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the bible = the tree of the knowledge of good and evil () Jesus = the tree of life

  • 22-03-2004 9:17pm
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    The bible

    It is a book containing the knowledge of good and evil.

    The forbidden fruit was not an apple. The fruit of a tree is also paper. And upon the pages of the bible is the knowledge of good and evil. The bible is poisoned with the knowledge of evil.

    Ritualistic animal sacrifices, ceremonies incorporating the blood of dead animals, superstitious numbers, curses, evil spirits, dark prophecies... all in the bible.

    Plotting, conspiracy, mass-murder, betrayal, genocide, slavery, suffering, wars... all in the bible.

    A book is not 'Holy' if it contains the knowledge of evil, Satan, the devil, demons...

    It is darkness. It is contaminated. It is unclean. It is poison.

    Religion is the church of the poison mind. Minds poisoned by the knowledge of evil. People are deceived by religion.

    The kingdom of God is within us all. Not within the pages of a book containing the knowledge of evil. I have recently shut it for good. I will not touch, nor taste of it again.

    Because of Jesus Christ, I'm back in the land of the living. I've torn off my fig-leaf, and am returning to Eden. I am who God made me to be. The shame, guilt, and confusion is past-tense.

    Thank You Jesus.

    The Tree of Life = Jesus Christ

    Eat freely from this tree and be saved.




    "Imagine" - John Lennon

    Imagine there's no heaven,
    It's easy if you try,
    No hell below us,
    Above us only sky,
    Imagine all the people
    living for today...

    Imagine there's no countries,
    It isnt hard to do,
    Nothing to kill or die for,
    No religion too,
    Imagine all the people
    living life in peace...

    Imagine no possesions,
    I wonder if you can,
    No need for greed or hunger,
    A brotherhood of man,
    Imagine all the people
    Sharing all the world...

    You may say I'm a dreamer,
    but I'm not the only one,
    I hope some day you'll join us,
    And the world will live as one.


    Jesus is the answer!

    Michael111


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,524 ✭✭✭✭Gordon


    There's a funny story in the bible about some guy being told to retrieve a hundred foreskins and only then could he date the king's daughter.
    Originally posted by Michael111

    I will not touch, nor taste of it [the bible] again.
    Did you tend to lick your bible?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭flogen


    I've torn off my fig-leaf, and am returning to Eden

    cover up ya damn nudie...... this is a family place :p

    Flogen


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold


    The Bible - An Erotic Novel


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 354 ✭✭Commissar


    Originally posted by Michael111


    Thank You Jesus.

    No prob, buddy. I.m just glad to help;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,276 ✭✭✭Memnoch


    I've found heaven....



















    and its between my girlfriend's breasts


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 50 ✭✭Seamie


    Originally posted by Michael111


    Ritualistic animal sacrifices, ceremonies incorporating the blood of dead animals, superstitious numbers, curses, evil spirits, dark prophecies... all in the bible.

    Plotting, conspiracy, mass-murder, betrayal, genocide, slavery, suffering, wars... all in the bible.

    Sounds to me like it should be made into a movie. Possibly with Arnie, or Steve Guttenberg...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,467 ✭✭✭smemon


    has anyone actually ever read the entire bible?!

    imagine typing all of that out, which someone must have done at some stage in order for it to be printed. it's send ya mad.

    all the metaphors and stories that could mean absolutely anything.

    ive always wondered if anyone is actually any wiser after reading the bible. what do people learn from it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,312 ✭✭✭mr_angry


    See no evil, hear no evil? Thats a saying for a reason, you know.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,107 ✭✭✭TheSonOfBattles


    Originally posted by smemon
    what do people learn from it?

    Prolly that God was/is senile when he wrote it. He invented language, yet he can't get his point across without killing 1 forest for each book for each person who's going to read his idea's.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,567 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Supprised that the Bible wasn't banned, there is a Lot of sex & violence.
    eg: After his wife had been turned to salt, Lot's daughters got him father drunk cos they reckoned that the three of them were the last ones alive on the face of the earth. And speaking of Sodomon and Gomoro (SP) wasn't that the root of the word sodomy ?

    So MickyPhalicSymbols has just wipped off his fig leaf and wants to eat from the tree of life.. :eek:

    Sorry bud but moronic over-generalisations do not make for a valid argument. (Jesus / God / Devil / Heaven / Hell - it's a package deal, you can't pick and choose, because without the others there is no context.)

    Hey lets burn the history books too - because they say bad things happen to good people.

