Jes-Computers

decritic

Hi, I’m going ordering a few items from Jes-computers for the first time. I saw somewhere before about the paypal option but can’t find it now. Basically I want to know if there is anything that should be flagged to me in advance as the terms are in German. Also which of the delivery options are best, and any idea how long delivery will take. Thanks

neokenzo

Just in case that you are using paypal for the first time, note that it takes about a month for you to activate your paypal account. Unless you have an online banking fo your credit card. What happens is paypal will charge you USD$1 in your credit card and there will be a code along with it. Once you get this code, only then can you use paypal.
Most ppl on this board just go for the wire transfer as it is cheaper.

decritic

Most ppl on this board just go for the wire transfer as it is cheaper.

Sorry for the ignorance how does this work?
I do have online banking with AIB if this helps

Eurorunner

Most ppl on this board just go for the wire transfer as it is cheaper.

Is this true? I would have thought it would have been more expensive?

maxheadroom

Originally posted by Eurorunner
Is this true? I would have thought it would have been more expensive?

Instead of going through it all again, follow the link in my sig. IIRC, AIB charge 75c and Ulster Bank charge 50c for the transfer - not sure about the other banks. Paypal will charge 3.5%

If using AIB, you're looking to make a "Paylink Euro" payment

Eurorunner

Thanks for that Maxheadroom - i had *assumed* that it would be much more expensive via the banks. I used to pay my irish credit card bill each month via a bank transfer from a german account and they would charge me a fortune.

Guess Irish banks dont have the exclusive rights on overcharging all of the time!

maxheadroom

The regulations have been in force since July 2003, so check and see if you're entitled to a refund...

Eurorunner

Well this would have been up until March 2003.
Thanks.

T-b0n3

sorry , i dont underdstand this much ,
are there any hidden charges if i just use my parents mastercard?
thats the only way ive ever paid for any thing on net :E

adam

Eurorunner

Its a german shop T-bone - they dont take credit cards which is often the case with german based setups.

Options: a). Paypal or b). bank transfer.

As maxheadroom has kindly pointed out above, bank transfer is the more economic way of doing it - although the process will probably take a little longer.

BigEejit

Originally posted by Eurorunner
Its a german shop T-bone - they dont take credit cards which is often the case with german based setups.

Indeed, if you look at ebay.de you'll see that most items are either bank transfer or COD .... it seems a bit nuts but I suppose charges for those services are quite low in Germany (I dont know for certain, anecdotal evidence)

neokenzo

Originally posted by T-b0n3
are there any hidden charges if i just use my parents mastercard?

Some companies would ask you to pay their merchant fees. X-Case does it, however with X-case id you use paypal, then you dont pay any extra fees. I think Jes ask you to pay for their paypal fees as well. Bear in mind not all companies does this though. Only certain ones.

decritic

If using AIB, you're looking to make a "Paylink Euro" payment [/B][/QUOTE]

How do i go about this, will this be ok for Jes, Can i do this online?

jow

Originally posted by decritic
If using AIB, you're looking to make a "Paylink Euro" payment

How do i go about this, will this be ok for Jes, Can i do this online?

Hi,
no, as far as I know you can't do this with privat account online banking.
You have to go to a branch and fill out a paper form manually.
It costs 75c and take four days to reach the german account (I am doing this all the time )

You can do this only online when you have business banking with AIB.

Hope that helps,
jow

decritic

Thanks and also the found previous link for Jes-computers. Do I order before I go to the bank to make the transfer? Or do I make transfer first? Surely order first? And is German post the way to go as apposed to GLS?

neokenzo

Originally posted by decritic
Thanks and also the found previous link for Jes-computers. Do I order before I go to the bank to make the transfer? Or do I make transfer first? Surely order first? And is German post the way to go as apposed to GLS?

Order first definitely. Besides, at least then you can include your purchar order number with the bank transfer so that Jes could pick it up faster. As for shipping, cant say I've used either of them but geneally from the board, most of them have complaints with GLS. German post may take longer though.

decritic

Originally posted by neokenzo
German post may take longer though.

How long should it take?

BloodBath

Hey I placed a large order with jescomputer 2 fridays ago. I got the Iban number and swiftcode number and made the wire transfer in A.I.B the following Monday.

