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tikkoie

hi
im studing for my finals at the minute and trying to find a suitable job have tried most web sites ,grad pages but cant seem to come across anything

just wondering how long it took ppl to find a job that suits them

Dont Ban Me

You dont!!

Rabies

Trial and error is suppose. Apply for loads of jobs. Go to the interviews. If you get hired and realise you don't like it then start all over again. You mightn't find the job you want/like first time around.

Sleipnir

Or you'll end up moving from one unfulfilling job to another and descend into a spiral of alcohol abuse and self-loathing.



Sunshine, lollipops and....rainbows.......!

leeroybrown

(I presume this will be swiftly moved to Work)

What are you doing in college?

I work in the IT sector and after college it took me over a year and a half to get a job (part postgrad search, part economic, part laziness).

If you have a reasonable idea what kind of area you want to work in based on the time spend your degree then look for a job in that area to give you the necessary experience. Then you should be able to find a more specific type of role that will suit you.

Have you tried Grad ireland. I found their mailing list an excellent way to get information about what graduate/milkround jobs are going.

Or you'll end up moving from one unfulfilling job to another

Or alternatively:

You'll end stuck in the same unfulfilling job, imprisoned by a meagre pay cheque and apathy ...

and descend into a spiral of alcohol abuse and self-loathing.

Hmmm, the future seems bright.

ixoy

Originally posted by tikkoie
just wondering how long it took ppl to find a job that suits them

Still haven't, 2.5 years along. Fcuking economy. Sending mail after mail never to even get an acknowledgement. I got two interviews in the whole damned time and didn't hear back from one. I eventually took the job I could, not in the field I wanted but it was as good as I could get. Never managed to get out, caught in a spiral of dimininshing knowledge and inexperience.

But maybe you'll have more luck :dunno:

Monty - the one and only

moved to work

vibe666

what you do is go out and get 'a' job, and while you're sitting there, you find a decent job and go from there. if you're lucky, 2 or 3 jobs down the line you'll have something you like.

if you're not you'll wake up one morning and you'll be 50, still in the same job you started in and wondering why you bothered getting a degree at all.

leeroybrown

I generally found recruitment sites to be a bad place to look for graduate jobs. Most companies who are specifically looking to recruit grads will target them by going to careers fairs, using graduate specific recruitment sites, etc. The normal recruitment sites tend to have roles emphasising experience so you won't reach interview stage unless you're coming from a job not college.

Also, graduate recruitement tends to follow very definite patterns and is biased towards people actively looking for a job in september and october of final year. As an unemployed graduate I found that to get on most compaines graduate programmes I would have had to apply now, wait 2 months for interview and then another 3 or 4 months to start with no flexibility. Most employers were organising one large block of graduate interviews over the course of a few weeks and taking their entire years graduate group from that. Financially and organisationally it makes sense but it can be a real pain in the ass when you get caught out of cycle with it.

alleepally

"Sending mail after mail never to even get an acknowledgement"

That is an all too familiar experience. Shame on companies to not even acknowledge an email

Here's a good one for you. I left a rather well paid IT job some time ago and set up my own business. Now it's slow and building but I applied for a job locally in a computer store in the retail end of things. I have over 10 years IT experience and basically this job looked ideal in that I could work part time and continue building my business and have some cash coming in. I didn't even get a reply from the company. They are a small operation in a small town and quite honestly I can't imagine they would be over-run with applications and I highly doubt they would find anyone better to do the job than I could.

It's been about two weeks but I'm going to give them the benefit of a few more days and I'm going to pay them a visit and see what they have to say about not even replying to me.

I got CV's from people all the time in my own business and even though I'm not recruiting I always reply and wish the person well in their job search. Apart from anything else, I'm savvy enough to know that the person applying for a job could also be a customer of mine so it pays to be courteous to people at all times.

eth0_

Originally posted by alleepally

It's been about two weeks but I'm going to give them the benefit of a few more days and I'm going to pay them a visit and see what they have to say about not even replying to me.

haha, i'd like to see the look on their faces
I'm job hunting at the moment and I can't believe the cowboys who are calling themselves recruitment agencies! From stelfox, who seem to rip off the people they employ left, right and centre, to Hays IT, who set me up with an interview on Tuesday just gone, now bear in mind they rang me a few times before to prepare me for the interview, which I found very refreshing, and they rang me after my interview to see how i'd got on (I thought it went well, and i'm certain I passed the tech test I did), and asked me to forward some references in case the company wanted to employ me, which I duly did. I was supposed to hear if i'd got the job or not the next day as the job was starting the day after....NOT A WORD. I've emailed twice, got read receipts, but no reply! What is their f*cking problem? Why is picking up the phone and telling someone the outcome such a chore for them? I can imagine some jobseekers would get incredibly depressed with this sort of treatment!

alleepally

As someone on the inside who has dealt with agencies in a big IT organisation I wouldn't necessarily blame the recruitment agencies (who I detest with a passion). Quite often once you've had your interview, the company who are doing the hiring can sometimes take longer to come back and the recruitment agency is as much in the dark as you are even if the job was to be filled by a certain date. That doesn't excuse them not sending you a reply. After all, if you get recruited they get paid.

