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Dying, is it a worry ?...

  • 14-04-2004 11:03pm
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    Dying, is it a worry too you ?...

    I am now of an age when the possibility of dying at any time is very real. I am surprised that I am not in the least concerned about this.

    A number of my closest friends and family members have ' passed on'. Yet I am not sad for them. I am more concerned for those left behind, the grieving families.

    I believe that we are born, we live our lives, some short some long, and then we die.

    How do others feel about this issue/fact of life, i.e. Dying ?...

    P. :ninja:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,025 ✭✭✭yellum


    The only thing about dying that would bother me is I want to do so much, I want to help change some things for the better. If I didn't have my chance to do something I thought worthy I'd be annoyed with death.

    Other than that I have no fear of death. I might fear the pain of death though.

    Ever notice as people get older they find god again ? They get to 50-55 and suddenly they are going back to mass daily making up for lost time. It's like they can't accept they are going to die and start forcing themselves believe in god to avail of a possible afterlife. If I lived to that age I don't think I'd be doing that.

    If I was to die I'd like to go with a bang. Both types.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 221 ✭✭MrBigglesworth


    I dunno, I sometimes just think "Sheesh, someday I will cease to exist,what the hell will happen?".
    Sometimes I think people don't think about death enough when they get behind the wheel of a car.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,484 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    To me, life is scarier than death. It holds more potential for pain and suffering than the nothingness of death. IMHO (not trying to start a religeous debate) death is the end, so I don't fear it. I'd fear pain more. I know it probably sounds a little ridiculous but I'd be more afraid of having my legs blown off on a battlefield than I would be of a quick and painless bullet in the head.

    I've said it before in PI, I'm not the happiest of people around and suffer from depression from time to time. During some of the darker moments of the slumps I've thought about and wanted to end it all. It's my love for those in my life that has stopped me because ultimately I'd feel it was selfish of me to end it all.

    I'm sure my opinion on this will change as I get older. Death is something more to fear when you've a family. Even if you have good life insurance, you're still worth more to your partner and children alive than dead. So, to conclude, for the moment, I'm unafraid of death, but I could see it changing were I a father...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,798 ✭✭✭Funky


    What is there to worry about, it's the end, noone is ever going to do everything there is, or see everything there is to see so at the end of the day there's not a great deal to aspire to. There's only so long 'history' will last if you want to go down in it as being 'someone'. That said I'd want to live to at least 60, though I can't picture myself living much past that...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,680 ✭✭✭Tellox


    I dont fear death.
    I fear the judgement afterwards,though.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,446 ✭✭✭Havelock


    Though I've no fear of Death, I fearing dying.
    I fear it happening for no reason, via illness or accident, I want my death to be worth some thing. I don't know why. Maybe to die for a reason or a cause (not a government or political believe), but to exchange my life for someone elses, to seek redeption, to gain immortality? I really don't know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,600 ✭✭✭Gaz


    Dosnt keep me up at night but yes its a slight worry ...the whole unknown is what gets me.

    Heres one for you , when you die time would cease to exist for you right ? Like when you sleep 8 hours can go by in an instant (poor example but you know what i mean)
    So when you die do millenia just flick by in a moment ?? And if they do everyone else is dead then too .....er .... hard to explain what im getting at.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,676 ✭✭✭ArphaRima


    It'd piss me off. That's about all.

    Nihilism is so boring. I think i'll start believing that I'll come back as a flesh-eating zombie. Or something like that. Way more fun.


    Depends on what you believe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,890 ✭✭✭embee


    Im not afraid of death per se, more the idea of dying and how I might die. In pain, over a long period of time, on my own. I think the idea of senility in my old age frightens me more than anything - the notion that everything who makes me who I am - my memories, my experience, my personality - could just disintegrate and all that would be left would be an empty shell of a person, devoid of my individuality.

    Sitting in an old folks home, not knowing where I was or who I was.... personally speaking, I think its probably the one thing that frightens me about getting old.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭flogen


    While I am afraid of dying a painful death, i am not afraid of dying (as others have said)

    Saying that, i kinda fear dying now, as I am quite young. I have stopped fearing what happens afterwards, because there is no way for me to know what that may be, so I'm happy just to get on with things for the now... i do want to be remembered when I die, as something good, maybe as a world renouned author (;)) or maybe as a father and/or husband, but just to be remembered in an honest positive way... I think I fear being forgotten (somewhat big headed) or fear having nothing good to my name.

    saying that, if anyone ever says how great I was just because im dead I'll haunt them. I'll also haunt anyone who does a eulogy about me when they didnt even know me, like what some priests do.