    Anyway people keep coming up with new translations of phrases from the bible so the meaning can change. Especially if you don't go for the most extreme meaning of a word but for the most normal one then many stories and characters actually seem plausible.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,807 ✭✭✭Badly Drunk Boy


    Check this out if you're into seeing an illustrated version of the Bible.

    http://www.thebricktestament.com/

    Be warned though!!! I shows a lot of the evil debauchery and violence that Michael111 mentioned above. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,783 ✭✭✭Puck


    Originally posted by Michael111

    Jesus is the answer!

    Michael111

    Pfft! Everyone know it's 42.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,567 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    ROFL
    Gn 19:30-36
    http://www.thebricktestament.com/genesis/the_seduction_of_lot/gn19_31-32.html

    BTW:
    42 Base 10 = 110 Base 6
    42 Base 27 = 110 Base 10

    So who is the one missing from your life ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,419 ✭✭✭nadir


    wtf

    :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,236 ✭✭✭AL][EN


    OMFG!!! the Jehovah witnesses have found there way onto boards!! sweet mother of god is no place safe anymore???:confused: :dunno: :eek: :eek:

    maybe this one should be moved over to the christiainty form? doubt after hours is the place for this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,892 ✭✭✭bizmark


    Originally posted by nadir
    wtf

    :o

    I second that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,258 ✭✭✭✭Rabies


    I will not touch, nor taste of it again.
    I find it tastes better when I use just a little bit of salt when tasting the Old Testament and pepper when I take a nibble out of Genesis. You should try it.
    Can not wait until I try a Gospel or two with some of the new dips that ya can get with Pringles.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,924 ✭✭✭✭BuffyBot


    Ritualistic animal sacrifices, ceremonies incorporating the blood of dead animals, superstitious numbers, curses, evil spirits, dark prophecies... all in the bible.
    ...and the new Stephen King novel, out now! Available at your local Easons for just €9.99!


  • Site Banned Posts: 197 ✭✭Wolfie


    Originally posted by TheSonOfBattles
    Prolly that God was/is senile when he wrote it. He invented language, yet he can't get his point across without killing 1 forest for each book for each person who's going to read his idea's.

    Hmm.. so God, the alleged supreme being who created the universe as we know it, actually took the time to put pen to paper and write the bible himself. Amazing the things you learn here! He also invented language, and presumably taught all of the different peoples of earth how to speak and write in the various languages that were developed... And originally the bible pages were clay tablets.. and I believe that man came up with the idea of paper, and thus cutting down trees to make the said paper.... And _you_ question the working of God's mind???


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,107 ✭✭✭TheSonOfBattles


    Originally posted by Wolfie
    Hmm.. so God, the alleged supreme being who created the universe as we know it, actually took the time to put pen to paper and write the bible himself. Amazing the things you learn here! He also invented language, and presumably taught all of the different peoples of earth how to speak and write in the various languages that were developed... And originally the bible pages were clay tablets.. and I believe that man came up with the idea of paper, and thus cutting down trees to make the said paper.... And _you_ question the working of God's mind???

    God created man, and is Divine, therefor everything we do is just part of his plan as I understand christianity. Therefor anything we create, was just part of God's plan. So yes, he invented language, papyrus, clay and wrote the bible. God is obviously senile if he creates something that muddled and rambling tbh.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭][cEMAN**


    Can I remind you all of "FREE WILL"

    So WILL you all please stop talking such nonsense so FREELY

    BTW for all you bible bashers - the old testament was about "Kill for me - wage the holy wars" and the new testament is "Turn the other cheek" and "Love they neighbour". So if these books are true representation of god's will and god is infalable, why did he suddenly change his mind at half time?

    As fictional as it sounds I personally like the idea of the ending of Stigmata.


  • Site Banned Posts: 197 ✭✭Wolfie


    Originally posted by TheSonOfBattles
    God created man, and is Divine, therefor everything we do is just part of his plan as I understand christianity. Therefor anything we create, was just part of God's plan. So yes, he invented language, papyrus, clay and wrote the bible. God is obviously senile if he creates something that muddled and rambling tbh.

    To answer your conundrum, read Icemans post. Free will my man. God created the universe. God lets us do as we please on the universe. We mess it up. Otherwise you are saying that God invented paedophilia, murder and all the other fun human stuff. I dont know if God is out there or not, I sure hope so, otherwise we are insignificant blobs 'existing' in a fluke universe, born from chaos. That seems a bit pointless really... and would prove to be an immense disappointment after I die! :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,107 ✭✭✭TheSonOfBattles


    Out of interest, when did I say I believe all the bull**** written in the bible? 'Cause I don't, i'm not part of any major religion, or minor one for that matter. Nor am I athiest. I'm my own beliefs, and everyone else can keep theres, I just reckon the bible is a load of crap, and I was writing what I wrote to illustrate that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭Dustaz


    Originally posted by Wolfie
    I dont know if God is out there or not, I sure hope so, otherwise we are insignificant blobs 'existing' in a fluke universe, born from chaos.