It takes 4 days to clear. On thursday I got an e-mail from jes saying they had received payment and my order was now being dispatched yada yada yada.

I used GLS and have been tracking the order since last friday and according to the site it should arrive tomorrow. So 5 working days from when I ordered. Not too shabby.

I've heard loads of people complain about GLS but in the last few weeks i've used them 3 times and my orders have arrived within 3 days.

BloodBath

T-b0n3

I went to the bank today to wire the money , girl at desk said i'd need the switch number or id have to pay 20/30euro instead of the 75cent with the switch number. I showed her the email i recieved and she said it wasnt on there , did the rest of you get aniswicth number with the verafication email? or did you have to email them asking for it? or?

adam

mayto

would it be the swift number you need which is on the link here http://www.jes-computer.de/catalog/contact_us.php?osCsid=b71ad0d18ee02225de089a1ec3288466 . have not bought through bank before so i dont know much about it.

BloodBath

Thats the one. They don't send you the swiftcode for some strange reason.


BloodBath

T-b0n3

yes thats it , I emailed them and they gave it to me. Ill get my mum down to the bank today to sort it
all good

cheers ,adam

decritic

Lads, Thanks would never have got through all this with out ye, one last try! GLS or not??????????

T-b0n3

I went down to the bank today , paid up , hopfully get it delivered soon. I was unaware , and picked GLS , /me hopes thats okay :E

adam

aaf

Originally posted by decritic
Lads, Thanks would never have got through all this with out ye, one last try! GLS or not??????????

I placed two orders last week. One from JES and one from Overclockers. Overclockers was dispatched from their depot last wednesday and JES sent out their order to me last Friday. Both are being delivered by GLS but nothing has arrived so far. They are extremely slow at delivering and they NEVER answer the phone when you try to ring them. They suck big time!

BloodBath

Like I vsaid before I used GLS for 3 orders over the last couple of weeks and asll the orders arrived on time.

It took them 4 working days to deliver my jes order which I tracked from the GLS-germany site. The guy phoned me before he delivered too.


BloodBath

aaf

Originally posted by BloodBath
Like I vsaid before I used GLS for 3 orders over the last couple of weeks and asll the orders arrived on time.

It took them 4 working days to deliver my jes order which I tracked from the GLS-germany site. The guy phoned me before he delivered too.


BloodBath

Lucky you. As I explained already, I've been tracking my two separate orders. One arrived in GLS Ireland last Friday and the other arrived on Tuesday. I have had no communication from them at all and no attempted deliveries. Tried ringing them on multiple occasions over the last few days but they do not answer the phone. So, as they are based quite close to me, I drove there this afternoon. Picked up a package there and then and waited about 1 hour for the other to come back in a van undelivered. No apologies, comments or anything of the sort. The girl who dealt with me was nice but the company sucks. If I had the choice, I would not use them. I remember running into same problems with them when I ordered stuff from Amazon before Xmas. DHL are much the same in my experience although they do answer the phone!

kleefarr

Do these prices sound ok? Incude VAT.

P4 2.8G 533FSB €172
160G HD 7200rmp 8M €125
Acer Travelmate 244LCe Mobile Intel® Celeron, 2.6GHz processor €1399

L5

Ive ordered something from jes, and i now have the form from aib that i need to fill in. I have these details, and i need some help filling out the form.

Please pay to:
Raiffeisenbank Weissacher Tal eG
Account: 46 921 010
BLZ: 602 618 18
IBAN:DE97602618180046921010
Swift Code: GENODES1RWT
JES Computer
Sulzbacherstrasse 142
71522 Backnang
Germany
Tel: 07191-32260
Fax: 07191-3226-29
Email:shop@jes-computer.de


I need to fill out

beneficiary name: I presume its JES Computer ?
beneficiary address:Sulzbacherstrasse 142 ,71522 Backnang ,Germany
beneficiary account no: Do i use the IBAN number here?
beneficiary swift code: GENODES1RWT i think
beneficiary bank: im not sure here, is it "Raiffeisenbank"
beneficiary bank address: Is the address in the above information
beneficiary bank sort code: is the sort code given?


