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For teh grammer nazis

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,669 ✭✭✭DMT


    How about "ad-ver-tise-ment" instead of "ad-vert-ise-ment", that one pisses me off.
    Not as bad as Pat Spillane's "ad-ver-tizz-ment"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold


    Thats so damn stupid it makes me cry a little on the inside. The pavvys who mispronounce those words will never be able to read it anyway. FFS who speaks like that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,190 ✭✭✭UnrealQueen


    Heineken remover Heimlich maneuver HA HA HA


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭Sleipnir


    Originally posted by DMT
    "ad-ver-tizz-ment"


    oh jesus when I hear that I want to feckin' throw something at the offender.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭Sleipnir


    One I always hear mis-pronounced is "Safety"

    That micky-joe Hart eejit does the "Water Safety" adds on the T.V. and he pronounces it
    safe-ity

    when it should
    safe-tea

    It makes me grind my teeth when that ad comes on.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,816 ✭✭✭Calibos


    3/4 of the people who buy rubbish bags in my shop ask for refuge bags instead of refuse bags. I mean, I expect skangers to ask for crips rather than crisps but when a be-suited gent asks for a financial times and a refuge bag, it just boggles my mind! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭Johnny Versace




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,608 ✭✭✭✭sceptre


    Originally posted by echomadman
    and from the same site, a list of most commnly misspelled words.

    http://www.yourdictionary.com/library/misspelled.html
    Hmmm, "grammar" isn't listed.

    Nor does it hammer home that "alright" isn't a real word, "on to" is not one word like "into" and so on.

    Someone should really dedicate an entire page to the difference between "its" and "it's". And maybe an extra bit about not adding an apostrophe for every plural. The latter actually makes me angry at the school system and the people who sleep through it. No really, I'm not kidding. Anyone can make an error (typo or spelling) or even a series of errors - the ones that annoy me the most are where errors are repeatedly made where people think they're avoiding an error that doesn't exist (especially with "me" and "I" - I cringe every time I hear the first part of "Run To You" by Bryan Adams). Perhaps I'll write my own page.

    Nice links echomadman and Johnny V.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,441 ✭✭✭The_Goose


    Sur isnt it to b expected that slang be used, the weird thing is ye actually care enough about the language to be angered by its missus use!!!

    Aslong as you speak it properly is all that should matter to you!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold


    You know what really annoys me when I'm reading? When they use 'an' instead of 'a' infront of a word beginning with 'h'. The H isn't silent you know...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,726 ✭✭✭quank


    omg!
    i feel like a complete idiot!

    i've been spelling it wierd all the time!!!!


    :(
    why didn't anybody say anything!?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold


    If we pointed out all your faults...........


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,726 ✭✭✭quank


    Originally posted by Kold
    If we pointed out all your faults...........


    :eek:
    I'm clinically obese, okay!

    *cries and gorges self in banana cake*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 491 ✭✭Silent Bob


    They are 100% wrong about Duck Tape


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold


    OMG DIE!


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,001 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    Originally posted by sceptre
    Someone should really dedicate an entire page to the difference between "its" and "it's". And maybe an extra bit about not adding an apostrophe for every plural. The latter actually makes me angry at the school system and the people who sleep through it.
    How do you cope with the World Wide Web? I like to grind my teeth together and think dark thoughts when I come upon certain posts (and posters...).

    I cringe every time I hear the first part of "Run To You" by Bryan Adams). Perhaps I'll write my own page.
    Is this the lyric that offends you:

    But that'd change if she ever found out about you and I

    ? Lyrically, I imagine he thought using "me" twice wouldn't sound great. Many (myself included, at times) have gotten the subject/object verb agreement wrong. I still think its criminal to mix "its" and "it's" (and yes, I make the mistake here knowingly).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold


    Bryan Adams makes me cringe


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 80 ✭✭Araniell


    Dissect pronounced to rhyme with bisect always gets to me. The second 's' is there for a reason

    Another killer is 'ironical' I came accross this in a philosophy textbook lately. *Shudder*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,608 ✭✭✭✭sceptre


    Originally posted by ixoy
    Is this the lyric that offends you:

    But that'd change if she ever found out about you and I

    ? Lyrically, I imagine he thought using "me" twice wouldn't sound great. Many (myself included, at times) have gotten the subject/object verb agreement wrong. I still think its criminal to mix "its" and "it's" (and yes, I make the mistake here knowingly).
    That's the very one. I get a cold shiver every time I hear it (I suppose "me" wouldn't rhyme with "die" but damn him to hell anyway).

