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Subliminal Messages

  • 10-03-2004 9:14am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,476 ✭✭✭


    Did anyone hear that guy on 98fm last night who records pulic speeches from the academy awards, news, politics etc and plays them backwards to find subliminal messages???

    im skeptical but it freaked me out.

    There was loads of good ones i cant remember but...

    In the new Diana tapes where she's talking about walking up the isle, looking for Camila in the crowd - played backwards it sounds extremely like she say's 'there's the bitch that chased us'

    Sean Penn after making his return to the bigtime- his academy award winning speech backwards was something like 'from death i have come back'

    And most weird was the war interview with Sadam where he refused to speak any english- one part played backwards says -in english- 'the west will take Iraq'

    If u havent heard it and just read this you'll prob just laugh but if you'd heard it its a bit more like 'wtf!'


Comments

  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 4,569 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ivan


    A recording which has a message embedded in it in such a way that when you play it backwards you hear the message, is NOT a subliminal message. It has no effect on your subconscious, you cant even make it out ffs.

    A subliminal message implies something that the conscious mind cant detect but the subconscious mind can. As such you find you want to do things you cant explain.

    Yes, I was first!

    W00t, go meh! :ninja:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,848 ✭✭✭✭Doctor J


    Remember the Judas Priest trial in the States about 10 years ago, two goons ahd shot themselves afer supposedly listening to Sad Wings Of Destiny non stop for over 12 hours? The lawyers for the prosecution found all sorts of messages about satan and killing yourself all over the record when played backwards in particular on the "Better By You, Better Than Me" track which was a cover anyway. Judas Priest's lawyers found clearest of all

    "I asked for a peppermint, I asked you to get it"

    among the backwards nonsense. Needless to say, the case was thrown out.

    One must consider that the human mouth can make only a finite number of noises, so all this backwards stuff is merely co-incidence, nothing more. How come no-one ever finds nice messages backwards? :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,476 ✭✭✭ShriekingSheet


    Ivan

    By the logics of communication

    if (IF) this is true

    the messages have been encoded subconcioulsy by the human mind

    therefore it can be assumed that a (not necissarily any) human mind can decode the message on an subconcious level


    and what does that spell kids................?

    SUBLIMINAL!

    so don't piss on my point just to try and show off your knowledge of the english language!

    grrrr!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,476 ✭✭✭ShriekingSheet


    Originally posted by Doctor J
    Remember the Judas Priest trial in the States about 10 years ago, two goons ahd shot themselves afer supposedly listening to Sad Wings Of Destiny non stop for over 12 hours?

    ha ha!

    Reminds me of something i read one of those freaks from slip knot said about the amount of airplay 'how you remind me' got!

    "...if i hear that f*%King song one more time Im going to climb a bell tower [with rifle] and start unloading at will..."

    it's obv bull**** but hearing the actual play backs was freaky


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,480 ✭✭✭projectmayhem


    speaking of slipknot, they have a song (called iowa.. it's 15mins long before you rush off to dl it) which at a certain part, if you play it backwards has messages in it which were recorded and put in during production... pretty nifty


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,658 ✭✭✭✭The Sweeper


    Did you ever notice how the complaints about teenaged brats' behaviour being inspired by hidden lyrics and subliminal messages stopped when vinyl went out of fashion?

    I'd like to see one of the US God Squad trying to blame the antics of their little darlings on subliminal messages hidden on a CD... Tisn't as easy twirling the disc anti-clockwise for a giggle with one of them...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,031 ✭✭✭El Marco


    Don't eat biscuits.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,553 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    Originally posted by Ivan
    A subliminal message implies something that the conscious mind cant detect but the subconscious mind can. As such you find you want to do things you cant explain.

    Correct


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,476 ✭✭✭ShriekingSheet


    Originally posted by El Marco
    Don't eat biscuits.

    :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 651 ✭✭✭Okie


    It might not be on the subliminal scale of things but has anyone heard of the syncing between Pink Floyd's "Dark Side Of The Moon" album and the movie "The Wizard Of Oz"

    It's all explained here

    The short version is this:- When you play the album with the movie on mute, one echoes the other with events on screen happening in sync with the sounds from the album.

