.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,152 ✭✭✭sound_wave


    lower your sperm count! thats complete bollix... give me a link that proves this .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 947 ✭✭✭neXus9


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/health/talking/tests/fertility_spermcount.shtml#what
    You should have sex about 3-4 days before the test but not again until after the test is done. If you don't have sex at this time, the count may be very high but the motility will be low. If you have sex nearer the test, the count will be lower.

    It'll lower your sperm count, but nothing to be considered significant. I suppose this could be only a temporary thing, but won't give much of a progressive lowering. It would only be a problem with people already with a pretty low sperm count.

    http://www.gsu.edu/~wwwhea/adv0053.htm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,892 ✭✭✭bizmark


    Originally posted by neXus9
    Masturbation will lower your sperm count (not enough for you to go anywhere near being sterile) but nothing else than that.

    :p its bound to when your wacking off nightly tbh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,152 ✭✭✭dazberry


    What about the loss of zinc because of too many johnny rubs (that's the funniest phrase I've heard in a long time - good one Poozle), which effects the eyes. Don't know why, just what I heard.

    D.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,730 ✭✭✭✭simu


    I guess it's linked to lung cancer not being trendy anymore:rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,798 ✭✭✭Funky


    masturbation helps prevent prostate cancer i think


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 691 ✭✭✭Ajnag


    This is the new COOL......

    martinm.jpg


    MANNN!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,004 ✭✭✭Big Ears


    Wow he's fresh !!! ww) .

    And i have to get me that comeover .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭Ragamuffin


    Originally posted by Ajnag
    This is the new COOL......

    martinm.jpg


    MANNN!!

    Wow he's the shiz- niz!:D

    The rebellious teenager we all want to be:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,761 ✭✭✭✭Winters


    The answer to the actual question all stems back to Alcohol/Pubs being cool.

    You see, drinking in pubs is cool. But not being able to smoke in pubs now removes the coolness from smoking. So really, all you need to do if you are not cool is drink and you are cool?

    Really, smoking hasent really been cool in the last 10 years. When you visit a hopital and find people coughing up themselves and not being able to talk due to smoking related diesases you realise its not cool. Also the fact that a large chunk of our taxes is having to be paid to combat smoking related diesases.... am i getting too serious for After Hours?

    Yea, smoking is uncool as you cant smoke in pubs, as pubs are cool.


  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 21,504 Mod ✭✭✭✭Agent Smith


    pubs are cool


    smoking is really a mugs game,
    (yes i know i smoke)
    and i wish i never started.


    remember kiddies, cancer is god's way of punishing us!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,698 ✭✭✭garthv


    the problem is attacking the issue of smoking in school,the whole idea of smoking seen as "being cool" back when your in school is just stupid,its cool right up to the point where you get addicted and then it becomes no laughing matter


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 947 ✭✭✭neXus9


    Originally posted by Billy-Joe
    and why shouldn't we just enjoy the things that we like without being oppressed by the goverment ???

    There is no oppression for smoking in this government. Every rule regarding smoking in this country is justified.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,848 ✭✭✭✭Doctor J


    Too many gruesome corpse pictures going around with tar gooing out of 'em.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,006 ✭✭✭✭The Muppet


    Health Education. Theres nothing like seeing the state of a smokers aorta to knock the coolness out of smoking.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,372 ✭✭✭Kone


    Smoking has never been cool!

    It's evil! Evil I tells yah

    your's sincerely

    A jolly smoker!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 579 ✭✭✭spoofilyj


    smoking is really a mugs game,

    Too true ...
    Wish I never started either caus now i really enjoy a smoke and yet want to remain fit and healthy...

    I'd say by 2020 smoking will be made illegal if not sooner...
    Ah well i suppose.:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭RossFixxxed


    "Isn't it a coincidence that all cool people smoke? Bob Dylan - smoker, Frank Sinatra - smoker, Hendrix - smoker, Vanilla Ice... non-smoker"

    Good old bill saves the day again.

    Ross

    P.S. Hey Kone! *waves*


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,025 ✭✭✭yellum


    Some recent study of teenagers that take up smoking found that they thought smoking was not cool but that the people that smoke are cool.

    Sounds like a paradox I know but thats what the anti-smoking people are up against.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭RossFixxxed


    I KNEW IT! I knew I look cool. As long as I don't have to walk up stairs, I look cool. :ninja:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 693 ✭✭✭The Beer Baron


    Whatever about cigarettes- but how can a cigar not make you look cool?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,730 ✭✭✭✭simu


    Originally posted by The Beer Baron
    Whatever about cigarettes- but how can a cigar not make you look cool?

    Coz they make a right stink!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,924 ✭✭✭✭BuffyBot


    Cigars = disgusting :mad:

    Cigarettes - ah now that I don't mind!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 771 ✭✭✭Verdammt


    Originally posted by The Beer Baron
    Whatever about cigarettes- but how can a cigar not make you look cool?


    Proof -

    me.jpg

    I'm in flavour country. It's a big country.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 947 ✭✭✭neXus9


    In the previous posts I was saying that masturbation lowers your sperm count.

    I actually wasn't looking for this but, masturbation can kill!!!

    and check this out aswell!!!

    It isn't a myth after all


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,455 ✭✭✭weemcd


    as a teen id say smoking looks cool, but I can understand that there is a price to be paid for looking cool. in our year there are very few smokers, and even less stoners, its only a very small minority.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 947 ✭✭✭neXus9


    Originally posted by RossFixxxed
    "Isn't it a coincidence that all cool people smoke? Bob Dylan - smoker, Frank Sinatra - smoker, Hendrix - smoker, Vanilla Ice... non-smoker"

    Good old bill saves the day again.


    They were all in the time when smoking was cool. They probably smoked because of seeing thier idols smoking.

    I havn't lately seen any films that glorify smoking. I remember pulp fiction did, with John Travolta rolling the cig for Uma and die hard with Bruce Willis.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,810 ✭✭✭lodgepole


    Originally posted by neXus9
    I havn't lately seen any films that glorify smoking. I remember pulp fiction did, with John Travolta rolling the cig for Uma and die hard with Bruce Willis.

    How does showing smoking in a film glorify it? Should every film show smoking in a negative light, or leave it out alltogether?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 947 ✭✭✭neXus9


    I'm not saying that any film that has a guy smoking in it automatically glorifies smoking, but some films portray smoking as an integral part of being cool. John Travolta's character, Vince Vegas in Pulp fiction is an example. There's a lot of emphasis on the fact that he's smoking in this scene.

    pic27.jpg


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