    Ive never understood why the holy joes seem to have such a problem with this. We are just sacks of mostly water in a fluke universe. God didnt 'invent' us. We evolved.


    Can we ban the original guy for spamming his wares please?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,174 ✭✭✭D


    If God has been around forever, what did he do before he created earth?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,258 ✭✭✭✭Rabies


    Originally posted by Wolfie
    otherwise we are insignificant blobs 'existing' in a fluke universe, born from chaos.
    Well that is what i think :dunno:
    If God has been around forever, what did he do before he created earth?
    Spent weekends on Mars and summers in the Sun.....
    :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,233 ✭✭✭Dont Ban Me


    Originally posted by smemon
    imagine typing all of that out, which someone must have done at some stage in order for it to be printed. it's send ya mad.

    I dont think any one person has wrote / typed it all out! There is kinda to much there, well except maybe Guttenburg he might have done it all when he first printed it??


    And everyone knows God was on holidays before he created earth!! :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,467 ✭✭✭smemon


    if god exists, who created god???

    you cant just create yourself out of nothing! and who created the thing that created god and so on......

    it just doesnt make sense, the whole bible is like all the stories ever thought of put into one big boring book with font size 6 writing, no pictures and millions of pages.

    why couldnt it be wrote in plain english, and why did jesus and all holy dudes answer questions with questions when a simple yes or no would do??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,258 ✭✭✭✭Rabies


    Originally posted by smemon
    if god exists, who created god???
    Sit down for a sec.. this might come as a bit of a shock to you, but.... When a man loves a woman, things happen .... .... 9 monthys later you have God...

    or

    maybe there is no god and everything was created by chance :eek:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,233 ✭✭✭Dont Ban Me


    Or maybe god was a mad scientist working in a lab and by some fluke he spilt chemicals and they mixed and taa daa!! We were created, then he died and millions of ions later we formed as mold on his desk! And too this day we are still mold on the desk of a dead old scientist and no one knows we exist at all!!!

    Magic!! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,258 ✭✭✭✭Rabies


    Originally posted by Dont Ban Me
    We were created, then he died and millions of ions later we formed as mold on his desk!
    I presume you mean 'eons' later not 'ions' later.... :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,233 ✭✭✭Dont Ban Me


    You got the idea oh masterful snot!! :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭][cEMAN**


    Originally posted by smemon
    if god exists, who created god???

    you cant just create yourself out of nothing! and who created the thing that created god and so on......

    it just doesnt make sense, the whole bible is like all the stories ever thought of put into one big boring book with font size 6 writing, no pictures and millions of pages.

    I find the best way to deal with these questions is either to not ask, or realise that true knowledge comes from knowing you know nothing.

    Who says you truely comprehend time in it's true form. Who says time is linear and that it's not just that we perceive it as such? There doesn't always have to be a beginning middle and end. I take it you're one of these people who believe they can fly so far in 1 direction and reach the end of the universe (years ago they thought they would fall off the end of the earth if they sailed too far)
    Originally posted by smemon
    Why couldnt it be wrote in plain english, and why did jesus and all holy dudes answer questions with questions when a simple yes or no would do??

    Because maybe he forsaw lawyers and realised that if everything was a yes/no situation we could all get into heaven on a technicality :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,622 ✭✭✭Catsmokinpot


    how about the idea that things are and have always been

    i believe that their has always been the same amount of matter in the universe, matter just can be created out of nothing, this matter reacts and the reactions by chance led to the creation of us.

    i dont believe in god but, i believe that their is some devine purpose for our existance, our purpose is that if we didnt exist, what would be the point of anything? of the universe? of any sort of reality? because if their was no life to witness it, the universe would not exist.

    the reason it would not exist is because, if life didnt exist who would be there to witness it the universe and prove that it is there?

    also
    Anyway people keep coming up with new translations of phrases from the bible so the meaning can change. Especially if you don't go for the most extreme meaning of a word but for the most normal one then many stories and characters actually seem plausible.

    i personally dont believe that religion is to blame for anything all of you athiests out there and the thick egit there that has started this thread have got it completely wrong. its not religion that is to blame.

    it is peoples interpretation that is to blame. all religions carry a message, to be tolerant of one another be kind, be good, be honest, do not try to hurt one another.

    ie. be tolerant of other peoples cultures abd beliefs

    but people just cant leave it alone they have to believe that they are more special than everyone else, thats where it goes wrong.

    money and power has alot to do with this. people with more money and power, think they are more special than everyone else. well they arent! they are a grain of sand in a never ending beach which is the universe if that grain was to disappear it would make no difference to the beach. its a very cold fact.

    life in general is special. dont try to live by a set of rules that someone else interpreted for you. if you believe in the bible or any holy text read it for yourself. and dont believe any part of it that says you are special because you alone are not special, so you have no right to judge other people on their beliefs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,174 ✭✭✭D


    Actually at the moment of the big bang or a few nanoseconds later 90% of matter was destroyed what we know as the universe is just 10% percent of mater that existed before the big bang. As with reference to time, it doesn't actually exist. It is just a concept created by humans so that they can comprehend and reference the changing universe.


