PICARD or KIRK?

BigO

Kirk or Picard?

who do you prefer and why?

simu

I pick (geddit?) Picard.

What for anyway?

LastIrishMonkey

Picard for president

User45701

didnt patrick stewart say in a interview a few years back that he hates star trek and just does it for the money?

Its a very very hard question i cant answer now will answer later 2 nite

Woden

i prefare picard in general out of all the captains i think, then probably followd by sisko

data

bizmark

didnt patrick stewart say in a interview a few years back that he hates star trek and just does it for the money?

and thats why him and brent spiner spends alot of time trying to save star trek ...but keeps being shot down by the powers that be (god damn Berman)

satriani18

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bizmark

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=146657

Woden

threads merged

data

Asok

Picard Because he had the balls to admit he was bald not like willy there is a tribble on your head shatner

joePC

Picard

Why, 4 words,

Beem me up

****************LONG PAUSE*******************

Scotty.......

Classic

Thanks joePC

bizmark

ERRRR Picard couldnt of said that seeming its the totaly wrong ship/year and Kirk never EVER used that line in any ep or film

Woden

what about in relics? didn't happen there did it?

bizmark

im telling ya it never happened

Johnny Versace

Picard. Kirk is... sleazy.

Woden

i don't think kirk ever said those exact words either

davej

Yes you're right The words "Beam me up Scotty" have never been spoken from what i've read.

Just like Sherlock Homes never said "Elementary my dear watson".

btw I was never really a fan of those tng Conan Doyle related episodes...

davej

Johnny Versace

Anyway, scotty is from deep space nine.

Woden

come again?

simu

btw I was never really a fan of those tng Conan Doyle related episodes...

Same here and I didn't like the one with Mark Twain either. I found both characters annoying although the time travel and hologram escaping from holodeck stories were cool.

I also didn't like the way they often went to the "Ancient West" in the holodeck on TNG - why the obsession with the 19th century. They should have been more daring and picked more unusual times in history.


Back on topic, I never really liked the original series - although I'm glad it was made as it led to TNG. Kirk comes accross as a cheesy buffoon IMO. Meanwhile, Picard is educated in both literature and science, intelligent, classy, brave, commanding and so on - a real Renaissance man. An example: Remember the episode where he was kidnapped by Cardissians and they tortured him but still he refused to give in to their demands - that was very impressive. If I became a captain or a CEO or something like that, my leadership style would be influenced strongly by his.

Johnny Versace

Originally posted by simu
If I became a captain or a CEO or something like that, my leadership style would be influenced strongly by his.

Nerd: "Sorry Simu, CEO of Microsoft, we really do want to use Linux"

Simu: "Damn you to hell... Bill, fire the torpedos!"

Stark

I hated Kirk, the chauvinistic caveman. Picard like the previous poster said is a rennaissance man. I prefer Picard.

Woden

Originally posted by simu

An example: Remember the episode where he was kidnapped by Cardissians and they tortured him but still he refused to give in to their demands - that was very impressive

yeah but he was about to give in he really thought he could see that 1 extra or 1 less light, just made his big show at the end when he was being rescued

bizmark

Originally posted by Dataisgod
yeah but he was about to give in he really thought he could see that 1 extra or 1 less light, just made his big show at the end when he was being rescued

In all fairness to him he was being tortured for days if not weeks at that point he was told if he didn’t give the cardies what they wanted they would of used Crusher also that the enterprise-D was destroyed along with 1,000 of his crew then there was the added presser of 2-3 guards walking towards you as your being told "there coming to get you tell me now!! and you will live a good life"

And at the end he didn’t give in he might of though there was 5 lights but he never said it

Woden

he would have caved, in his mind he saw 5 lights its not like he even would have thought he was lying

Fuhrio

JANEWAY ALLLL THHHEEEE WAYYYYYYYY!!!!!!

Janeway: Tuvok, its an innocent species.................PHOTON TORPEDOS, FULL SPREAD, FIRE!!!!

bizmark

maybe but the end result doesnt change ......He didnt cave

Fabritzo

Jean Luck Pickard, sure he's great with the kids.