    Flogen


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,924 ✭✭✭✭BuffyBot


    Dying, is it a worry too you ?...

    there seems little point in actually worrying about it all. Make the most of the fleeting time you have.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,628 ✭✭✭Asok


    Tbh I couldnt give two monkies if I dropped dead tomorrow the only thing I'd care about is how it would affect the people I care about and that care about me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,257 ✭✭✭✭Rabies


    I'm not too pushed about when or how I die. Just don't really want to live past the age of 60. Don't like old people too much, don't want to be old :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 69 ✭✭Iron Petes


    Dying, is it a worry too you ?...
    Dying! NO!
    Dying with my trousers around my ankles (or something embaressingly similar)! YES!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,304 ✭✭✭✭koneko


    What Asok said pretty much.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭davej


    Dying kind of sucks because i'd like to see what civilisation is like in the future. What technological/scientific advances are made, what philosophies are in vogue, what understanding of the universe there is.

    davej


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,070 ✭✭✭hedgetrimmer


    I remember reading an Ancient Greek Philosopher called Lucretius, the book was called "On Nature", I think. Although I am paraphrasing from memory, I am pretty certain of the thrust of it, and I always found it comforting when cosidering death.

    In essence..

    If death is but a sleep, who would deny a man such rest after the toils of life.
    If death is oblivion, why worry about it when you wont exist to be conscious of the event.
    If death is eternal bliss, then it hold no fear at all.
    If you are doomed to eternal damnation, then just work on being a good person, but do not be fearful of death if you can thus change this outcime.

    We spend most of our time, he continued, worry about death instead of living life. It's like (my owrds here) drinking a barrel of wine to use the empty barrel, never having enjoyed the wine itself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,140 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    I couldn't stand the thought of nothingness for ever and ever ...
    I mean not being able to experience anything, not being able to think, to feel, to exist...

    Makes you appreciate just how precious life is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    Dying doesn't really bother me, apart from the effect, if any, it might have on those who know me.

    What happens afterwards is the real bugger. It's when you start thinking about that part that you begin hoping like hell you have a soul, and that you're not just a complicated machine that "stops". It would be nice if death was just an inconvenience á la most religions or the Discworld books. The worst has happened and you can, as it were, get on with your life.

    But who's to know? Whatever it is, it's pretty much inevitable, so worrying won't do much good. So I don't.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,518 ✭✭✭Kalina


    Death isn't something I think about much, it's not a worry to me at all. I'm young and relatively healthy so I've as goood a chance as anybody.
    Like Asok said, if something did happen to me I'd worry more about my family and how they would deal with it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,626 ✭✭✭smoke.me.a.kipper


    i fear others dying (like my family members) rather than my own death.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭KlodaX


    agreed... I'd be worried how one particular person would take it. She really hates death... even when the cats kill a bird she starts to cry.

    it doesn't bother me at all. everyone dies. the only reason people are afraid of it is because it hasn't happened to them and there is no one who it has happened to to tell them that it isn't bad. Its like quing for a rollarcoaster ... but you don't see the people getting off.... thats bound to scare you. It could be great though. We just don't know.

    I try not to fear things I don't know or understand. There generally is a good explaination for them, and they are never as bad as I had first expected. Why should death be any different?

    I'm more curious than worried. As for not getting to do lots of the great things life has to offer. If you start doing stuff now, then you have nothing to worry about. If you were mean't to do them, you will.

    Thats my 2 cents.
    ... no I don't want change! ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,339 ✭✭✭✭tman


    Originally posted by koneko
    What Asok said pretty much.
    aye.
    he has moments of sane, rational thinking every now and again


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,013 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    Originally posted by davej
    Dying kind of sucks because i'd like to see what civilisation is like in the future. What technological/scientific advances are made, what philosophies are in vogue, what understanding of the universe there is.
    Moi aussi. Probably as a result of reading too much sci-fi but I'm frustrated already hearing of all the possibilities lurking in the next hundred years, including prolonged life spans. It's as if we're only just beginning to discover what we can do, although that may always seem to be the case. So many questions will probably never be answered in my lifetime, and I'll never get to see man set foot on a distant planet outside the solar system. I find it frustrating, particularly when coupled with the complete unknown that comes afterwards.