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  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 729 ✭✭✭popinfresh


    There is no evidence to disprove the existance of a god, there is however evidence that disproves peoples perception of god..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,622 ✭✭✭Catsmokinpot


    the point i was making was that matter cannot be created out of nothing, it has always been there, along with energy.

    if matter is created out of anything it is energy, the matter that is in the universe has always been around even the matter that was destroyed was turned in to energy which is a constant, always around.

    of course time doesnt exist.... time is our word for a measurement of what is actually happening. as other languages have their own words tiempo, taim etc. but what is actually happening does exist or else we wouldnt be discussing this now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,174 ✭✭✭D


    I suppose you're right, strictly speaking Einstein stated that energy is just another form off energy. Does anyone think that this has gone off topic?

    Anyway back to the topic, or at least closer to it, Does anyone feel that God didn't create man in his image but man envisioned God in man's appearance. (Although I'm sure most ladies will point out the obvious, that God is in fact a women.)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 489 ✭✭Faust


    What is the topic of this thread anyway?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,487 ✭✭✭banquo


    jesus is naff.

    you want drugs and hookers; some classy broads'll show ya the way to paradise*



















    if being married at a dumpster is your idea of paradise.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,174 ✭✭✭D


    The topic is that organised religion, ruins and belittles peoples spirituality and the true message of religion


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,622 ✭✭✭Catsmokinpot


    Originally posted by D
    I suppose you're right, strictly speaking Einstein stated that energy is just another form off energy. Does anyone think that this has gone off topic?

    Anyway back to the topic, or at least closer to it, Does anyone feel that God didn't create man in his image but man envisioned God in man's appearance. (Although I'm sure most ladies will point out the obvious, that God is in fact a women.)
    indeed since we have never seen god, have no proof that he exists, and have no proof that he doesnt exist, therefore if we believe in him we have to asume that he looks like something and because we cant imagine what he looks like we give him a human look


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭][cEMAN**


    Originally posted by D
    Anyway back to the topic, or at least closer to it, Does anyone feel that God didn't create man in his image but man envisioned God in man's appearance. (Although I'm sure most ladies will point out the obvious, that God is in fact a women.)

    I doubt that somehow. If god was a woman and made us in 'her' image, surely 'she' would have made it so that women didn't look big in this. Thus cutting down valuable time wasted on arguments with men answering incorrectly (every answer is wrong - when you hear the question just run....run for your life!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,174 ✭✭✭D


    I wasn't going to say it, I'm just surprised no one else has.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,276 ✭✭✭Memnoch


    Originally posted by TheSonOfBattles
    God created man, and is Divine, therefor everything we do is just part of his plan as I understand christianity. Therefor anything we create, was just part of God's plan. So yes, he invented language, papyrus, clay and wrote the bible. God is obviously senile if he creates something that muddled and rambling tbh.

    so god created dildo's too? Are dildo's allowed in heaven?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,467 ✭✭✭smemon


    if you think about it, god is the cause of all war, hatred and evil.

    Celtic-Rangers....... thats all about religion.

    israel-palestine....... religion

    ireland-northern ireland..............religion


    if there were no religion, there would be not half as much trouble and chaos in the world, thats what i think. plus if god 'loves' us, why does he kill us so harshly- being bombed, hanged, drowned, shot........

    people believe in god because there afraid of dying and if he does exist, at least he'll look after them for believing in him. if there were eternal life, very few people would go to mass...pray......become nuns and priests.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,622 ✭✭✭Catsmokinpot


    Originally posted by smemon
    if you think about it, god is the cause of all war, hatred and evil.

    Celtic-Rangers....... thats all about religion.

    israel-palestine....... religion

    ireland-northern ireland..............religion


    if there were no religion, there would be not half as much trouble and chaos in the world, thats what i think. plus if god 'loves' us, why does he kill us so harshly- being bombed, hanged, drowned, shot........

    people believe in god because there afraid of dying and if he does exist, at least he'll look after them for believing in him. if there were eternal life, very few people would go to mass...pray......become nuns and priests.
    sorry dude you are completely wrong, the belief in god and the existence of religion are not to blame, personally i dont believe in the bible or any religious texts but i dont nock them, its mans interpretation of religious texts and the belief that he is special that causes wars, dont try and blame it on words or beliefs its our own fault


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