Having said that, the fact you have not heard anything might actually be a good thing. I know from when I did interviews if I felt someone wasn't suitable I would indicate that to the agency within an hour of completing the interview. If someone was a good possibility I'd be waiting for other agencies to send in their candidates etc. which resulted in a longer decision time.

I remember when I was first out into the market, my experience of agencies was very poor. I remember one agency in particular and the guy there couldn't have been more unpleasant. He looked at my CV with contempt and even had the ignorance to comment that because I didn't play sports I wasn't a team player! He ignored the fact that I was involved in music and didn't see that if you were in a band or whatever that there is teamwork involved there. Total d**k head. Rugby playing twat no doubt.

Just keep plugging away and don't let it grind you down.

eth0_

Originally posted by alleepally


Just keep plugging away and don't let it grind you down.

Thanks. They did say they'd let me know either way the next day, either way it's polite to let the person know and keep them updated, whether they've had a decision from the employer or not

thetis

Keep the faith. I came out of college the end of last May having decided to get reasonable finals rather than spend most of three or four months trying to find a job. Went on hols straight after my last exam and came home to realise that I was going to be financially scre*ed unless I got some form of job, and pdq. Decided that I really didn't care what I did for a year (thought I'd do the milk round this year) as long as I had some form of income. Hit nixers.com on a Thursday, got a phonecall on Friday, interview on the Monday, medical on the following Friday (family live far from Dublin and they wanted my regular GP), and started work the Monday after I got my results. I love what I'm doing now and don't think I'll ever change from the industry. It's an industry I'd never have thought of and sheer luck really, but it happens that way sometimes. Just keep trying

emertoff

It's very difficult. Quite often I think a degree of any sort can be even disadvantageous these days. With the amount of graduates pouring out every year, there simply cannot be graduate-level jobs for everyone. Despite the boom of recent years, we are still a relatively small economy and in the last year or two it's definately become an employers market once again.

Don't talk to me about recruitment agencies. I signed up with two and the best I have got from them is a glib response saying they don't have anything suitable for me at the moment but will continue to "actively investigate opportunities on my behalf" That was 5 months ago. I think they must have some quota to meet about the number of CV's they have on file in order to impress clients or something. Anyway I sent one of them a smart-alec e-mail about giving misleading information on their website (said a recruitment 'consultant' would call me for a detailed discussion on my career plans when they have never returned any of my calls) so I requested my Cv be purged from their systems 'in compliance with Data Protection Legislation'. Always quote the law, it frightens them.:D These agencies are generally only interested in experienced professionals from what I can see and although they will accpet recent graduates on their books, no friend of mine has ever got a job through them.

Websites are more or less the same. You complete their questionnaire as to what jobs you are interested in and they send you a mail about teaching street kids in Hanoi FFS! Most of the jobs I would be unqualified for.

Like in the good old days, the newspapers and worth of mouth is the best thing. And always follow up with a phone call when you get no acknowledgement. I usually find they send one then and it makes me feel a little better that I demanded some respect for my application. And a formal rejection letter can come in very handy down the welfare.:D

ando

Originally posted by eth0_
they rang me a few times before to prepare me for the interview, which I found very refreshing, and they rang me after my interview to see how i'd got on (I thought it went well, and i'm certain I passed the tech test I did), and asked me to forward some references in case the company wanted to employ me, which I duly did. I was supposed to hear if i'd got the job or not the next day as the job was starting the day after....NOT A WORD. I've emailed twice, got read receipts, but no reply! What is their f*cking problem? Why is picking up the phone and telling someone the outcome such a chore for them? I can imagine some jobseekers would get incredibly depressed with this sort of treatment!

Etho that happened to me a few times, very similar experiences infact. The recruitment agency would call me a few times before hand to organize and prepare myself for the interview. On a few occasions I actually went to see the person in the agency on 'their' request. Once the interview was over, they would ring me to see how I got on! That’s it, nothing more. I would normally send an email or two to see how I got on, or if there was any info from x company, but nothing, no reply. You'd think they would have the common courtesy. I'd end up ringing the x company to see what went wrong with my interview, so as to learn what I could do in future.

I tend to ignore the agencies now if they ring me