This is what SA + PA have to put up with

Hobbes

http://www.angelfire.com/ab5/efront/

Disgraceful. Looks like somethingawful may shut down too.

[update]
Site has been shut down, here is a mirror.
http://www.allfreak.com/bubba/e****.htm (it's the f word)

[This message has been edited by Hobbes (edited 09-03-2001).]

Hobbes

After reading some more, I take it back. Lowtax is efronts prime time byatch. Kind of cheapens SA.

If they fire the PennyArcade writer/artist I won't be reading the new one.

TwoShedsJackson

http://64.209.141.232/showthread.php?threadid=22594

Get a grip Hobbes.

Hobbes

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Castor Troy:
http://64.209.141.232/showthread.php?threadid=22594

Get a grip Hobbes.</font>

oops, ok just for the record. Somethingawful is actually banned by ADSubtract (The site is modified so that you can't view it without viewing adverts), so even URL's for them don't show up. So all I saw was "Get a grip Hobbes.".

Btw, while lowtax may be sincere about what he wants to do but the logs make him out to be just a puppet to keep the other sites in line.


[This message has been edited by Hobbes (edited 09-03-2001).]

Hobbes

Have you actually read the logs? Lowtax has confirmed they are real and now works for efront. Penny-Arcade have left efront because of it. It's one thing not to have the money to pay your sites but these guys were purposely not paying them and then telling them thier sites were useless or there was no money.

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">
sam 04/03/20 5:58 am *****

iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 5:59 am You know, if we get rid of all her L90 ads, and serve our ads, and tell her lawyer that SHE is in violation of the contract, and we are not, that will put some pressure on her

sam 04/03/20 6:00 am i know

sam 04/03/20 6:00 am thats what im doing

iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 6:00 am Anything in the contract say we have toserve L90 ads or let her admin her site?

sam 04/03/20 6:00 am and illl fire off a letter to them next week

sam 04/03/20 6:00 am no

iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 6:01 am Perfect.

iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 6:01 am You just acknowledge that you are behind in payments, but not in violation.

sam 04/03/20 6:01 am yes ill do that

sam 04/03/20 6:01 am and the payments are xyz

sam 04/03/20 6:02 am based on pageviews

sam 04/03/20 6:02 am

iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 6:02 am F her.

iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 6:03 am She wants to play hard ball, so give it to her.

sam 04/03/20 6:03 am yeah rape her and spit on her

sam 04/03/20 6:03 am oops

sam 04/03/20 6:03 am err f her

iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 6:03 am heh

sam 04/03/20 6:03 am should i kill the 120x90 small button too

iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 6:04 am Is that her account?

sam 04/03/20 6:04 am yes

iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 6:04 am If she is holding the L90 account hostage and she gets the checks from it, I would kill everyhing non-eFront.

sam 04/03/20 6:04 am ya

sam 04/03/20 6:05 am and kill her amazon stuff too

iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 6:05 am Even her Amazon crap.

iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 6:05 am Heh

iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 6:05 am Right, zero income.

sam 04/03/20 6:08 am ta-da i know php now ..

iBLAMEj00 04/03/20 6:08 am heh

sam 04/03/20 6:08 am i killed the pampers ad too i emailed l90 and told them we want a new contract for babynames.efront.com
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If they weren't in trouble before they sure as hell will be now.

Hobbes

See told you SA would probably shut down. If you read ****edcompany.com you'll see that efront have locked out all the people from thier sites and shut down the efront forums. So no Somethingawful.

I would be very surprised to see efront remain in business for more then a week.

Maximilian

Forgive my ignorance but what is this all about? Why is the name Lowtax so familiar?

Hobbes

lowtax is the guy who runs somethingawful.com and the guy who created JeffK.

eFront are the guys who do the online advertising for a lot of famous sites like bluesnews, somethingawful, penny-arcade (they left).

Basicallay eFront were screwing thier customers by faking hit counts on pages and the screwing the web sites by not paying them and stealing thier sites+domains and threatening with legal action.

One of the employees who recently got let go copied the ICQ logs of all the top guys and posted it.

If your wondering about penny-arcades recent cartoon, it's related to this.

Hobbes

*bump*

[updated]

- MAME.DK has shut down over it.
http://mamedk.cjb.net

- efront tried to get MPOG shut down but failed.

- Sam Jain is about to be investigated by the INS.

- Full 3MB logs are here. Everything.
http://www.retardmagnet.com/whoops/

- Overclocked.org have thier say about it.
http://www.overclocked.org/OC151c.htm


[This message has been edited by Hobbes (edited 10-03-2001).]