    I think I remeber hearing other subliminal-type stories -

    - On the Oasis song "Do You Know What I Mean?" There is morse code at the beginning and it's meant to spell something out (not sure what)

    - On the same note I think it was a Pink Floyd album that was played backwards that revealed the message - "Congratulations. You have just found our hidden message" :)

    I should really have done more research before posting all this. I could be wrong on various counts.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,628 ✭✭✭Asok


    Smoke


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,198 ✭✭✭✭Crash


    The movie "Jade" would be the most famous of these, where they actually put frames in hinting who the killer is...interesting idea but the end was such an anti-climax because of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,608 ✭✭✭✭sceptre


    Originally posted by Okie
    The short version is this:- When you play the album with the movie on mute, one echoes the other with events on screen happening in sync with the sounds from the album.
    Apparently only works with the US NTSC-coded version (the site mentions that a specific release it "best" but doesn't mention the PAL speedup problem (the UK release will be 4% shorter))
    Originally posted by Minesajackdaniels
    Did you ever notice how the complaints about teenaged brats' behaviour being inspired by hidden lyrics and subliminal messages stopped when vinyl went out of fashion?
    Lots of people stopped listening to Black Sabbath and Judas Priest around the same time though


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 651 ✭✭✭Okie


    Originally posted by crash_000
    The movie "Jade" would be the most famous of these, where they actually put frames in hinting who the killer is...interesting idea but the end was such an anti-climax because of it.

    A bit like in Fight Club, with the references to subliminal messages in the movie and the addition of actual subliminal messages of Brad Pitt at certain points throughout the film (Along with a nasty piece of editing at the end! ;))
    A Schlong!! :eek: If I'm not wrong, heh.....rhyming's fun!!

    Still on the ould subliminal theme, The Young Ones used to have the odd random pictures thrown in here and there (I can remember a dove and a frog for some reason?)

    I always thought Bill Hicks' take on the "playing the records backwards" thing was great!

    "Can you hear it? Clear as day, Satan is Lord, Satan is Lord"

    "Dude, you're wrecing my f*ckin' needle man!"


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 4,569 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ivan


    Originally posted by ShriekingSheet
    Ivan

    By the logics of communication

    if (IF) this is true

    the messages have been encoded subconcioulsy by the human mind

    therefore it can be assumed that a (not necissarily any) human mind can decode the message on an subconcious level


    and what does that spell kids................?

    SUBLIMINAL!

    so don't piss on my point just to try and show off your knowledge of the english language!

    grrrr!

    I'm not actually sure what it is your trying to say, but I assure you, at no point was my intention to piss on your point just to try and show off my knowledge of the english language.

    I'm trying to point at that subliminal implies something you hear but dont understand, and as such it affects your subconscious mind or somesuch craziness.

    The fact that the track has to be played backwards means the only time you can hear it is when its played backwards and you consciously hear it?

    I'm not sure about you but I cant speak or understand people talking backwards, let alone when they are singing backwards.

    Make sense?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 425 ✭✭StephenInsane


    I watching MTV today, and there was an ad for something at 10pm. 10 was isolated on it's own and right beside it was a dog with a single large spot on it, which submitted the subliminal message "10 spot", i had to look twice to see where i picked up the message from. It was quite cleverly done, and i don't think many people would notice it. Either it was an accident, or the ad was done by some stoner designer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,148 ✭✭✭Ronan|Raven


    Originally posted by Asok
    Smoke


    Are ya smoking yet?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,476 ✭✭✭ShriekingSheet


    Originally posted by Ivan
    I'm not actually sure what it is your trying to say, but I assure you, at no point was my intention to piss on your point just to try and show off my knowledge of the english language.

    I'm trying to point at that subliminal implies something you hear but dont understand, and as such it affects your subconscious mind or somesuch craziness.

    The fact that the track has to be played backwards means the only time you can hear it is when its played backwards and you consciously hear it?

    I'm not sure about you but I cant speak or understand people talking backwards, let alone when they are singing backwards.

    Make sense?

    sorry i didnt really make myself clear!

    you're saying that in real time its not subliminal cos no one can understand it or be in any way affected by it right?

    Im saying that if human subconcious is capable of creating such a message than it is very possible that it could be understood by others - all on a subconcious level, in real time one off hearing - not played backwards or anything.

    anyway this is all assuming that there is some kind of truth to this :(

    glad you noticed the tongue-in-cheekness of my initial aggressive comments he he


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,821 ✭✭✭Skud


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,177 ✭✭✭oneweb


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 651 ✭✭✭Okie


    Originally posted by oneweb
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    Eggsactly!! :rolleyes:

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,628 ✭✭✭Asok


    Are ya smoking yet!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,177 ✭✭✭oneweb


    Originally posted by Okie
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