    Anyone considered cryogenics in the hope they'll be able to yank you back?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,304 ✭✭✭✭koneko


    Originally posted by tman
    aye.
    he has moments of sane, rational thinking every now and again

    I treasure these moments


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,628 ✭✭✭Asok


    Originally posted by tman
    aye.
    he has moments of sane, rational thinking every now and again

    Aye they are called leap years


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    i was dead for millenia before i was born, didnt bother me then and won't later


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,140 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    aye, but there was an end to that "death" - you being born. The difference is there's no end to actual death.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    yeah but i didnt know there would be and end to it at the time and it still didn't bother me ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,372 ✭✭✭Kone


    Originally posted by koneko
    What Asok said pretty much.

    Nick-thief!!!!

    Ah Death, it's all good!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,208 ✭✭✭loismustdie


    dying doesn't scare me, we were somewhere before we were born and we survived that. but it concerns me that we can't have any interaction with living people after death,. i wonder why we can't


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,304 ✭✭✭✭koneko


    Originally posted by Kone
    Nick-thief!!!!

    Kone
    Freak
    Registered: Sep 2002

    koneko
    evil inside
    Registered: Oct 2001

    What were you saying...? :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,853 ✭✭✭Yoda


    All things are impermanent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,192 ✭✭✭Dathai


    To me life is nothing death is nothing it is out of my control and I just have to face it.I dont care about dying nor do I care about living,mainly because I cant see my purpose or what I can improve.Life and death are things that do not affect me because I have no fear of them nor do I have any sort of feeling twords them I just have to face them and when I'm gone I'm gone.
    Humans just create problems and when I die most of the problems I have created will be over and many people will have better lives.So I me dying will have a purpose:to eradicate problems I have caused.Wow I have just rambled more than I have ever done on Boards.

    In conclusion:
    Life is meaningless to me.I see no purpose for it only problems occur.It is something to hate as it only causes problems
    Death is something I dont fear it balances us from problems life has created and it is something to be grateful for in many cases.

    Do not fear death it cant hurt you,only life can.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 857 ✭✭✭kamobe


    A lot of people fear death simply because it's unknown, I'd take the more curious approach. I would however prefer to live longer then die sooner, as at least I do know (somewhat) what life is, and know I can enjoy it. I'd fear dying in my sleep, or unexpectedly as I'd like to be able to face my death, and know that these thoughts are my last.

    On a slightly lighter note I'm sure they'll have colonised Mars and cured death by the time I'm a pensioner, so I'll be grand...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,192 ✭✭✭Dathai


    They have its just a big secret..........shush.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,140 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    Originally posted by Yoda
    All things are impermanent.

    Except death.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,192 ✭✭✭Dathai


    And super permanent marker.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,484 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    and the ridiculous lack of talent in boyband members...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,853 ✭✭✭Yoda


    Stark suggested that death was permanent. Not from a Buddhist perspective. Winter is followed by spring. True, the aggregates which make the personality with which you identify will not last; nor will your body remain undecaying. But even worms and bacteria grow in that decay. Even the rot is impermanent.

    You're going to find that a great many of the truths we cling to depend very much on our own point of view. ;)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13 GothicChick


    Life is but a Dream.
    Death is Just Dreaming in Silence.





    Id say prevention of death will be possible in the next 30 years.
    Given the spped with which we have advanced in the last 30 years.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭Johnny Versace


    Originally posted by GothicChick
    Id say prevention of death will be possible in the next 30 years.

    I take it you didn't do biology for your leaving cert?

    :D Only joking.

    If they managed to find a "cure" for death, we'd all be furked.

    This reminds me of a story -

    http://www.eunuch.org/Alpha/D/newea_572115David's_.htm

    Warning... contains strange strange text...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 425 ✭✭StephenInsane


    Man death would suck. No more fun and laughs ever again. Would suck bad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,192 ✭✭✭Dathai


    Death is the most wonderful thing of all.Mainly because it causes no problems,no pain/suffering.
    However with life you are causing pain and suffering from the last day of your stay in the womb..
    Nobody chose to be born so death is our gift,life is our punishment for being born.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,267 ✭✭✭Exit


    Originally posted by Dathai
    Death is the most wonderful thing of all.Mainly because it causes no problems,no pain/suffering.
    However with life you are causing pain and suffering from the last day of your stay in the womb..
    Nobody chose to be born so death is our gift,life is our punishment for being born.

    You must be a barrel of laughs when out on the piss.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 750 ✭✭✭Bungalow Bill


    Originally posted by Exit
    You must be a barrel of laughs when out on the piss.


    Ouch exit, that was good!

    But yeah, I see a certain attaining of purity in death but at the same time fear it. I by no means am glad if someone I know has died because I don't know what has happened to them, ie I do believe something happens, I don't know what and am yet to fully constrain myself to any one belief system but I don't think that this is it.

    I think that everyone needs to be spiritual at some level.


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