    Like you say, we're all guilty of making mistakes from time to time (or even often). The "I" and "me" thing is relatively easy most of the time - if you can replace it with "we" then it's I, if you can replace it with "us" then it's "me". No need to mess around with considering whether something is a subject or an object. I don't mind people saying "me" all the time to be honest - while it's not ideal, I regard actually making the effort to avoid a grammatical mistake and then getting it totally arseways as a result as worse. I probably only use "whom" about 10% of the time where it's warranted (but that's OK as hardly anyone uses it any more anyway - again I cringe where I hear people using "whom" wrongly, presumaby because it makes them feel smarter).

    Same category as "where can I buy some camera's", though this is just a mistake that (sadly many) people make. I've seen commas put in instead of apostrophes as well. No punctuation is worse than wrong punctuation. Plenty of people with reading difficulties make this mistake so I'm very forgiving of it. It's the "I" and "me" thing that really gets on my wick.

    I've never (to my knowledge) criticised anyone for bad spelling - some people do have difficulty with it and that's fair enough. Text speak on the internet is plain evil though - it's bad enough on phones.

    Jebus, I sound like an intolerant cnut. I'm not really, honest - I've been lucky in that my spelling and grammar have generally been good. It's not errors that gall me - it's hypercorrections. They're the devil's spawn.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,746 ✭✭✭0utshined


    Another killer is 'ironical' I came accross this in a philosophy textbook lately. *Shudder*

    Ironical is a perfectly cromulent word.


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,563 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Oh, I'm sorry, sir. I'm anispeptic, frasmotic, even compunctuous to have caused you such pericombobulation. :D

    http://blackadder.powertie.org/transcripts/3/2/


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,001 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    Originally posted by sceptre
    Jebus, I sound like an intolerant cnut. I'm not really, honest - I've been lucky in that my spelling and grammar have generally been good. It's not errors that gall me - it's hypercorrections. They're the devil's spawn.
    No that's not the worst. The worst is mixing up "your" and "you're" when you're just not thinking about your posts :) Honestly, it's really very simple and seeing it constantly wrong (and consistently with some posters) makes ixoy a tense boards user at times.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭Sleipnir


    Originally posted by Araniell
    Another killer is 'ironical' I came accross this in a philosophy textbook lately. *Shudder*


    3 entries found for ironical.
    i·ron·ic ( P ) Pronunciation Key (-rnk) also i·ron·i·cal (-rn-kl)
    adj.
    Characterized by or constituting irony.
    Given to the use of irony. See Synonyms at sarcastic.
    Poignantly contrary to what was expected or intended: madness, an ironic fate for such a clear thinker.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭chabsey


    One of the more common ones you'll see on here and other website is something like the following:


    "I could of killed him"




    That annoys me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 195 ✭✭evie


    "millin"
    That's how a religion teacher in my secondary school pronounced Million. The "I" is NOT silent.
    It was the same with William ->"Willem"
    Again, the "i" is NOT silent - grrrrr


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 329 ✭✭Walter Ego


    I don't want to be picky but.....


    The thread title is mis-spelled.