If anyone could help me id be very grateful.
Thanks

maxheadroom

http://matrix.netsoc.tcd.ie/~maxhead/aib-jes.jpg

This is the form I filled out - should be helpful

L5

Thats excellent, thanks a lot

TKK

I ordered from Komplett on Friday and on Monday evening it shipped with GLS....today at 1pm I got a phonecall asking if I was at home to receive my package....good service if you ask me....

aaf

Originally posted by TKK
I ordered from Komplett on Friday and on Monday evening it shipped with GLS....today at 1pm I got a phonecall asking if I was at home to receive my package....good service if you ask me....

Over the past 6 months, I've placed 3 separate orders that were due to be delivered by GLS. I've had to collect all 3! They never rang me or attempted delivery. I tracked all 3 packages on the net and found that they were just being kept in their warehouse. For more than a week! The thing that angers me most though is that they do not answer the phone when you ring. I've tried to ring that company at least 20 times over the past 6 months and the phone has never been answered.

decritic

Hey all,

Just realised that we have NO choice when we order from jes-computer as all deliveries outside Germany are sent via GLS, so by clicking the German post option your actually paying extra for a service that’s not available. Of course I only noticed this after I ordered my parts and obviously didn’t opt for the GLS delivery option but that’s what I’m getting. Ah well

http://www.jes-computer.de/catalog/shipping.php?osCsid=7e34add711e99ecf348816a4d1681166


translated (scroll to bottom)

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.jes-computer.de/&prev=/search%3Fq%3Djes%2Bcomputer%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8

decritic

Sorry,

For the translated version you have to go into the webshop, then shipping and returns then scroll down to the dottom

Michelangelo

very helpful thread.

Just one question, does anyone know if for Bank Of Ireland if the same details as on the AIB are enough or do I require more details than that? Also, what is the name of the form in the Bank Of Ireland?

Cheers. Just placed a fairly big(for my standards) order and will be going to the Bank on Monday.

Michelangelo

bump

tuxy

another thing you should know before you order dont be suprised if your order takes a few weeks to get to you gls are very bad

Michelangelo

I have ordered everything using gls and its been perfect. Get everything in 3 days.

T-b0n3

Ive ordered via GLS but nothing yet , after 5 day me thinks.

On GLS-Germany site , on my tracking info I get ;

1020 16.03.2004 :56 NIF-Eingang 9826
1023 16.03.2004 :56 NIF-Ausgang 9826
1001 12.03.2004 21:41 ZUP-Durchlauf 4
5 10.03.2004 0:00 DFUE Eingang Grosskunde 7000

I put it in translater and got;

1020 16.03.2004:56 NIF entrance 9826 1023 16.03.2004:56 NIF exit 9826 1001 12.03.2004 21:41 ZUP run 4 5 10.03.2004 0:00 telecommunications entrance big customer 7000


Makes no sense to me :E
Any ideas?


adam

aaf

Originally posted by T-b0n3
Ive ordered via GLS but nothing yet , after 5 day me thinks.

On GLS-Germany site , on my tracking info I get ;

1020 16.03.2004 :56 NIF-Eingang 9826
1023 16.03.2004 :56 NIF-Ausgang 9826
1001 12.03.2004 21:41 ZUP-Durchlauf 4
5 10.03.2004 0:00 DFUE Eingang Grosskunde 7000

I put it in translater and got;

1020 16.03.2004:56 NIF entrance 9826 1023 16.03.2004:56 NIF exit 9826 1001 12.03.2004 21:41 ZUP run 4 5 10.03.2004 0:00 telecommunications entrance big customer 7000


Makes no sense to me :E
Any ideas?


adam

Track it through the http://www.gls-ireland.com site. Chances are it's just sitting in the GLS warehouse in Blanchardstown. If you live anywhere near Blanchardstown, I would advise collecting the packages yourself if you want it before the weekend. I have found GLS to be a terrible company.

Michelangelo

I went down the bank on Tuesday and paid jes computer with the wire transfer thing and I have not received any "we received your payment thing".

How long does it take?

Col_Loki

Yea GLS are pretty crappy TBH, that said i recieved my orders within 5-7 days which isint all that bad i suppose.

TheC0CK

Want to order parts from Jes as they look great and appear cheap compared to other places.

How long does it take for the money to go through?

T-b0n3

4-5 days I think.
But delivery is taking its time , I'm still waiting. Been bout 10+ days I think.

adam