Croke Park when its finished

thesecret7

Can someone describe or post a pic of what Croke park will look like when they finsih construction. Will the stadium still be a U type shape or will the roof go all the way around?

Villain

Rant/
It will look like an empty space most of the time which is only for the non democtaric organistaion of the GAA.
/Rant

thesecret7

Thanks irish 1 ! (im sure they will open it sooner or later)

Its a pity that they are going to leave it looking like a horse shoe ! I thought they were going to put a roof all the way around..look kinda incomplete

Villain

Originally posted by thesecret7
Thanks irish 1 ! (im sure they will open it sooner or later)

Its a pity that they are going to leave it looking like a horse shoe ! I thought they were going to put a roof all the way around..look kinda incomplete

Well they may, but thats the current plan, well the only one I could find anyway.

thesecret7

maybe its because of engineering reasons that they arent going to compete the full roof. Is it normal for stadia to look like this?? The last section is standing anyway so thats going to cause problems when its opend to other sports

uberwolf

could they not have done a lansdowne on it and built over the train line at the back? given the place a more symetric look. Still fair play to them for getting it looking that good.

Pal

a waste of taxpayers money.

Imposter

Originally posted by Pal
a waste of taxpayers money.

/Yawn
What is? and what does that have to do with how Croker will look when finished?

AFAIK the reasoning behind not building the Hill 16 end like the rest is that the Jackeens:) complained as they wanted the standing section retained.

bennyx_o

From what I heard, the roof isn't goign all the way around because there wasn't enough room to put the full size stand there. Not sure if it's true or not, but it's what i was told.

Johnny_the_fox

Originally posted by thesecret7
Its a pity that they are going to leave it looking like a horse shoe ! I thought they were going to put a roof all the way around..look kinda incomplete

i think it was because of the people that live beside that part of the staduim.. the area would have been in darkness or something...

but recently I think they got the go ahead to put a roof on it... <edit - im wrong!>

link
Hill 16 survives

Dublin City Council have granted planning permission to the GAA to replace Hill 16 with an even bigger and better one. This could see the original hill as a standing terrace retained and accommodate up to 13,000 fans. The council’s planners accepted the GAA’s argument that the open air stand, built on rubble from O’Connell Street after the 1916 rising, was "a great Dublin institution" that deserved to be retained.

Des McMahon of Gilroy McMahon Architects, the designers of the new Croke Park, have welcomed the news and said it recognised the need to provide "low cost accommodation" at the GAA’s premier venue. The new Hill 16, which is estimated to cost in the region of €20m and would be extended to incorporate the Nally stand, would include a full range of amenities and facilities for fans.
The old Hill and the Nally stand would both be demolished and replaced by a new steeper hill with toilet, bar and catering facilities underneath.

The new Hill would also be surrounded by a new digital scoreboard. The latest plan, which may also be appealed to An Bord Pleanala, would increase the capacity of the stadium to 86,500.

The total cost of the redevelopment of Croke Park could top €140m with a total seating capacity of 79,500.
The new stand is 180 metres long, 35 metres high, seats 25,000 and will contain 46 hospitality suites.
The roof of the stadium was designed to fit in with the surrounding area – the slate blue transparency of the curtain walling, which enclose the areas containing the restaurants, bars etc. mirrors the rooftops in the surrounding area.

The corporate seats in the new stand sold out immediately and recouped more than 50% of the cost of construction, despite taking up just 12% of the total capacity.
The design of the roofing will mean that the amount of rain falling into the pitch is reduced by over a third.
Three quarters of the Canal End was built in airspace outside GAA property and extends out over land currently owned by Iarnrod Eireann.

The playing surface is designed so that it can be drained by a vacuum if necessary or heated in freezing temperatures.

The stadium is the first in Europe designed for horizontal rather than vertical segregation, which means it is possible to move all round it at each level rather than from the top to the bottom of the stand.
Three years ago An Bord Pleanalla refused planning permission on appeal for a plan to retain Hill 16, saying it was "not satisfied" that this would not "endanger public health safety", referring to "the trend internationally since the Hillsborough disaster of 1989, towards the provision of all seater stadia" and the Department of Education’s 1996 Code of Practice for Safety at Sports Grounds.

The GAA were at the time "extremely disappointed" at the decision and objected to any analogy with Hillsborough, claiming the hill would stand up to any safety examination – and their optimism has now paid off, with the latest news looking like Hill 16 might survive after all.

a model of Croke Park

yop

As much as I am I got involved in the "open it" "close it" debate, the stadium is a credit to the GAA and watching the match yesterday it was awe inspiring.
It is a shame that they are not going the full way around.
I npticed a lot of shadows yesterday, hopefully this will not effect the growth of the surface and cause patching.

thesecret7

intresting stuff. I heard from a GAA man on telly saying that eventually they would put a roof on it. As it stands it has to be one of the best stadiums in the world. The last 1/4 of the roof would really make it! I dont know how they could put a roof if there a section missing like that

Theatre of Dreams.

NightStrike

Probably would've used the money the government didn't give them because they wouldn't open up recently for the roof?

I don't like the idea of a standing section to be honest. Its good from a supporter's point of view but in a few years time it'll have to be changed due to health and safety and various other regulations probably. No standing in top of the range soccer grounds and I'm sure the same will follow suit with the GAA especially if Croker does ever open up

gudpony

Arnt they supposed to build a hotel behind the hill or somethin?

JazzyJ

The hotel is going on Jones' Road. Across from the Hogan Stand. As for the Hill not being covered - I'd say that the problem here is that the Dublin-Sligo railway line is running behind and is at a significant height. To build out further back would require the railway line to be moved (somewhere) and I'm sure all the commuters from west Dublin and beyond wouldn't be jumping around for joy at that prospect.

aDeener

I would not like to see the hill got rid of

Blackjack

5.5 years old thread dragged up.

Oldest I've seen....