NeoSlicerZ

Picard, followed by Sisko tbh.

Kirk was kinda like a thug.

BigO

i placed this message up here as a mess,
to see how many trek heads on boards

and WOWZERS you kids know your stuff!!

keep up the good work, its very "useful"

Woden

banned

for reason please refer to the charter for this forum.

Regards

Data

Vader

I didnt want to reply to this thread cause the first thing that came to mind was the ep in the simpsons where homer goes to college, but since the troll has been identified and removed I cast my vote for Worf.

Worf???
The option was between Kirk and picard!!

I know but if nobody has any objections I'd like to widen the scope.

Granted you dont see Worf as captain that often, when worf serves in the Klingon civil war is he a captain?? I think he was, not sure, but if he was he did a great job. If he wasnt a captain well then he definitly showed his great tactical abilities in his role.

When Worf protects the cardassian convoy (trial episode) he made the tough decision, Kirk might have made it but Picard wouldnt. That showed brains and balls. A great combination!!

During the dominion war he was a captain for Martok and impresses him so much he is invited into his family.

In Star Trek:First contact he showes his stuff again.

He definitly is well suited to captaining Klingon ships and war ships (escort class) like the Defiant. However in that ep in TNG where they all lose their memories he really isnt suitable for the job. Hes a warrior, a fine tactical officer but for a Federation in peace time maybe he's not ideal.

As for the origional question of Kirk V Picard; as shown by Q Kirk is a young Picard. Picard is mature and sensible now but in his youth he was just like Kirk (in ToS).
Kirk however didnt become responsible enough with age (films), hence his colourfull disiplinary record. Theres a time for initiative and there is a time for taking orders or at least constructivly dismissing the orders like what Picard did in the first episode with ensign Ro or Data in the Romulan blockade not "To hell with you Im James Tiberious Kirk, you can kiss my ass" type stuff

Dont Ban Me

Originally posted by Fuhrio
JANEWAY ALLLL THHHEEEE WAYYYYYYYY!!!!!!

Janeway: Tuvok, its an innocent species.................PHOTON TORPEDOS, FULL SPREAD, FIRE!!!!

How can anybody ever say Janeway was a good captain, she wrecked my head from the very first episode she appeared in!!

without doubt the best captain is Sisko!! But only after he grows the goatie and goes bald!! Then he kicks ass, bring on the dominion!!

But out of Picard or Kirk, it has to be Jean-Luc, --- "Make It So"!! Class!

NeoSlicerZ

The last episdoes of DS9 were memorable, nothing like 600 Fed ships vs 1200 Dominion and Cardassian ships.

simu

he would have caved, in his mind he saw 5 lights its not like he even would have thought he was lying

I know but i thought that was good because it shows he's not superman - there's only so much anybody can take and he held out against it longer than most ppl
would.

Nerd: "Sorry Simu, CEO of Microsoft, we really do want to use Linux"

Simu: "Damn you to hell... Bill, fire the torpedos!"

Well the thing about Picard is that he's always willing to hear innovative ideas and to learn about new things - he'd probably already know a fair bit about the open source movement because he's generally a well-informed man and he'd probably consider said nerd's proposal to use linux. And I'd be the same as a CEO!

Actually, given how often the Enterprise gets haxored, they must be using Microsoft's Enterprise edition:)

As for the troll, nobody cares! If people are posting here, they're obviously not ashamed of liking the show nor do I see any reason who one would be.:rolleyes:

simu

Oops, i just noticed you said CEO of Microsoft above - in that case, I don't think a guy with ethical standards as high as those of picard would take that job!

Dont Ban Me

Originally posted by simu
Oops, i just noticed you said CEO of Microsoft above - in that case, I don't think a guy with ethical standards as high as those of picard would take that job!

Baa Dumm Tish!!!

Washout

neither.

Sisco was the best captain by far.

you put Sisco up against Picard or Kirk in qany situation and Sicko would prevail....but thats only me opinion....biased on the fact that DS9 was my fav star trek series