    :D:D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,396 ✭✭✭✭Karoma


    That Silent Death why, he's as clever as a stick in a bucket of pig swill


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,543 ✭✭✭Pataman


    Am I the only one who dislikes, nay even frothes at the mouth, when I hear " I seen it" or " I done it". This habit drives me mad. How can you take a person seriously when they cant even speak properly..... calming down now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,396 ✭✭✭✭Karoma


    i can let most things go; but that sorta **** gets me. it's basic grammar! that and i will be a prick and correct people with to/too/two... if they fail to grasp the basics = they deserve it + a punch.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Originally posted by Karoma
    i can let most things go; but that sorta **** gets me. it's basic grammar! that and i will be a prick and correct people with to/too/two... if they fail to grasp the basics = they deserve it + a punch.
    I do that a lot. Well, a lot more than I'd like to.

    Comes from thinking about 4 words ahead of what I'm actually typing. I've said this before. It's like there's a litte buffer between my head and my hands, and sometimes if my brane is too busy thinking, my hands will choose the wrong spelling for a word. Funny one that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,396 ✭✭✭✭Karoma


    are ya gonna stop? or can i put sir down on my 'to punch' list? :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,853 ✭✭✭Yoda


    I thought I'd take a moment to remind everyone that the plural of euro is euros and the plural of cent is cents, despite the continued use of the "legislative" s-less plural by our country's idiot broadcasting media.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,001 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    Originally posted by Yoda
    I thought I'd take a moment to remind everyone that the plural of euro is euros and the plural of cent is cents, despite the continued use of the "legislative" s-less plural by our country's idiot broadcasting media.
    You're a grammar nazi, as much as the next person, so can you tell me then when a decision was made on this? I understand the reasoning for the plural of "euro" being, also, "euro" but at what point did we make an exception for ourselves? Or was it decided at a cultural level by popular use? Or by yourself, seeing as to do otherwise would contravene the accepted rules of English?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭RossFixxxed


    Stiff upper lip chaps.

    Croquet it's oquet! Time for scones and muffins what what.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 491 ✭✭Silent Bob


    Originally posted by Yoda
    I thought I'd take a moment to remind everyone that the plural of euro is euros and the plural of cent is cents, despite the continued use of the "legislative" s-less plural by our country's idiot broadcasting media.
    I'd like to point out that you are completely wrong. They were words chosen to suit the entire Euro-zone, most of which used exactly the same word for plural and singular monetary amounts prior to the Euro. And yes, when you invent a word you get to invent its plural too.

    Are you going to insist that we call multiple sheep "sheeps" and multiple deer "deers" because that also makes you feel better?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,853 ✭✭✭Yoda


    (Sighs.)

    There was a piece of EU legislation designed to ensure that the banknotes were uncluttered by lots of plurals (euro, euros, euroa etc.). This piece of legislation was misunderstood by the Irish Department of Finance to mean that "the plural should have no -s", despite the protests of the Commission's translation bureau. It was picked up by the Irish media as "what we're supposed to say" and every honest person in Ireland will remember balking at saying "five euro". Certainly there is no defence for "five cent", and no, it has nothing to do with distiguishing between U.S. and Eurozone cents.

    Nor is there a Greek word meaning 'piss' that sounds like euros. Nor any of the other urban myths that people made up in order to convince themselves that the normal plural which 99% of English words use should be ignored for these terms. No, Silent Bob, I don't advocate changing the plural of sheep – just as I don't advocate changing the plural of cent. The plural of peso was and is pesos. Normal linguistic analogy: The plural of euro is euros. All the rest is just "excuses" people use to convince themselves that it isn't stupid and unnatural to use the s-less plurals.

    To summarize:

    1. The EU Commission's translation section recommends the use of the s-less plurals only in legislation, where it was mistakenly enshrined, and recommends "the natural plurals in -s" in all other material, particularly anything aimed at the general public. That, friends, is the "official" rule.

    2. France, Spain, and Portugal all regularly and consistently use the plural euros; they pluralize centimes, céntimos, cêntimos when the "offical" cents isn't used. Why aren't we? (Because the Irish government made a mistake and RTÉ et al. perpetuate the mistake.)

    3. The rest of the English-speaking world says euros and cents and is likely to continue to do so.

    It was a mistake, and an unnecessary one.

    That's my two cents. (Which should be written 2¢ by the way, not 2c, since that is read "two cee".)

    Further information and documentation can be found here.


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